There are 531,706 Global Fast Food Restaurants businesses as of 2023. Let that sink in. Businesses, not outlets. Maybe not all American, but what about breadth as in outlets?
Hints . . .
Subway - 42,998 Locations
McDonald's - 37,200 Locations
Starbucks - 30,000 Locations
KFC - 20,404 Locations
Burger King - 16,859 Locations
The World's Largest Fast Food Restaurant Chains
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the … hains.html
"The U.S. fast food market size was valued at US$ 126.00 billion in 2022 and it is predicted to reach US$ 180.32 billion by 2032 with a CAGR of 3.70% from 2023 to 2032. North America dominated the fast food market in 2021 with revenue share of 28%." World Domination?
World's Largest Fast Food Chains (Top Ten)
https://www.foodandwine.com/lifestyle/w … ood-chains
Fast Food and Quick Service Restaurant Global Market Report 2023
[url]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fast-food-quick-restaurant-global-143900896.html[/url
The global fast food market size was estimated at US$ 700 billion in 2022 and it is expected to hit US$ 1001.78 billion by 2032 with a registered CAGR of 3.70% from 2023 to 2032.
https://www.precedenceresearch.com/fast-food-market
Your post is certainly food for thought.
I was curious as to what extent we have American fast food restaurants in the UK, relative to the whole UK fast food market. So, I spent some time doing a bit of digging on the web and gathered together some interesting and education data, with perhaps a few surprises e.g. certainly, American fast food chain outlets do dominate the fast food chain outlets in the UK, but not the whole of the UK fast food market.
There are around 56,638 fast food outlets in the UK, of which about 8,901 are chains – the other 47,737 are independent outlets; therefore the fast food chains accounts for around 15% of the total outlets in the UK.
In total, of the 8,901 fast food chain outlets in the UK, 6,155 are American and 2,746 are British; so American fast food chains accounts for around 11% of the total fast food outlets (chains and independent) in the UK.
However, the biggest fast food outlet in Britain is not American, it’s British – namely Greggs (with 2,406 outlets: The full list of the 9 large fast food chain companies in the UK is:-
• Greggs: (British) = 2,406 outlets in UK
• Subway (American) = 2,170
• McDonald’s (American) = 1,417
• Starbucks (American) = 1,258
• Pizza Hut (American) = 510
• Nando’s (American) = 465
• Pizza Express (British) = 340
• Ben & Jerry’s (American) = 169
• Five Guys (American) = 166
As you can see from the above, Greggs (British) is the largest fast food chain in the UK, followed by Subway, with McDonald’s third.
Americans Try Greggs for the First Time! https://youtu.be/iKiJmhW5G84
In researching, I did discover that there are several American fast food chains that have tried and failed, or are trying to get a foothold in the UK; for example:-
1. Chick-fil-A left (American) left the UK after just six months because activists had protested about the brand’s charitable foundation’s history of donating to anti-LGBTQ+ organisations.
2. In 2020 Wahlburgers shut its one and only UK restaurant after just a year.
3. Popeyes have been trying to get a foothold in the UK market for years, and so far have only managed to open 27 outlets across the UK.
Another issue that affects American fast food outlets in the UK is that there are over 1,500 food laws in the UK that forces American brands to change their ingredients to comply with UK regulations; for example McDonald’s fries in the UK are made with oil, salt and potatoes, while USA fries are made from potatoes, oil, beef flavour (containing hydrolysed wheat and hydrolysed milk), dextrose salt, and sodium acid pyrophosphate (for colour) – which makes the American recipe illegal in the UK.
THE FULL MAKEUP OF FAST FOOD OUTLETS IN THE UK:
• British independent fast food restaurants = over 20,000.
• Asian Restaurants in UK (many being Chinese fish and chip shops) = 12,712
• English fish and chips in UK = over 10,500
• American fast food chains = 6,155
• Italian restaurants in UK = 4,093
• British fast food chains = 2,746
By far, fish and chips are one of the biggest fast foods of choice in the UK, far outstripping McDonalds. And there are almost as many Chinese fish and chip shops as English ones. The Chinese do their chips the English way, so their chips are more appealing to the English market than the American chips (sold in MacDonald’s) e.g. chunky (British chips) rather than the skinny American chips (chips in American language being fries).
Americans Try Fish and Chips in London England for the First Time https://youtu.be/kTV0C_6MftI
Howdy Nathan! I really enjoyed the video about Fish & Chips UK style. It would be cool to be financially able to visit different countries just to sample the native foods with their tastes and delights. I imagine you do that with your holidays across the channel. Being a fan of Asian foods I would enjoy trying native foods to contrast with the frozen TV dinners I get for my weekly menu plan.
https://www.pfchangshomemenu.com/
I enjoyed the fish & chips video so much that today I went to Farmer Boys and ordered a 3 piece fish and fries for take out lunch today. M'm . . . M'm Notice they use the term fries and not chips. Perhaps, a feeble attempt to Americanize a UK established favorite. hmm . . .
https://www.farmerboys.com/menu/3-pc-fi … -and-fries
Interesting information you provided, yet, with jest were you trying to defend the UK against the ever growing world dominating market forces of the American fast food industry. Valiantly fighting with the valid point that the fast food industry in the UK is only 15% of the market? As shared Greggs has more outlets, yet are they in Europe, Asia, or elsewhere? McDonald's is in 118 countries and Starbucks is in 84.
I do have to say a novel approach, yet in my mind if fails at disproving the American fast food businesses as an industry power house are not a world dominating force of business enterprise. Today, the American fast food industry rules the world and soon the universe!!
Just for info is a link to 10 Biggest Restaurant Companies provided by Investopedia (Apr 23, 2023). One will discover some of the Corporations that own some fast food chains are actually not American. For instance 'Yum' is a China Holding Company. Also, seen is that some own restaurant chains and not fast food chains. Gives another perspective to consider.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/m … cdsbux.asp
For the American market America's 10 Fastest-Growing Restaurant Chains again by Investopedia offers insight.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/m … chains.asp
If I had a mutual fund still I would consider moving my money into the restaurant industry. Looks they have a consistent return of investment.
Thanks for your feedback, which raises some interesting points:-
1. On your first point, although we’ve spent a lot of time in France and Belgium over the years, we are a family of fussy eaters e.g. my son and I are vegetarian and my wife doesn’t like spicy foods.
So, when we travel we stick to plain English food (how boring, and unadventurous, can one get)!
Fortunately, even in France about 1 in 10 restaurants, Cafés and pubs do offer an English menu, typically for example cheese omelette and chips – which is easy to order as in French its “omelette au fromage de frites”.
2. That leads nicely to your second point. It’s not just America that call chips fries, fries is the international word for chips e.g. the French word for chips is frites, which in English means fries.
It’s just the English who call fries, chips?
Likewise, what you call chips in America we call crisps in the UK; but the international word for what you call chips (and we call crisps) is “chips”.
3. Looking at your first two links - In the first link, as a fan of Asian foods you would love travelling around the UK as we have lots of Asian food outlets (fast foods & restaurants) in Britain, which would be a delight for your taste buds e.g. the ready meals in your first link wouldn’t be a patch on the delights from the Asian food outlets in the UK.
That’s cool that you enjoyed my English fish & chips video, and that afterwards you treated yourself to fish and fries from ‘Farmers Boys’, looking at the photo, I noticed the chips in the image were of the skinny (American) type, rather than the fat (European) type – and it does make a difference to the taste e.g. skinny chips do taste completely different to fat chips. In fact, one restaurant we went to last year had both types of chips on the menu, so that you could specify which type of chip you wanted – And a few times we’ve been to restaurant’s that have also offered ‘chunky chips’ on the menu e.g. chips that are twice as thick as ordinary English chips (about 1 inch thick) – and they are really yummy. In fact, when I cook chips at home I tend to make them chunky chips, as my wife prefers them that way – and probably healthier, as there is less ‘surfaces to volume’ area for the fat (oil).
4. On to your last and probably most important point: American world domination in the fast food industry.
I agree, there is no doubt that American fast food chains do dominate the world, McDonalds, which has outlets in virtually every country in the world is a prime example.
While in contrast, I don’t know of any British fast food chain that’s ‘international’.
For clarity, I didn’t have any agenda when I gathered all the data for fast food outlets in the UK, I was just curious as to what the data I gathered would reveal.
Firstly, it didn’t surprise me that the fast food chains is only 15% of the total of fast food outlets in the UK, in that in any High Street in Britain the ‘independent’ (sole owners) do dominate the fast food outlets.
But what did surprise me is that of the fast food chains in the UK, three quarters are American, and only a quarter are British (predominately Greggs) – but Chinese ‘take-away’ and English ‘Fish & Chip’ shops (all independent outlets) do out number Greggs and MacDonald’s by far (no surprise there).
But Greggs hasn’t always been the most dominant fast food chain in the UK, just 10 years ago they only had 165 outlets in Britain, and was unknown by most Brits. Greggs first started out as a bakery in Tyneside (Northern England) in 1939, and it wasn’t until 1994 that it started to expand.
It was the popularity of ‘Greggs’ sausage rolls that shot them to fame, helping them (within the last 10 years) to become the second largest fast food outlet in Britain, behind Subway.
And within the last few years, with many Brits being vegetarian, the introduction of their vegan sausage rolls pushed them that extra mile, into the top position – pushing Subway into second place.
This video below is of two Americans who tour Britain, and who love their food; in this video they visit Bristol and part of that visit is to St Nicholas Market (operating since 1743), which has lots of fast food outlets, none of which are chain stores e.g. they are all ‘independent’; which is quite common for many High Streets in Britain. I love watching these American videos, I find them a very entertaining couple: For reference, the cider they sample is alcoholic e.g. 50% more alcohol (stronger) than beer. https://youtu.be/2mfUgU40hrI
Another video by this American couple I enjoyed was when they were comparing the difference between Cornish Cream Tea and Devonshire Cream Tea:
Cream Tea CORNWALL VS DEVON! https://youtu.be/lG_Rr51t2O8?si=_zxxASa … &t=262
N.B. Although you can now buy cream tea in most parts of Britain, for some reason e.g. something to do with the recipe for the scones, it’s almost never a patch on the cream teas that you can buy in Cornwall and Devon – So when we travel to Devon or Cornwall we always make a point of treating ourselves to one of their cream teas.
Talking about MacDonald's:
A major news item on British News today, a MacDonald's in London has got into hot water because two of their security guards mopping up the pavement outside the shop soaked the sleeping bag of a homeless person.
After an outcry from the British public, MacDonald's responded on social media, including these two statement:-
"The third party security guards involved have been permanently removed from our restaurants and the restaurant team has been reminded of the importance of treating all people with respect, including vulnerable people both in the restaurant and within the wider community."
"We would like to wholeheartedly apologise to the gentleman in the video and will work with the council (local government) to locate him and make amends as part of our ongoing work to support homelessness charities in & around the area."
https://news.sky.com/story/security-gua … g-13027065
What tells the fast food culture us about the American culture?
That the almighty buck is what counts, of course ha-ha
I know my time is worth alot more than money. Like the physical, spiritual, intellectual and relationships.
The closest to world domination was from depression days to the end of world world 2. America had a good run for it after that, until now. I think smaller countries is where we ought to be for a gross national product of happiness.
I remember the day the first McDonald's opened in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia in 1994. Three refrigerator trucks full of hamburger patties sold out that first day!
Best KFC I ever ate was in Hanau, Germany in 1983.
Your forum, and our recent discussion has given me food for thought; and overnight three related topics sprang to mind, chips, baked beans and chocolate; each one I shall cover in a separate post.
First - The chip.
As I previously said, the thickness of the chip (fries in American) affects the taste; and it occurred to me that that has a lot to do with the fat (oil) to potato ratio e.g. skinny American chips will have a much higher fat to potato ratio than the thicker European chip.
In relation to that, now we have an air-fryer (which uses little fat (oil) in cooking, I cook our chips in the air-fryer rather than using a deep fat fryer (as we used to do); and that also subtly affects the taste.
Another interesting point is that I also use our air-fryer to cook roast potatoes, and apart from pre-cooking the potatoes in the microwave to soften the centre before using the air-fryer to crisp them off, the roast potatoes are cooked in exactly the same way as chips in the air-fryer; the only difference is that roast potatoes are a lot chunkier than chips – yet they taste completely different to the chips?
Any thoughts?
Interesting. Today, I have a challenge with what is known as Hyperkalemia. That is an abnormal amount of potassium in the blood. Potatoes are very high in potassium, so I shy away from them these days. Yesterday, I only ate potatoes by baking them with a steak, fries with burgers, and mashed at Thanksgiving and Christmas celebration dinner with gravy. At home, I used to bake them even for a snack at times.
Personally, the In-n-Out burger has the fries I like most followed by McDonald's. In-n-Out is my favorite burger place I drive 3 miles (5 km) to them and bring it home to eat. I wrap the burger and fries in aluminum foil for the drive home, which works great. I will eat both In-n-Out and McDonald's without ketchup, whereas for other places, I use ketchup.
Both of them are skinny fries compared to others, but all American fries are skinny compared to a chip. Do they serve chip-style fries at McDonald's in the UK or American skinny ones?
In-n-Out uses fresh potatoes and actually slices them in the outlet. In other words, they are not prepackaged. They use sunflower oil. McDonald's uses a Canola oil blend.
Quality you can taste In-n-Out
https://www.in-n-out.com/menu/food-quality
McDonald's French Fries Aren't Just Potatoes — Here's What's in Them
https://www.allrecipes.com/article/what … nch-fries/
I haven't had what is referred to as a chip as yet. I also have not had anything from an air fryer at all. So, I am taking your assessment of both as being true.
As for the amount of oil on the fry or chip, wouldn't one have to look into the surface area to make an assessment? The chip appears to have a bigger surface area. I do admit I don't eat a single fry, usually having two or three at the same time. So, maybe it equals out?
1. Potassium:
I too have to watch my potassium levels.
Having had kidney problems back in 2021 I too have to be warry of my potassium levels; so to keep my potassium levels within normal range, on medical advice from the NHS I’ve switched from pure orange juice to pure apple juice, and cut down on oranges and bananas – but I still eat a lot of potatoes (up to about 400gms per day) – and currently my potassium level is high, but just within the normal range.
2. Local Takeaways:
Wow, you travel 3 miles to your favourite local takeaway for your burger and fries.
The four nearest takeaways to us are all fish & chip shops (three English and one Chinese), and all within 5 minutes’ walk from where we live (in three different directions). My favourite is the Chinese fish & chip shop as they also have omelette on the menu, but my wife prefers the two English fish & chip shops close to each other on the road in the opposite direction to us from the Chinese chip shop, because do better chips.
3. Condiments:
I love ketchup too, and pepper.
For Brits, salt and vinegar is a must with their chips – I get the impression that vinegar isn’t normally put on chips (fries) in America?
4. McDonald’s Chips in UK:
No, unfortunately, McDonald’s in the UK do the American chip, which is why we never use them, even though (in the UK) they do have vegetarian Burgers on the menu. Do they have vegetarian burgers on the menu in America?
5. McDonald’s ingredients for chips USA vs UK:
Thanks for the links. As stated in your 2nd link, there are 10 ingredients in McDonald’s chips sold in America, namely - potatoes, vegetable oil (which contains canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, and natural beef flavour with wheat and milk derivatives), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate, and salt.
In the UK, for legal reasons, there are only 4 ingredients in McDonald’s chips sold in the UK, namely – potatoes, a blend of sunflower and rapeseed oil and salt - There are over 1,500 food laws in the UK that forces American brands to change their ingredients to comply with UK regulations.
6. Surface Area of American vs UK chips.
Yep, you are right, “for the amount of oil on the fry or chip, (one would) have to look into the surface area to make an assessment?” In that respect, chunky chips (British chips) has far less surface area, and hence less oil than skinny chips (American chips) cut from the same size potato.
7. Cooking Chips in an Air-Fryer:
I appreciate that if you don’t try you don’t know; but perhaps this short video may demonstrate better than I can explain: https://youtu.be/-NMEmFYH1S8
Like in the video, I also cook potatoes with their skins on, even for chips; not everyone does, but a large minority of Brits do these days – Is that something that’s some Americans do?
Some restaurants we’ve been to even give that as an option on their menu, usually called potatoes wedges e.g. very chunky chips cooked in their skins – and very tasty too.
Baked Beans:
Source:
1. The Haricot beans used for baked beans in mainland Europe are grown in Europe.
2. The Haricot beans used for baked beans in America are grown in America.
3. The baked beans sold in the UK are imported from America (not Europe).
Ingredients (sugar):
1. Baked beans sold in mainland Europe contains about half the quantity of sugar than baked beans sold in the UK.
2. Baked beans sold in the UK contains about half the quantity of sugar than baked beans sold in America e.g. the American producer of baked beans put less sugar in the baked beans exported to the UK than the baked beans they sale on the American market?
The Effect Sugar Levels has on Menu Options?
A very popular and traditional British dish is ‘Baked Beans on Toast’. Although baked beans on toast is a very popular dish in Britain, it’s not a dish you find in mainland Europe, nor America; and I’m sure that has a lot to do with the level of sugar content (The Goldilocks Affect).
During the pandemic British supermarkets where having chronic supply chains issues e.g. they couldn’t get their usual supply of baked beans from America, so substituted European baked beans; we had a dozen delivered in our grocery order, and tried one tin – ugh – not sweet enough (more like a vegetable that you would have with peas and carrots, rather than something you would put on toast) – so we gave the rest away to a local ‘food bank’.
And although I haven’t tasted the baked beans sold in America, I can imagine that they would be too sweet to work well with toast; but I wouldn’t know – although it would explain why baked beans on toast isn’t popular in America?
Americans Try Beans on Toast: https://youtu.be/OzqTOHESfDs
About two thirds through the above video the American couple discus how Americans do the swopping of their knife and fork between the two hands while eating; something we don’t do in Europe e.g. in Europe we hold the knife in our right hand and the fork in our left hand the whole time; and if we do put our knife and fork down part way through eating, we put them on the plate at an angle to each other to signify that we haven’t finished eating (as shown in the video below). And once we’ve finished the meal then the knife and fork are placed on the plate next to each other (as shown in the video below) – Is this something that Americans generally do?
This short video explains better than I can: How to use and hold cutlery https://youtu.be/_R70v6xDr_s
I have not tried baked beans on toast, but I would consider it. I like baked beans, but I have the same challenge today. Legumes and beans, in general, are high in potassium. Damn! In the past, though diabetic, I ignored how much sugar was in baked beans. In other words, breaking the rules now and then doesn't hurt.
Generally, in the past, I would have baked beans with a steak or fried chicken. But, talking about sugar, I preferred bar-b-q baked beans. So, yes, inundated with sugar. Bush's has a baked bean product that has zero sugar added. I just discovered that at their site now. I'll have to see if they have them at my market. And, try them with toast.
Bush's Baked Beans
https://www.bushbeans.com/en_US/product … lsrc=aw.ds
Taking a gander at their products, one will discover a lot of their products actually advertise them as being sweet like Brown Sugar Honey or Sweet Heat. Brown sugar seems to be a common ingredient in their different products.
I fear I possess little etiquette about myself other than common table manners. I did not know about how to use utensils. I learned. I am one who uses my right hand to cut, but I use my left hand for the meat with my fork unless there is no cutting, then I use my right hand.
I found both videos informative. Do you put cheese on your beans and toast? Or, add anything else, I suspect not. Today is my market day, so I will be keeping a sharp eye for the baked beans without sugar or say to the hell with it and get another variety anyway.
Yep, that’s what my NHS dieticians have told me “breaking the rules now and then doesn't hurt”.
1. Baked beans with….
Although baked beans is quite versatile e.g. goes with most any dish; usually with steak or fried chicken in the UK, people would have peas, not baked beans.
We normally buy the cheapest baked beans, usually when they are on offer e.g. half price, and stock up in our food store at the bottom of the garden. Usually the supermarket own brands or the unbranded tins of baked beans are the cheapest, but occasionally a branded baked beans goes on offer (for a short period), temporarily making them cheaper than the supermarket brands.
There is no discernible difference between the supermarket brands and a branded tins in that the supermarket brands is the same baked beans as the branded tins, but without the manufacturers label e.g. bulk buy deal between the supermarket and the manufacturer.
But occasionally we will treat ourselves to a small stock of the Heinz Five Beans.
2. Zero Added Sugar:
Thanks for the link to Bush’s Baked Beans; I had a look at their ingredients for the zero added sugar, it’s only 1gm of sugar per 130gms = 0.7gms per 100gms.
Which is cool, very, very, low sugar: I’d be interested in your opinion to what they taste like if you do manage to buy some.
I also looked at their ‘original’ baked beans, and that’s a whopping 12gm of sugar per 150gms = 8gms per 100gms; which confirms what I said previously e.g. that the sugar content of baked beans sold in America is double that of the baked beans sold in the UK – in spite of the fact that we import our baked beans from America.
The baked beans sold in the UK contain just 4.3gms of sugar per 100grms.
3. Cutlery Etiquette:
What you describe (swapping your knife and fork from hand to hand) is the typical American way (not the European way), which is fine; as they say “when in Rome do what the Romans do”.
4: Beans on Toast Variations:
I haven’t tried putting grated cheese on the beans, on the toast; the thought has never occurred to me before - but it does sound rather appetising, and it’s something I want to try (will definitely try) before Christmas e.g. we often have baked beans on one piece of toast, and cheese on another piece of toast – So combing the two on the same toast sounds an excellent idea.
Other toast snacks I like include:-
• Mashed potatoes on toast, topped with cheese, with baked beans on the side, and
• Tomato chutney on toast, topped with blue cheese e.g. Stilton.
Fast foods have dominated the world over. You find them on carts and with roadside vendors in a tiny shed-like structure.
But, they are not good for health, so I don't recommend them.
Absolutely; we grow all our own organic vegetables (except potatoes), and a wide selection of fruit. And normally (most of the time) we cook our own food, I do the preparation and cooking, using predominately natural and home grown ingredients.
It's only when we travel e.g. day trip/holiday, that we'll eat out - usually in a café or restaurant; although we do treat ourselves to a bag of chips (fries) at least once on holiday, to have a chip butty back at our holiday accommodation.
What are fast foods there in India? Do you have Americanized fast food places like McDonald's?
CHOCOLATE
Cocoa content
1. The legal minimum of cocoa beans in EU chocolate is 25%
2. The legal minimum of cocoa beans in UK chocolate is 20%
3. The legal minimum of cocoa beans in USA chocolate is 10%
Fat content
1. The legal maximum in EU & USA chocolate is 5%
2. The legal maximum in UK chocolate is 25%
You can see from the above that chocolate in the USA, UK and EU are all quite different from each other.
Our preference is by far Belgium chocolate, as that contains far higher cocoa content, well above the EU legal minimum – And consequently is very expensive, but very lush. So whenever we’re in Belgium we always go on a shopping spree and buy lots of Belgium chocolate to bring back with us.
This video below is by an American family who have immigrated to the UK; they do an interesting comparison/competition between our two nations – I haven’t watched Part 2 yet, because I’m running out of time – but I should imagine part 2 is just as gripping.
AMERICANS COMPARE US vs. UK CHOCOLATE: Part 1 https://youtu.be/gNOImeOC-zs
I don't eat much chocolate except fun-size Snickers and Milkway. Fun sizes are small compared to a traditional candy bar size. They both use a milk chocolate. Snickers are only a coating over the nougat and nuts the bar mainly is. I searched to find out cacao or Cocoa percentage, not finding anything but being a milk chocolate I suspect is very low.
My grocery store, Albertsons, stocks Ghirardelli Chocolate bars of various sizes. They have some bars with as much as 100% cacao. At my store, they have 60 - 72 - 86% bars. Once in a while, I will get one for something different to have as a treat.
Ghirardelli Chocolate
https://www.ghirardelli.com/
Albertsons landing page for Ghirardelli Chocolate. My store doesn't have all those available they show, but the bars do they have.
https://www.albertsons.com/shop/search- … late%20bar
We also have Snickers and MilkyWay over here; Snickers used to be called Marathon in the UK until 1990 to avoid controversy because Snickers rhymes with ‘knickers’; but Mars (the manufacturer) wanted a universal name, so changed it back to Snickers in the UK in 1990.
I couldn’t find the cocoa percentage of these bars either; but I did find a comparison between the UK and American MilkyWay bar:
The version of the MilkyWay bar sold outside the USA has no caramel topping; it consists of a nougat centre that is considerably lighter than that of the British Mars bar and the American MilkyWay bar. The global version of the MilkyWay bar is marketed in the USA as the ‘3 Musketeers bar’.
I love dark chocolate too - the traditional British dark chocolate is Bournville, manufactured by Cadbury (British chocolate maker), but it’s not strictly dark chocolate as it only contains 36% cocoa, it just has the appearance of dark chocolate because it has a lower milk content to milk chocolate.
True dark chocolate should be more than 50% cocoa.
The place to go in Europe for the best real dark chocolate is Belgium, which is the European capital of chocolate (if not the world); and whenever we visit Belgium we always come back with a large supply of Belgium chocolate.
This video gives all the reasons why Belgian chocolate is so superior: https://youtu.be/dU_FRNpYjAE
Thanks for the links, I enjoyed exploring the first one (very impressive selection), but couldn’t access the 2nd e.g. blocked over here for ‘security reasons’ (according to the message on the website)?
I really enjoyed the video on Belgian chocolates. Not only informative, but entertaining as well. When I win the lottery, I will visit there for one of the celebrations they have. My curiosity is growing to taste the best Swiss, Belgian, and American chocolates at a sitting to detect their nuances of differences in taste.
Another company here that is very popular is Lindt. I didn't post anything because they aren't sold in my grocery store. But you should get the opportunity to peek at their site with products.
Lindt landing page
https://www.lindtusa.com/?gad_source=1& … lsrc=aw.ds
Next is a link to the history of Ghirardelli
https://www.ghirardelli.com/about-ghirardelli-history
Also, the order of my preference for my fun size candy bars are:
Snickers
Milkyway
PayDay - not chocolate, but the company is owned by Hershey Chocolate
Three Musketeer Bar
I keep a full-size Milky Way bar in my fridge in case I have a low blood sugar drop.
PayDay bars
https://www.hersheyland.com/payday
Yep, that would be great to have Belgium, Swiss, American and British together for a chocolate tasting comparison.
Unlike Belgium chocolate, which is difficult to buy in the UK, Lindt chocolate is widely available here, selling in all supermarkets and small local food shops (called corner shops in the UK). But we don’t get chocolate sold under the name of Ghirardelli in Britain – it would be interesting to know how the recipe for Ghirardelli sold in America compares with the recipe for the Swedish Lindt chocolate!
Yeah I also like Snickers, and the British Milkyways (which is called the Three Musketeers in the USA); I couldn’t access your Hersheyland website to look at the PayDay bars as that is yet another website where access in the UK is blocked).
Not including Belgium chocolate, my five top favourite chocolates, in order of preference, are:-
1. Ferrero Rocher (Italian)
2. Maltesers (by Mars – American Company)
3. Bounty (shredded coconut coated in chocolate by Mars – American Company)
4. Twix (by Mars – American Company)
5. Fry’s Turkish Delight (by Cadbury – British Company)
I also like Fry's Chocolate Cream as an occasional special treat (by Cadbury – British Company); Fry’s chocolate e.g. Fry’s Turkish Delight and Fry's Chocolate Cream etc. was originally made by Fry’s (a Quaker Family in Bristol), who founded their Fry’s chocolate in Bristol in 1761. My great-grandparents (on my maternal grandmother’s side) were Quakers when the married in Bristol, and one of the witnesses who signed their marriage certificate is a Bristol Fry – a nice bit of touch to my family history.
When the Fry’s chocolate factory was still operational in Bristol we took our son to see Santa there, and they also allowed the parents to see Santa as well; so as a big kid, I saw Santa and came out with a gift wrap china mug filled with a mixture of Fry’s chocolate bars.
Sadly, the factory closed in 2010 and the business was taken over by Cadbury (another British chocolate manufacturer.
Another favourite of mine, but it’s only sold at Easter in the UK, is the Cadbury Creme Egg (originally made by Fry’s in Bristol).
This short video is an overview of Fry’s of Bristol (poor volume after the first 20 seconds, but the first 20 seconds gives a glimpse of who the Bristol Fry’s were, and the role they played in British chocolate). https://youtu.be/t8oUR8Irf6c
It’s interesting that Americans call everything high in sugar all ‘candy’. The word candy doesn’t exist in the British English; we either call it chocolate if it’s made with chocolate otherwise we call it sweets!
Notwithstanding that you are diabetic; do you also like chocolate truffles?
Every Christmas as a family treat I make a batch of lemon curd chocolate truffles, and jam chocolate truffles. I much prefer the lemon curd ones, so this year I shall make just lemon curd chocolate truffles.
If you search Google for “Lemon Curd and Jam Chocolate Truffle Recipe” you’ll find my recipe on HP.
I got my inspiration after seeing the recipes on the popular British TV cookery programme Series ‘River Cottage’ presented by Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall; and after a bit of experimentation, adapted to recipe to something that works for me.
Although Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall isn’t a vegetarian he did do a vegetarian season on his TV show, which I thoroughly enjoyed watching. Below is Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall giving a vegetarian Christmas Meal recipe on a British TV Morning chat show, including reference to his vegan gravy, which I have tried with an ardent meat eater friend of mind (when I was visiting him, I gave him the recipe and he made it for us, out of curiosity), and we both thought the gravy was superb: https://youtu.be/GAOrgt3OhNw
One last item topic before I sign off for the day:
PANCAKES
British and American pancakes are quite different in that baking powder is used in the American pancake, but not in the British pancake – Consequently the American pancake is much thicker and fluffier than the British pancake – while the British pancakes are much thinner and larger in diameter e.g. the British pancake is the diameter of a dinner plate.
How often do Americans have pancakes?
In Britain pancakes is a holiday celebration that we have only on ‘Pancake Day’ e.g. shrove Tuesday.
The tradition of pancake races on Pancake Day (Shrove Tuesday) in Britain dates back to 1445, which is older than the annual Guy Fawkes celebrations in Britain on the 5th Nov, which dates back to only 1607.
In Britain pancake races on Pancake Day is thriving a British tradition: https://youtu.be/8yC_Of1DUes
Interesting you have a special day for Pancakes.
Pancakes are very popular here. Dad's making pancakes for a Sunday breakfast for the kids is almost legendary—a common theme in movies and family TV shows. My brother makes a pancake for his son as a birthday tradition, with candles and all.
I go to Farmer Boys and get take-out for them when the mood strikes me. Or, I go to the IHOP, which means International House of Pancakes. Their menu is centered on breakfast with pancakes. They serve breakfast at all hours. Every now and then, I get the Swedish pancake also known as crepe in some circles.
On each table, they have about three or four different types of syrups to put on your pancakes. Do you use syrup on yours? Here it is butter and syrup put on them.
IHOP Menu
https://www.ihop.com/en/menu?utm_source … d_source=1
IHOP Pancake part of the menu
https://www.ihop.com/en/menu/world-famo … k-pancakes
IHOP crepe part of the menu
https://www.ihop.com/en/menu/crepes
Yep, as you said, I often see “Dad's making pancakes for breakfast for the kids” in American films.
Yep, Pancake Day is the only day of the year that we have pancakes; something to look forward to as a special annual treat. And in the UK it tends to be for an evening meal, rather than breakfast.
On Pancake Day my wife makes the mix, enough for 3 or 4 pancakes each, and then in the evening I do the cooking as it’s traditional to toss them in the frying pan, rather than turn them over with a spatula, and I’ve got the knack for tossing pancakes, while my wife doesn’t. I cook one batch at a time so that we can eat them while they are still warm – and then cook the 2nd batch, and so on, until all the batter is gone.
Even the chiefs in the British Army are taught how to toss pancakes for Pancake Day in the UK (as this short (old) 2 minute video show): https://youtu.be/-25a3bIYJZY
The British equivalent to your (American) pancake breakfast is the ‘Traditional’ Full English Breakfast; which these days many British cafés offer on their menu – sometimes as an ‘All Day Full English Breakfast’ – And these days, they always also offer a vegetarian version e.g. vegetarian sausage. So when travelling, on a day trip or on holiday in England, we often treat ourselves to a full English breakfast.
Another traditional English breakfast is ‘soft boiled eggs and soldiers’ – soldiers being toast cut into thin strips to dip into the yoke of the egg.
At home, we always treat ourselves to both the full English breakfast and soft boiled eggs with soldiers on bank holidays e.g. Christmas, Easter etc. Obviously we don’t have both together; we have the full English breakfast one morning, and then the soft boiled egg next day.
The first video below is the full English Breakfast, which in this video includes ‘black pudding’; but for clarity, black pudding (made from pigs blood) is only liked by Northerners (we southerners can’t stomach black pudding), so you’ll only find it on the menu in Northern England (not in the south) – and of course this is the English Breakfast, so in Scotland and Northern Ireland and Wales, they have their own variants.
When I cook the Full English Breakfast at home, I use vegetarian sausages and vegetarian bacon for myself.
How to Make Breakfast Like a Brit https://youtu.be/rmieAqTG1wI
Soft Boiled Egg and Soldiers: https://youtu.be/dL6XbdSAyPs
No, we don’t put syrup on our pancakes in Britain; we pour a little bit of lemon juice over our pancakes.
Wow – Can’t access any of the three website links – The message is “The owner of this website (www.ihop.com) has banned the country or region your IP address is in (GB) from accessing this website.”
I got a good chuckle of the Army training video. Not only them tossing the pancakes, but the year it was made. Plus, how young the lads looked.
I am all in favor of the full English breakfast. M'm . . . M'm Tasty looking. I would try the black pudding to just to find out about it.
I don't really like runny eggs, so the 'Soft boiled eggs and soldiers' is iffy for me. I would give it a go and as they say when in Rome do as the Romans do.
My dad always liked to show off for us kids when I was young and toss a pancake as high as he could in the air. I have never tried it myself.
I don't understand why you weren't allowed access to the IHOP site. They are international. The company has 1,841 locations in the Americas, the Middle East, and South Asia. I take note they aren't in Europe. hmm . . .
There are so many different types of breakfast here in the U.S. I wouldn't know where to begin. In my area here a common breakfast is Chorizo and eggs a Mexican delight.
Chorizo (Sausage) and Eggs on the Blackstone Griddle About a 6 min video showing how to prepare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3p6qmOVXn4
One I prepare at home is a southern delight from the Southern states. It is biscuits and gravy. Simple, filling, and tasty. For you to try it would be the need of a veggie type of sausage.
Homestyle Biscuits and Sausage Gravy | Easy & Delicious Homemade Breakfast Recipe About a 3 min video showing you how to prepare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDZ3891zvls
I usually 3 - 4 times a month go and get a breakfast burrito. I haven't tried making my own. The link next is how to make three different versions. It is lengthy at about 12 min. But, it is entertaining. One thing to consider is they make veggie versions, too.
The Perfect Breakfast Burrito (3 Ways)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R_3iuNNUk0
Edit: The breakfast burritos I get at Jilbertos is much larger than the ones in the video. Next is a picture of one. The burrito has scrambled eggs, potatoes, either ham, chorizo (Sausage), bacon or a combination of some sort, and cheese. As seen in the pic following there is choice between red sauce or green. Red is spicier. I use green.
Yep, it’s not uncommon to have websites, like the IHOP site, blocked across the pond; the problem is two-way e.g. occasionally links I send to my American friend in New York are blocked, and frustratingly many links to the annual European Song Contest, as he likes that sort of music, and for the occasional European Song Contest video that does work in America, he loves it.
I watched your Chorizo (sausage) and Eggs recipe with fascination; and apart from not being vegetarian, it certainly looks very tasty, and appetising – although that’s not a problem as I could replicate the recipe with soya mix; which I often do for other recipes e.g. I sometimes make a vegetarian version of Shepard’s Pie (Cottage Pie) using seasoned soya mince as a good substitute for meat.
The only difference between Shepard’s Pie and Cottage Pie is that Shepard’s pie is made with mince lamb, and Cottage pie is made with mince beef.
Shepard’s Pie/Cottage Pie (a British traditional dish) originated in Ireland and England in the 18th century as a simple tasty and nutritious dish made from food scraps (leftovers) and cheap food ingredients by the peasants (poor people) e.g. Shepard’s living in cottages – This link explains in full dental: https://greatist.com/eat/a-history-of-shepherds-pie#1
Shepard’s Pie Recipe: https://youtu.be/t1WB16p-6yM
Your second recipe “Homestyle Biscuits and Sausage Gravy” was in intriguing one e.g. problems with the language barrier – which I shall explain in a minute.
Yeah, the recipe itself is simple enough, and I do have a couple of bags of vegetarian sausage mix, so I could easily make the sausage/flour and milk mix as shown in your video link – and I would be intrigued to know what it tastes like – So I think I will give it a try at some point.
The 2nd part of the recipe e.g. serving the sausage mix in the Homestyle Biscuit, is the part that confused me e.g. in the Britain that isn’t a biscuit – So I did a lot of research, and discovered that what you call a Homestyle biscuit in America is what we call scones in Britain; and in Britain we have scones with jam and cream, so I’m not sure that filling a scone with meat (even a vegetarian meat) would appeal to me. To me as a Brit, putting the sausage mix in a bread roll would be more appealing, and potentially tasty.
The language barrier that confused me is that what you call biscuits are generally what we call scones. We do have cookies in the UK, but they are a specific type of biscuit.
This is what we call cookies in the UK, everything else that you call cookies we call biscuits: https://youtu.be/PFJAuAWxuvI
Your last link ‘The Perfect Breakfast Burrito (3 Ways)’ - interesting recipes, which I could easily convert to vegetarian versions; so it might give me some ideas for experimentation in the future. The only question is the tortillas e.g. tortillas is something I have tried a couple of times, and its ok, but it’s not quite to my taste.
Following on from your suggestion the other day, I tried beans on toast topped with grated cheese yesterday; my full recipe was sliced tomato and chopped onion on buttered toast, topped with baked beans and then topped with a generous handful of grated cheddar cheese.
It was certainly tasty, but the baked beans swamped the taste of the cheese; so you only got a hint of cheese on the beans. So I think on balance I prefer keeping the two separate e.g. baked beans on one piece of toast, and cheese on another piece of toast.
What’s Your Favourite Cheeses?
My favourite are the ‘blue cheeses, such as Stilton, made in Derbyshire, Leicestershire and Nottinghamshire in England.
The blue in the blue cheese being Penicillium mold, the same mould family as Penicillin.
My 2nd most favourite cheese is ‘Cheddar Cheese’, matured (aged) in caves in Cheddar, England.
Cheddar gorge - WHY Cheddar cheese is made in caves: https://youtu.be/ByzSKy_mEMo?si=18vPAzL … G&t=45
Black Cheese
But recently, we saw this at Bath Christmas Market, and I couldn’t resist buying a wedge to try over Christmas - a blend of cheddar cheese and charcoal (giving it its black colour):-
Hi! I did not see your truffles post until just now seeing this cheese one. I have never tasted truffles in my entire life. I just now did a search on what they taste like giving me the impression I may like them. With chocolate maybe more.
I see truffles can be expensive. I did a search at Amazon for truffles seeing they range from $11.04/oz (£8.71) to $340.95/oz (£269.03). There was big variety too. Some of the chocolate selections were not expensive, I guess. I'll post the link hoping you can see it. It is the landing page.
https://www.amazon.com/Truffles/b?ie=UT … =347100011
The next time I have an order for Amazon for this or that I may order a chocolate truffle just to see. I checked what markets in my area have them and none do per my search. But, it showed three chocolate shops that had them.
I did a search at Amazon.UK too just for the heck of it.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=raw+truffl … _sb_noss_1
I am not a big cheese eater at all. For some odd reason I don't like cheese raw preferring it cooked. I don't know why. For some reason the smell of quite a few cheeses I find offensive to me. Blue cheese is definitely out.
I will eat mozzarella of course because I am addicted to pizza. I don't mind a cheddar cheese. I will eat a raw cheddar cheese topping on Mexican food like Tacos. Another cheese raw I like with my sandwiches is a pepper jack cheese. So, I guess I don't mind raw cheese if it is with something. One might sum it up be me saying I never buy cheese at the market.
However, in my old age I am more daring and willing to try something with cheese. At either Christmas or Thanksgiving my sister-in-law makes a broccoli and cheese casserole. I tried it for the first time last year and she has been making it every year since at least 2000. I didn't mind it, but it is not a go-to dish for me. I am unsure what cheese she uses. Maybe a cheddar.
To give you and example Mac-n-cheese is almost a staple here in the U.S. Everyone seems to like it. Macaroni and a cheddar cheese. It is swimming in cheese and I won't eat it without ketchup, a Mexican salsa, or a mild hot sauce.
Thanks for the truffle links to Amazon; it revealed the confusion of the English language where one word can have two different meanings e.g. truffles is a mushroom (fungus), while chocolate truffles is not - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_truffle
Yep, the mushroom called truffles is very rare, which is why it is very expensive; consequently I’ve never had the pleasure of tasting truffles, although as I love mushrooms I’d love to.
In essence, chocolate truffles are very similar to some of the soft centre chocolates in a chocolate selection box, except that chocolate truffles have a short shelf life – which might explain why they tend to be more expensive than ordinary soft centre chocolates. The only place where we can buy chocolate truffles cheaply is when we visit Belgium (Belgium Chocolate Truffles); and they are very lush too – which is why every year I make a large batch of my own chocolate truffles for the family for Christmas, using lemon curd and chocolate as the soft centre, and then coating them in cocoa powder before dipping them in melted chocolate to give a firm outer coat.
I don’t like the soft cheeses that you spread like butter with a knife; but I do love the hard cheeses, especially if they are crumbly – and I love the smell of the blue cheeses: To each his own.
I’m not that keen on the traditional pizzas, but I do love the French pizzas e.g. the cheese and other ingredients melted on French sticks.
EASY French Bread PIZZA Recipe: https://youtu.be/jxJ8jWDzIw8
The only real differences to how I make the French Pizza with the video recipe above is that instead of pepperoni I add slices of pineapple and tomatoes, and we use grated cheddar cheese instead of the mozzarella cheese.
I’ve never heard of ‘pepper jack cheese’ before so I had to look it up on Google, and it’s one cheese I’d like to try if someone offered me some.
Broccoli and cheese casserole sounds nice, I guess it’s similar so ‘cauliflower cheese’ – a favourite dish of ours that I occasionally make for our evening meal; I love making the cheese sauce to pour over the cauliflower before we put it in the oven to bake.
I also love Mac-n-cheese, another dish I occasionally cook for our evening meal – and although I love tomato ketchup, I don’t have it with Mac-n-cheese.
Yeah, two different kinds of truffles. I thought you were referring to chocolate ones with 'making' them at home. But, I have not had either the confectionery type or the mushroom type.
I got one Amazon gift card for Christmas so far, so will be ordering something from them in the not far off future. I will get some chocolate truffles then. I am leaning on getting the Godiva brand. See link next
GOURMET CHOCOLATE TRUFFLE COLLECTIONS
https://www.godiva.com/chocolate-truffl … gK_gPD_BwE
I didn't realize what French Pizza was until I watched the video. I have that type of pizza at least four nights at week for my midnight meal. I get Red Barron frozen ones. It comes with two and I have one for a meal to keep my carb count in line. I like the Pepperoni and Five Cheese selections the most.
https://www.redbaron.com/products/singl … efault.htm
I like two different pizza shops in town. One, Filippi's put a lot of cheese on their pizza. It is kind of a sweet Mozzarella. I tried to find a picture of one, but unable to.
The other is Round Table. They have what is known as "Maui Zaui;
Tender ham, crisp bacon, juicy pineapple, tomatoes, red & green onions. Available on Polynesian or zesty red sauce. At the following it is at the upper right. At the bottom is the Hawaiian Delight with ham and pineapple.
https://www.roundtablepizza.com/menu/
I like it with either sauce equally.
Cool, the Godiva chocolate truffles look lush.
Thanks for the links and feedback on the Red Baron for your French Pizzas, and the Round Table for your traditional pizzas. We only have the home-made French Pizzas two or three times a year e.g. whenever we have French stick bread leftover after a BBQ, buffet or following holidays such as Christmas; in that unlike ordinary bread the French stick bread goes rock hard within a couple of days – so what’s left over after we have a party (buffet) and after Christmas rather than waste it (because it’s gone rock hard) I make it into French pizza (the pineapple and tomato juice re-softens the bread), and we box them up for the freezer – Then when we fancy, we get a few out of the freezer to have with British chips (chunky fries).
We’ve just got back from our family Christmas meal in ‘The Globe Inn’, in Bath (photo below):
And for my Christmas meal at the Globe Inn this afternoon I had:-
• Starters: Baked mushrooms with garlic bread
• Main Meal: Mac-n-cheese with garlic bread, and British chips (chunky fries) as a side order, and
• Dessert: Chocolate Honey Pot – Honey pot with lid made from terra cotta coloured chocolate filled with honey and honeycomb, with ice-cream.
• Drink: Pint of Bitter Shandy.
Total Approx. 2,500 calories (including the drink) - naughty but nice (and also very lush).
And we were seated next to an open coal and log fire, with subdued lighting, so it was very cosy; and although the window looked out onto the busy roundabout just outside the Put Restaurant we had a view of the hills and trees in the background, which was quite scenic.
With such a big meal, I couldn’t manage all my chips, but I took the precaution of taking a couple of doggy bags with me so I could put my surplus chips in one bag, and Helen (my wife) put some of her leftovers in another doggy bag: Putting them in the fridge when we got back, so that we can have them as part of an evening meal tomorrow.
I was just on Facebook and saw the article next. It is saying people have been preparing Mac & Cheese wrong. They are using the famous Kraft brand for it.
The Viral Hack for Making the Best Kraft Mac & Cheese by Reader's Digest (Jan 24, 2023)
https://www.rd.com/article/tiktok-mac-c … sc4IJ4zTrU
Just to offer something of interest if time is of avail the following article by the Smithsonian Magazine might fit that bill
A Brief History of America’s Appetite for Macaroni and Cheese
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ … 180969185/
Is Mac & Cheese popular in the UK?
To answer your question “Is Mac & Cheese popular in the UK?” – The simple answer is most defiantly yes.
These days it’s always one of the main menu items on menus in the majority of restaurants in the UK; so if there is nothing else on the menu that I happen to fancy at the time there is always mac and cheese.
Thanks for the links, which were an intriguing read.
Your first links being a recipe from TikTok for mac and cheese whereby you put all the ingredients together and cook them; rather than cooking the macaroni on its own and making the cheese sauce separately – Thus no flour is needed to thicken the cheese sauce.
The part of making mac and cheese at home that I most enjoy is the making of the cheese sauce, so bypassing that step as in the TikTok recipe would take some of the fun out of making mac and cheese. Although, rather than following the standard (traditional) method of using 100% milk for the cheese sauce, I do use 50% milk, and 50% of the drained water that was used to boil the macaroni – which adds a bit of flavour to the cheese sauce; and for more flavour I always add a generous teaspoon of English Mustard to the cheese sauce. And to add a bit more flavour to the cheddar cheese used for making the cheese sauce, I also add a bit of grated parmesan cheese for flavouring.
With regard to your second link (which was very educational), there were two points of intrigue in the article:-
1. The article seems to suggest that a lot of the cheeses in America are ‘processed cheese’?
We do have processed cheese in the UK, but only a limited range, it’s mainly either spreadable like butter, or sold as cheese slices. I also noted that processed cheese is often used in the American version of mac and cheese bought in shops or restaurants, whereas in the UK real cheese is always used!
2. The article seems to show that ‘all’ macaroni sold in America is sold in boxes or tins?
I’ve never seen macaroni sold in boxes in the UK ‘all’ macaroni is sold in bags – I wonder why the stark difference packaging?
The above two points got me thinking, and after a bit of digging found this – which is in line with comparisons of other food products USA vs UK e.g. in the UK natural colouring, natural flavouring and natural preservatives are always used in processed food, to comply with UK food laws:-
USA vs UK Kraft Mac-n-Cheese https://youtu.be/6DfYhldeZpk
I also found this video below - made by an American living in Britain who compares American cheeses with British cheeses, giving valuable into and history on both cultures, and actually (at about 11 minutes into the video) answered some of the questions I raised above:
UK vs USA CHEESE Differences https://youtu.be/Jwis7KIJCpw?si=T3nIZwq … &t=123
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