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   Sharlee01posted 5 years ago

   Democrats and media have told multiple mistruths about the response by the Trump administration to the coronavirus outbreak. They daily make false claimed that Trump in regards to the president's statements as well as the biggest out and out lie that he cut the CDC when the budget was actually increased. Democrats including candidate Joe Biden claimed that president Trump was muzzling scientists from talking about the virus response. Even as those same scientists like Dr. Anthony Fauci were very visible giving advice and information at most of the presidents in press conferences. The president clearly is listening to all involved in the Coronavirus task force and has shown them great respect.
   
   Perhaps one of the biggest lies the media has pushed was saying that President Donald Trump had called the virus a hoax. When in fact he said no such thing. What he actually said was the media lies about his response, like the ones I just mentioned in the prior paragraph, were a “hoax.”
   
   However, there was another story that has gotten a lot of coverage by the media, a very damaging story that should have been debunked by media earlier than yesterday.  That misleading story claimed that the Trump administration eliminated the “pandemic team” from the NSC in 2018.
   
   The  Washington Post, who pushed the claim in an opinion piece on Friday by Elizabeth Cameron, who ran the office under President Obama.
   
   These untruths were made on the  Senate floor ---   in remarks from the Senate floor on Feb. 24, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer claimed the Trump administration made “drastic cuts to the global health division at CDC,” before saying, “In 2018, CDC was forced to reduce the number of countries it operated in from 49 to 10.”
   
   Three days later, Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut made a similar claim on Twitter — though he used slightly different figures.
   
   “President Obama set up anti-pandemic programs in 47 vulnerable countries, as a way to protect against something just like Coronavirus breaking out across the world,” Murphy wrote. “Experts begged Trump to keep them open. He closed 37 of them.”
   
   Murphy’s tweet appeared to catch the attention of Joy Behar, co-host of ABC’s “The View,” who made the same claim on the daytime talk show March 9.
   
   The truth? The funding actually went up under the Trump administration. The programs increased working not just in 47 countries, but 60, according to the CDC.
   
   Those amounts went up again in the fiscal year 2020, when the CDC was awarded $183 million for global public health protection, overall, and $125 million specifically for its global health security efforts. For the fiscal year 2021, President Donald Trump has requested that CDC funding for global disease detection and other programs be increased further — to $225 million total, with $175 million going directly to global health security.
   
   With its current funding, Bartee said, the CDC is actually working in “more than 60 countries” — not 10 — to address the threat of global infectious diseases and outbreaks.
   
   Let's look at the claim by media that the NSC office was dissolved? That’s actually not true either... According to Tim Morrison, the former senior director for counterproliferation and biodefense on the National Security Council. The Washington Post let him counter the prior opinion article and he did, saying, “No, the White House didn’t ‘dissolve’ its pandemic response office. I was there.
   
   Much of what we are hearing from the media and our government officials are mistruths. Daily these fake stories are being retracted. But, do we hear the retractions or even care anymore about being fed up fake news?  It is obvious many don't. They get a piece of dirt and run with it.
   
   These past weeks we have heard all kinds of reports on mistakes the president has made is making. Anyone taken the time to look at the facts? What is actually being done to help curb the virus and help those that are most affected by it?  This president is leaving no stone unturned.  Yes, it's very clear many dislike Trump. However, give credit where it is due. Get past your nitpicking and have a long look at what is being done in a very bad situation. Have a long look at what the Democrats are trying to portrait with their blatantly misleading information. They are clearly disgustingly politicking on a horrendous National crisis.  So, clearly, anyone with half a brain should be able to see that. They are out each and every day spreading lies... To me this is inexcusable. Just my opinion, and I have come to it simply by sitting back and witnessing a disgusting display portrayed the media, and yes our own Government officials.
   
   https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/false … emic-work/
   
   https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news … nse-office
   

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      So you believe Tim Morrison now, but not when he testified against Trump during the House Impeachment inquiry?  Make up your mind. You stated his testimony was simply hearsay and his opinion didn't you? What is it now?

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         Sharlee01posted 5 years agoin reply to this

         His testimony at the inquiry hearing was secondhand. His statement in regards to Trump cutting funds and programs was due to firsthand knowledge due to his place in the biodefence agency. he has direct information on the budget and if any cuts were made.
         
         "Morrison explained that "one such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense."
         
         He added, "It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled."
         
         I would not have posted this thread unless I could back it up with facts. The WAPO had to put out as always a retraction on the story. This is a problem, many do not ever
         become aware of fake misrepresented stories. I am pointing out this is one such fake misrepresentation of facts, there are many...
         
         WAPO listed Trump saying a vaccine would be out soon. He said this on Feb 25th. Vaccination is being tested today March 17. Hopefully, you see the problem, what the media is doing.
         
         They are misrepresenting truth by attempting to change the context of most of what Trump says.  Come away from the dark side. My God this is so obvious.

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            Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Morrison_(presidential_advisor)
            
            
            There's nothing mentioned in this wikipedia link which shows Morrison had anything to do with the CDC or other health organisation. Political Science is his strong suit, so why do you trust his opinion now, and didn't when he listened in on the infamous Ukraine call. A bit hypocritical  to my way of thinking.
            
            You didn't trust him when you needed to, but you do now he's saying something you want to hear. Got it! 
            
            "My god, this so obvious." 

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               Sharlee01posted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Randy, I never made any form of comment stating I did not trust Tim Morrison. I did state he was giving an opinion-oriented when questioned at the impeachment hearings. He actually was pretty helpful to the president's case. I have no reason not to think any of the witnesses were not truthful with their opinions. I just felt thee were few facts revealed in the testimonies given.
               
               Tim Morrison worked for the National Security Council (NSC) in the biodefense sector. Morrison was the director for counterproliferation and biodefense on the NSC, and then he was briefly President Trump's top US adviser on Russia and Europe to the National Security Council before leaving to join the Hudson Institute as a senior fellow.  The NSC directorate for global health and security and bio-defense. They work hand and hand with the CDC on the pandemic issues. This was part of his job. he was well aware of what funding was being increased or decreased. My comment has nothing to do with what I believe to be true or not true. I just presented facts. It's up to you to form your own opinion on what I presented. Although his statement would be hard to dispute, he certainly is no fan of the President.
               
               https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin … iodefenses
               
               https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/17/co … odefenses/

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                  Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  "Although his statement would be hard to dispute, he certainly is no fan of the President."
                  
                  Why do you say this, Shar?

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                     Sharlee01posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Did you listen to his testimony? He was certainly able to provide his opinion in regards to the president's handling of Ukraine, holding the aid, not to mention what he thought about the Zelinsky phone call. Plus, as I said he resigned... Hey, just my opinion, he was no fan of Trump.

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                        Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Yep, but you didn't believe him then. Remember, "hearsay and opinion?"
                        
                        Don't get me wrong, I'm not disagreeing with what he said in either instance. But you seem to like the latter instance a lot more than his testimony before the House Inquiry. No?

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                           Sharlee01posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Randy, you are driving me crazy. LOL  You provoked me to listen to his testimony.OK. first, he seemed bored to be there, and he was very careful of what he said, how he answered questions. He seemed to be honest and gave his opinion without hesitating. He did not seem to add much to the proceedings.
                           
                           You just won't believe that I had hoped as you had that the trail would have called any and all witnesses to get to the truth of the matter. But, as in all court cases, one has to look at what was presented, Not enough information was presented. That trail was over before it started. It was not done right from the start.

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         GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         What about the Democrat and MSM claims that Pres. Trump's budget cuts reduced the CDC's global offices from 49 countries to 10 countries, do you think that is an accurate claim after reading Sharlee's factcheck.org link?
         
         The FactCheck article was dated 3/12, yet when I looked around to verify it today, 3/17, the MSM sources were still making the claim. Who do you think is right—FactCheck and CDC spokespeople, or The NYT?
         
         GA

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      GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      [io]Oh snap![.i] I feel like a rookie.
      
      I had heard the CDC closure claims, but I never looked into them. Meaning that by my inaction I had accepted them.
      
      Now, since the claims are still being promoted in MSM sources, I wonder if I have to suspect factcheck.org's reporting. What to do, what to do'
      
      Thanks for the links and a good comment.
      
      GA

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         GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Oh snap! I feel like a rookie.
         
         I had heard the CDC closure claims, but I never looked into them. Meaning that by my inaction I had accepted them.
         
         Now, since the claims are still being promoted in MSM sources, I wonder if I have to suspect factcheck.org's reporting. What to do, what to do'
         
         Thanks for the links and a good comment.
         
         ps. I did look around a bit, and factcheck's reporting and other points in your comment appear to be correct.
         
         GA

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            Sharlee01posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, MSM is still glibly promoting the false story, as well as a few other network news stations. It's also been ping-ponged around every avenue of social media as yet another "Trump crime that is ruining our nation".  This frustrates me, and at the same time disgusts me. When I hear or see a report that claims, Trump said this or did that I think to myself, this sounds crazy. It usually is, and more times than not turns it turns out to be a statement the media has chewed up and spit out, out of context. Sometimes it turns out to just be a great big lie. Like the very one, we are discussing. Where do we go from here when many take everything they hear at face value? 
            
            https://freebeacon.com/media/media-demo … ic-office/
            
            https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/17/co … odefenses/

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               Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Federalist_(website)
               
               https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washi … ree_Beacon
               
               You wouldn't choose Right wing conservative sites to back up your arguments would you, Shar? 

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                  blueheronposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  https://www.zerohedge.com/political/wik … -operation

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                     Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

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