The Open Border Is An Invite To Terrorist's

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   Sharlee01posted 5 months ago

   
   
   Border Patrol arrests of individuals on terror watchlist along southern border
   In between ports of entry (fiscal year 2017 to fiscal year 2023).
   https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-mexico- … errorists/
   
   2017 - 2
   2018 - 6
   2019 - 0
   2020 - 3 = 11
   2021 - 15
   2022 - 98
   2023 - 151   thus far... 264
   
   A Couple of Questions --- What do these stats tell you?
   Do the historic numbers concern you?
   Do you feel we will see a major Terrorist attack on US soil?
   Does it concern you that many more entered the US as mere gotaways?
   Can you dance around these stats, and justify the increase?

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      tsmogposted 5 months agoin reply to this

      Good questions! Thanks for the recommended article, Sharlee. I skimmed stopping here and there to read. One thing that caught my attention with one graphic was for 2022 & 2023 that most terror watchlist hits are at the northern border. 2023 stood out. Going back to 2017 three of the five years it was the same coming at the northern border. That gives me pause as to why.
      
      One could play the numbers game doing research to get the percentage per year of total apprehensions vs. those caught on the watch list to get another perspective, yet not needed to understand there is a rising trend.
      
      Yes, the number concern me as it should anyone. I would have to flip a coin about a terrorist attack on our soil from someone who came across the border.
      
      From a peek here and there the bulk of terror attacks in the US is either unafilliated, the Earth Liberation Front, Animal Liberation Front, or anti-abortion crowd.  That is for the years of 1970 - 2013. I couldn't find anything more recent. I did find a source showing terrorist attacks beginning with 1835 - Jan, 2023 that I skimmed.
      
      Terrorist Attacks in the U.S Between 1970 and 2013:Data from the Global Terrorism Database (GTD)
      https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files … ew-508.pdf
      
      Terrorist attacks and related incidents in the United States
      https://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terror … p255a.html
      
      Gotaways? A good question. Of all crossings on Biden's watch 18% are gotaways. Again, for me of least, to gain perspective I would do the numbers game. So, for now, again, I would flip a coin to answer that question while maintaining, that, yes I am concerned.
      
      7.5 million encounters nationwide
      6.2 million at southern border
      1.7 million gotaways
      Thus, a total of 9.2 million border crossings
      So, we get that 1.7 million is 18% of all
      
      FACTSHEET: Final FY23 Numbers Show Worst Year at America’s Borders—Ever
      https://homeland.house.gov/2023/10/26/f … ders-ever/
      
      Using those numbers while thinking that most of the terror watchlist hits of border crossing catches is the northern border give me pause again. Why?
      
      I like to dance. It is good exercise isn't it? Justify? One may simply say as the base number goes up the correlating numbers follow along. Its the same with manufacturing. With increased production defect count goes up too. So, to me, the question falls upon how in the hell are we going to inhibit those who to come to the U.S. much less catch them at the border once there.
      
      I would like to add I do have faith in the Homeland Security and the U.S. Customs and Border Control. I mean how in the hell do they even come up with who to put on the watchlist to begin with. Amazing to me. The FBI too in actually preventing terrorist attacks.

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         Sharlee01posted 5 months agoin reply to this

         All good valid points. Thanks for the food for thought.

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      Willowarborposted 5 months agoin reply to this

      Is it at all remotely possible that our apprehension efforts have improved  .and therefore the number of apprehensions has risen? Does it concern you that in 2017 there were only 2 apprehensions? How many got away or weren't apprehended in 2017? That's partly rhetorical because I don't think we can know the answer to that question. Therefore I'm not sure what these stats really prove except we are catching more terrorists on the border now than before and that seems like it would be a good thing.
      
      Although DHS says this:
      
      “The increase in encounters of individuals on the terror screening data set are largely commensurate with the increased flow to the border more broadly,” a DHS official told reporters. “Naturally, as we see more people arrive at the border from different countries, we are more likely going to see an increase in individuals who might be on the watchlist or directly related to terror activity.”
      
      At any rate, I think our homegrown terrorists pose more of a threat. We have Trump calling a large segment of the population of vermin to be rooted out (echoes of Hitler for sure).
      His spokesperson doubled down on it..
      
      Steven Cheung, a Trump campaign spokesperson, responded to the backlash by calling critics “snowflakes” and promising that “their existence will be crushed”
      
      Crushed?  Cool stuff I guess.
      
      I'm with chip Roy when he made the speech on the house floor asking any of his fellow Republicans to bring him one shred of anything Republicans have done with their house majority.. just one thing he can take back to his voters and run on.
      
      Zip.  They would rather complain about immigration than to act in a bipartisan manner to enact reform, that is quite obvious.

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         Sharlee01posted 5 months agoin reply to this

         Thanks for sharing your view.

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