Non-compete contracts: something only true Republicans can love

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  1. Credence2 profile image78
    Credence2posted 8 weeks ago

    Just one example of exploitation of labor by corporate capitalists that I have warned about before. Living in Hawaii for a time, much of that was common and it is what I consider a dirty trick. It is high time that this  practice gets confronted. Conservatives love to screw the little guy, they speak of free markets and open trade that benefits the capitalists. They speak of the right to work status generally against unions and organized labor, again benefitting greedy capitalists. But where is the right not to be screwed by the capitalists who wants to reduce employees rights and employment options to a stage not far above slavery?

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/federal- … 7f7bf4d211

    In case you don't like Huffpost, here is the account from CBS News.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ftc-noncom … ement-ban/

    I've said my piece,
    Your thoughts..?

    1. wilderness profile image93
      wildernessposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      "But where is the right not to be screwed by the capitalists who wants to reduce employees rights and employment options to a stage not far above slavery?"

      Stripped of your gross exaggeration it is where it always was and should be; in the feet of the employee.  You don't like a job, walk away!  Quit whining and crying that you can't do it; just put one foot in front of another until you are somewhere else.

      1. Credence2 profile image78
        Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

        Yes, they are free to move now, without reprisal...

        The application of successful Right cross on the rightwing is a always something to celebrate.

        1. wilderness profile image93
          wildernessposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

          And the demands that the Left always control everything (like private contracts between consenting adults) is always something to fight.

          1. Credence2 profile image78
            Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

            Not every agreement between labor and management is legal even if consensual, you should know that by reviewing laws in that regard.

            I guess management can create whatever contract they want, but non-competes have been rendered not enforceable anywhere, that is good enough for me.

            1. wilderness profile image93
              wildernessposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

              Absolutely!  Criminals and crooks abound...and they are not always (or even mostly) on the side of management.

              The only problem I have with the FTC ruling is that we once more have unelected committees making and enforcing laws.  Not the way it is supposed to be.

              1. Credence2 profile image78
                Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                "The only problem I have with the FTC ruling is that we once more have unelected committees making and enforcing laws.  Not the way it is supposed to be."

                Perhaps...

      2. Kathleen Cochran profile image76
        Kathleen Cochranposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

        Wilderness: "Just walk away." You make it sound so easy. If it was, they would.

    2. Sharlee01 profile image88
      Sharlee01posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      I find myself pondering why there seems to be such a strong bias reflected in your title concerning this specific issue.  Here is a bit of food for thought.

      04/23/24  - Will Congress pass a bill to ban noncompete agreements?

      "Congress has not given the FTC explicit authority to ban noncompetes, though there have been several bipartisan bills introduced to reform noncompete agreements.
      "Sens. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), Todd Young (R-Ind.), Tim Kaine (D-Va.) and Kevin Kramer (R-N.D.) have introduced the Workforce Mobility Act, which limits the use of noncompete agreements. Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Maggie Hassan (D-N.H.) have also introduced the Freedom to Compete Act.20 hours ago"

      “If we want to continue to grow our economy, we must protect and empower American workers,” Kaine said after the vote.

      “I’m glad the Federal Trade Commission is taking this step to ban non-compete agreements, which stifle wage growth, hinder job mobility, and make it harder for businesses to hire talent. This will expand job opportunities for more Americans, increase wages, promote innovation, and support our country’s economic growth,” Kaine said."
      https://thehill.com/business/4616169-ft … 0Murphy%20(D%2D,the%20Freedom%20to%20Compete%20Act.
      Note the R by the names of some that are backing the bill.

      July 15, 2021  Sponsor:    Sen. Rubio, Marco [R-FL] (Introduced 07/15/2021)
      S.2375 - Freedom To Compete Act --  To amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to prevent employers from using non-compete agreements in employment contracts for certain non-exempt employees.

      Feb 9, 2023  Sponsor: Sen. Rubio, Marco [R-FL] (Introduced 02/09/2023)
      S.379 - Freedom To Compete Act of 20232023 -  To amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to prevent employers from using non-compete agreements in employment contracts for certain non-exempt employees.
      https://www.rubio.senate.gov/rubio-hass … greements/

      Rubio has worked to amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to prevent employers from using non-compete agreements in employment contracts for certain non-exempt employees.

      1. Credence2 profile image78
        Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

        I find these agreement to be a loathsome practice, that should be associated only with research and development, not making sub sandwiches.

        As long as I get rid of it, I am open to any and all solutions.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image88
          Sharlee01posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

          Cred, I did not share my view on the bill that Congress has offered, which much agrees with your view to ban noncompetes. I also support the bipartisan bill.  Not sure you needed to use this title -- "Non-compete contracts: something only true Republicans can love"

          You know this truely shows a bias. I am a Republican, and as I said, I support the bill. Does pointing the finger so clearly not deepen a divide?

          Does what I offered not go to show you that Congress has worked in a bipartisan fashion together on the bill that would address  Non-compete contracts?

          1. Credence2 profile image78
            Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

            Yes, your information gave me pause to stand back, but  dont forget in the FTC vote 3 Democrats were for it  and 2 republicans were against due to technicalities. Republicans generally are instinctly against working class people and that reflex is why the two Republicans on the board voted against it.

            I still believe the Republicans and their embrace of corporate capitalism will prove to be the only source of resistance to the change if any.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image88
              Sharlee01posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

              I can agree certainly, capitalism holds significant appeal for some Republicans. In my view, due to its alignment with principles such as individual freedom, economic efficiency, and the promotion of innovation.

              For instance, I argue that capitalism encourages entrepreneurship by providing incentives for individuals to take risks and start businesses, which in turn drives economic growth and creates jobs.

              Republicans tend to appreciate the importance of competition in capitalism, believing it leads to lower prices, higher quality goods and services, and greater consumer choice for all.  These are just a couple of reasons why capitalism resonates strongly with the Republican ideology.

              Have you ever considered the importance of successful businesses? They're the backbone of our economy. Without them, where would we be? Would we have the multitude of job opportunities crucial for national growth, contributing to a high standard of living akin to that enjoyed by many in the US? I fail to comprehend anyone opposing capitalism. I simply can't envision our nation without it. From my perspective, capitalism has shaped us into one of the most innovative, prosperous nations on Earth.

              1. Credence2 profile image78
                Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                Fine, but outside all of the "great things"we don't want an alignment with the exploitation of labor, no one should be protecting Capitalism in support of that.

                I am not against capitalism per se, but I am against excesses and abuse as a part of it.
                And the use of non-compete contract in regards to employees who flip burgers is an example of that abuse.

                1. Sharlee01 profile image88
                  Sharlee01posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                  While capitalism has its share of abuses, our country has undoubtedly gained from it. Moreover, we've navigated challenges like forming unions and implementing numerous federal laws and regulations that businesses must adhere to. However, it's important to acknowledge that each of these issues also carries its own set of problems.

                  We can work  for perfect, while enjoying some of the perks of capitalism.

                  1. Credence2 profile image78
                    Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                    But if you notice, no one was threatening Capitalism, more like directing attention to an unfair practice which is a part of it. Look how Republicans act as if all of Capitalism is threatened by just reining one abhorrent practice. They all line up quickly to defend the indefensible and serve the capitalist masters and the rights of working people be damned.

                    A larger percentage  of MY people are part of that working class. This is just one example of many why Republicans receive little support from our community as they always take the wrong side in regards to issues like this.

                2. wilderness profile image93
                  wildernessposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                  I have never heard of a non-compete clause for a burger flipper (or a sub maker).  Heck, I've never heard of a signed contract for a burger flipper!

                  Does that really happen (examples, please) or is just gross exaggeration?

                  1. Credence2 profile image78
                    Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                    There was a case involving the Jimmy John's franchise that used such agreements in regards to its employees. Was there a need to protect proprietary processes and procedures unique to Jimmy John's in the preparation of sub sandwiches?

                    It was in the initial linked article that I provided.

                    No exaggeration....

 
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