The Voice Of The People

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   Sharlee01posted 2 years ago

   
   
   Harriet Hageman
   GOP
   113,025   
   66.3%
   
   Liz Cheney*
   GOP
   49,316   
   28.9%
   
   It is clear that the people of Wyoming early felt Liz did not speak for them. She was sent to Washington to give the people of Wyoming a voice. She decided to make her voice heard above the people she was sent to represent. The numbers speak loudly, she lost badly.
   
   Clearly, the people of Wyoming were heard.
   
   I am not questioning Cheney's views or her ideologies, she has the right to her views, her ideologies. So, no need to go into a long dragged-out explanation in defense of her views. I completely believe she has every right to her views, and her ideologies.
   
   My point --- Should a representative voted in by the people, represent the people that sent them to Washington, their views, their ideologies, or should a representative represent their own personal views, and idelogies, putting them above their constituents?

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      Credence2posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, the representative should represent the majority of the people who sent him or her.
      
      But her point of standing for rule of law over attempted insurrection and imposed tyranny makes her the real hero in this story
      
      With the mindset in a place like Wyoming, I would probably find the moon more hospitable. I am glad they they remain the least populated state and that they all keep to themselves.

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         GA Andersonposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         I bet they are glad too. That seems to be their point. You guys agree, you should have beers sometimes.
         
         GA

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            Credence2posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Yeah, GA , we agree on the basic principles of representation and such. While I am disappointed with the outcome, I live with it.
            
            Just glad that I don't live there....

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         Sharlee01posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Wait a minute, the people of Wyoming are very much within their right to have their own ideas, views, and ideologies. They vote, and their voices were heard. Do we not need to be fair?
         
         I can always give a person credit for standing their own personal ground. She has made her feelings very clear about Jan 6th, that is also her right. We as Americans have earned the freedom of free speech, and freedom to promote our views. I can give her credit for standing up for what she believes, she has given up a lot to do just that. I can applaud her for sticking to her guns.  The people were allowed to speak in the end. This is the American way.

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            Credence2posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Wait a minute, the people of Wyoming are very much within their right to have their own ideas, views, and ideologies. They vote, and their voices were heard. Do we not need to be fair?
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            That is correct, but their viewpoints are well outside of my own, thus I could not live there comfortably.

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      GA Andersonposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Years ago, (here), there were some good discussions about that question. My answer is that a representative is expected to frame their decisions around the 'voice' of the people they represent. Similar to the military's view on orders—unlawful ones should not be followed, a representative should not be expected to follow unrealistic, or uninformed constituent 'orders.'
      
      The reverse of your question would be what should a representative do when they can't, (for whatever reason), do what their constituents want? Resign or fight for their voters' best interest if they think their voters are wrong?
      
      GA

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         Sharlee01posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         I believe she took the route that her conscience lead her, She decided to make her voice heard above the people she was sent to represent.
         I think it fair that she fought for votes while not concealing her view. She left it up to the people in the end. She totally shared her honest views with the people of Wyoming, she was very transparent.  For this, she earns my respect.

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      Fayetteville Fayeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Representatives take an oath to the Constitution not to individual voters.
      No, how can she be bound to represent the constituents that are not in touch with reality? Election deniers and conspiracy theorists?
      She was booted because she dared to have the courage to say out loud what all of her colleagues were saying behind closed doors.  Good for her, she stood on her principles. She would have won by a landslide if she would have just embraced the big lie.
      She wouldn't conform and she was cast out. That's what you get when you don't go along with the group think. She's been kicked out of the tribe but I think she's better for it.
      To your point, no representative should ever advance illogical, irrational ideologies of their constituents. That's an awfully slippery slope in some places. Two towns over from me is a town called Harrison which is a KKK hotbed. I don't want our Representatives supporting their ideologies.

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         Sharlee01posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Well as a rule when I vote, I vote for someone that will be my voice in Washington.  I hold them to their campaign promises, and the ideologies they sold me on. I don't appreciate a politician that takes a left turn and does not keep their word.
         
         Cheney does stand out, she was pretty much doing what she was sent to do until she took a stand on Trump. This was a unique situation. So, I give her a pass. Not to say I agree with her, because I don't feel she has conducted herself as nonbiased in the Jan 6 hearings.  However, she has totally shared her views with the people of Wyoming, she was very transparent in her thoughts on the 2020 election.  For this, she earns my respect.

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         wildernessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         To your point, no representative should ever advance illogical, irrational ideologies of their constituents. "
         
         Problem is determining what is "illogical, irrational ideologies".  When it comes down to the bottom line it seems that anyone that does not agree with my and my ideologies is "illogical and irrational".  At least that's what I see in most discussions - either agree with my own illogical and irrational ideologies or you are wrong and likely evil to boot.

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            Fayetteville Fayeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Do you believe that those running for elected positions should campaign on claims of a rigged 2020 election when there is no evidence of such?  At this point, it seems more than illogical or irrational. It's detached from reality.
            
            At this point we could write a book about the bizarre statements of MAGA candidates who faced off in the primaries this year.  From Satan worship to QAnon theories and all things in between

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