Why Joe Biden = un.fit. !

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  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    There are many reasons why Joe Biden should be no where near the Presidency of the United States of America, but the most looming is his connection to China and his refusal to say one word again that corrupt, greedy regime which is determined to make itself powerful by any and all means available.

    Really, people need to educate themselves regarding the evils and threats that CHINA is inflicting in many countries around the world.

    JOE, STEP AWAY FROM CHINA!

    1. crankalicious profile image94
      crankaliciousposted 11 months agoin reply to this
      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
        Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        ooooh ...  convincing!

      2. Ken Burgess profile image88
        Ken Burgessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Come on Crank... Biden is not what you want to hang your hopes on:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mhZdsOYvZI

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8TkDorYCIc

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRmlcEBAiIs

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkKP0w0MD8w


        What is the difference between Republicans, who work for the best interests of corporations and banks over the people... and Democrats that sell out to the corporations, banks, and foreign nations?

        Pelosi, Biden, Clinton, etc. they work for the same corporations, they work for the same banks, they sell out America and Americans.

        Until your party is dominated by people like AOC, it will be no different than the Republicans, it never will be, until the needed "revolution" occurs WITHIN the Democratic Party first.

        For the last 30 years it hasn't mattered whether it was Democrats or Republicans that controlled DC... new wars began, industries continued to flee to foreign lands, new laws got passed that made life harder for working Americans, not easier, while the corporations got richer, got bailed out, got fat on government spending.

        1. crankalicious profile image94
          crankaliciousposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Okay, Ken, I feel like you deserve a response.

          You're kind of preaching to the choir here. Among my group of liberal friends, I posited this very idea. I basically said that I was considering voting for Trump so that the DNC would wake up and change. I hate the DNC, btw. I suggested that maybe it was going to take another Trump win to move the Democrats into the direction I want - which is to put up a candidate with ideas - to stand for something. Right now, the DNC elects their candidates with polling. They basically try to figure out the best milquetoast candidate they can find. Frankly, if they run on a platform of ideas and lose, I'm fine with that. But have some ideas. Maybe they need Roe v. Wade to be overturned to wake up.

          Another friend of mine, who's also liberal, discussed the same idea. So there are more than a few of us who think this way and understand what's going on.

          However, I just can't stomach Trump. He's an imbecile. He talks like an imbecile. He thinks like one. The GOP has been promoting stupidity and insulting intelligence for the last twenty years and it's just getting worse. I guess if I have to boil it down, I just have to support a candidate based on some basic principles:

          1. Understand and support scientific inquiry
          2. Believes in education and learning
          3. Supports a woman's right to choose

          I'll be honest, if you are going to vote for Trump in hopes that the system breaks and we start seeing a battle of ideas, I can support that. I'm just a little worried that Trump will break the system and we'll be unable to put it back together. He seems to think he's a dictator. He doesn't respect democracy. He's a blowhard and an embarrassment. He promotes conspiracies and seems happy to push Russian disinformation. It's quite scary. I mean, the way he's belittling people who wear masks should be enough for every person in this country to turn against him. It's hard to believe wearing a mask is an actual debate, but Trump has made it one. That is pure idiocy.

          That said, and I've told people this, if Trump loses, we could very well see President Alex Jones in four years. I'm as frustrated as anyone that the DNC simply doesn't have any ideas. The don't run on ideas any longer. They run on stats.

          And oh, btw, I was literally screaming at somebody the other day that I thought it was insanity that the DNC allowed Bill Clinton to speak at the convention. Aren't we in the middle of #metoo? Oh wait, maybe that's just for other people.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image88
            Ken Burgessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            Here is how I think it plays out...

            If Trump wins, his base is happy, the Pendulum is allowed to swing to the Right without the incessant interference from the opposing factions that we have seen the last 4 years.

            During the next four years, the Democrats (including the left-wing media, non-profit political entities, etc.)  turn inward and a battle ensues, and the likes of Pelosi, Waters, Schumer, Biden, Clinton, all the old corrupt cronies are given the boot.

            Democratic incumbents, such as Chuck Schumer, Michael Bennet, Brian Schatz, and possibly Kamala Harris lose tough primary challenges from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Andrew Romanoff, Tulsi Gabbard, and Ro Khanna respectively.  Others like Andrew Yang and Joe Kennedy might also become more prominent within the Party.

            And then the Pendulum swings back, with the people I note above taking the reigns of leadership in the Party, and probably a few new faces as well.

            Maybe, possibly, they will remain true to the people and not sell their votes out to the corporations and banks, and maybe some real representative governing occurs on behalf of the people...

            This doesn't happen with a Trump loss. 

            I don't think your Alex Jones theory becomes the next step... but I also doubt any real change emanates from the Democrats with a Pelosi, Schumer, Biden leadership.  Same old crony corruption continues.

            1. crankalicious profile image94
              crankaliciousposted 11 months agoin reply to this

              The question here then is how are politicians NOT able to sell out to corporations given the reliance on money in our political system? No matter who you are, but particularly in Congress, it takes millions and millions of dollars to get elected or re-elected. How do you fund that without being a puppet of somebody or accused of it certainly?

              There's not enough transparency in how this money flows, so don't the American people deserve to know who funds who?

              And who is responsible for this current predicament?

              And you're completely right. A Biden win just signals to the DNC that their wimpy existence in the center of the political landscape is working. A Biden win is also going to signal to them that milquetoast white male candidates who poll well are the way to go.

              And quite frankly, what is our obsession with electing old, white men who are a couple of steps away from having their car keys taken away? That goes for Trump and Biden.

              1. Ken Burgess profile image88
                Ken Burgessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                I likely will have a better answer for you later, but for now consider this.

                Tulsi Gabbard stood on her principles, destroyed Harris in the debates, and hammered away at the Military Complex and our efforts to overthrow foreign nations.

                They wheeled out Clinton to character assassinate her, say she was colluding with Russians (their favorite fallback slander) and CNN and the MSM gang picked up the messaging and ran with it.

                They also have done more to slander and belittle AOC than anything the "Right Wing Media" has done to date.

                And who is running Biden's campaign today?
                Podesta, who ran Clinton's campaign.

                So long as they retain power in the Democratic Party, there will be no progress, only lip service and lies.

                1. crankalicious profile image94
                  crankaliciousposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  Just focusing on AOC, I haven't seen or heard what you're describing. All I've seen is that she drives the Right apoplectic with rage and charges of socialism.

                  Every bad thing the right has to say about the left seems to start with AOC and the squad - how they're taking over. How they're going to make us all socialists.

                  The DNC power structure perceives that if the party goes in AOC's direction, they'll never win another election because it will drive independents to the Right.

                  1. Ken Burgess profile image88
                    Ken Burgessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                    In my search for evidence of my position I found things like:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9DAtr4N76U

                    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics … index.html

                    However I also found evidence that Fox and other "right leaning" outlets are attacking AOC as well.

                    So you are correct, AOC is roundly being attacked... on all sides.

                    I'm going to have to do some more research on her positions and what she is supporting, if both MSM extremes are against her, and Pelosi is ripping her, she might be worth supporting.

                2. Valeant profile image87
                  Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

                  You keep making this claim that Podesta is running Biden's campaign today.  Can you prove that in any way or is that just another of your conspiracy theories?

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 11 months ago

    Guys guys, what about Joe's connections to China ... or you don't speculate.?

    1. crankalicious profile image94
      crankaliciousposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      What about the potentially lucrative trademark protections granted to Ivanka Trump while she worked as a U.S. official that could end up making her billions of dollars?

      1. Ken Burgess profile image88
        Ken Burgessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        So... what are we saying here... we have a choice between a life long DC hack who is overly corrupt and funneling foreign funds through his family.

        And a famous billionaire celebrity (and current President) that is now funneling foreign funds through his family.

        Wow... so they are both sell outs...

        Only if Trump really has sold out to China, why is he pursuing this trade war against them, and forming a "NATO" like alliance with India, Japan and Australia to protect against Chinese aggression in that region of the world?

        1. crankalicious profile image94
          crankaliciousposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          The thing about Ivanka wasn't a response to you, Ken. Though it does raise the issue of just how far Trump's policies will go. Trump has been talking a good game with China, but it's unclear what practical accomplishment it's had.

          I've stated that, in general, I agree with a hard line on China. I think Trump has been mostly bluster, but I give him points for at least changing the discussion some.

          That said, our current economic relationship with China is the product of policies practiced by both Republicans and Democrats. In fact, the whole globalization effort has been a lot more Republican than Democrat until quite recently.

          I'm not convinced that most average Republicans really grasp why they have a sudden opposition to China.

          And again, changing our relationship with China is a very hard sell to most Americans, who really like cheap electronics. And cheap underwear. And cheap other stuff. I think when that relationship changes and prices go up on a lot of goods, many Americans won't care that much that there are more American jobs if they're paying 3x for their iPhone.

          This is a discussion I am not sure most Americans are capable of having. In order to truly battle China economically, we have to face the fact that the cost of many goods will rise and we will have to sacrifice because of it. My gut tells me most Americans will say no to that sacrifice.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image88
            Ken Burgessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

            It has been enough of both, from Nixon to Clinton, by the time it got to Bush Jr. and Obama's Presidencies the time to address it had come, and both chose not to deal with it.




            There are more Chinese billionaires than Americans now, there are more Chinese Middle Class than there are American now.  Even the average unaware American can understand that everything "Made in China" means less jobs and lower wages.

            And as the Chinese grow in economic might, things will continue to become more expensive "Made in China" or not.

            Wait until the International bodies in conjunction with China decide to do away with the world's reserve being the dollar.

            You think you are seeing anarchy in America now?

            This is an economic wonderland of opportunity we are living in today compared to what things will look like when the dollar is disconnected from its World Reserve status.

    2. Valeant profile image87
      Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

      First I'd rather get Russia out of our government.  Considering Hunter Biden never accepted a dime from China, I'm not overly concerned there.  But I know that Trump accepted assistance from Russia in 2016 as a fact.  I also know Trump begged China to help him broker a trade deal to help him in his re-election.  Not something I want our leader to be doing, begging China for anything.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image88
        Ken Burgessposted 11 months agoin reply to this

        Except that... he did... well, his firm did.

        https://www.westernjournal.com/dick-mor … ion-china/

        https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-we-kn … 1570181403

        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- … SKBN1WI2HK

        Technically it was his Firm, not him, just like technically he was sitting on a Board for a Ukraine power company and not directly receiving funds,

        1. Valeant profile image87
          Valeantposted 11 months agoin reply to this

          Trump says Hunter Biden “walk[ed] out of China with $1.5 billion in a fund.” Biden’s attorney dismissed that figure, saying “BHR was capitalized with approximately $4.2 million USD from various sources, not $1.5 billion.” The $1.5 billion figure refers to the size of the funds raised for investments.

          Hunter Biden did serve on BHR’s original board of directors while his father was vice president, but Mesires told the Washington Post that Biden was on the board of the advisory firm that did not directly invest, but instead advised those who did.

          Mesires told us, “Hunter has not received any return on his investment or compensation on account of his position on the board of directors.”

          A BHR representative told the New Yorker in July that although Hunter Biden served on the board, he was not a signatory to the BHR deal, and that the deal wasn’t with Rosemont Seneca Partners, but rather with a holding company, established solely by Archer.

          So, my claim that he, personally, has not accepted a dime from China is accurate.

          Any luck finding the proof that Podesta is running Biden's campaign?

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
    Kathryn L Hillposted 10 months ago

    ,,, well, Thanks, all!  Great Info! Great speculating! :-)

 
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