Government Control of Your Vehicle: Fact or Conspiracy Theory

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   GA Andersonposted 9 months ago

   'Congress passed the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which includes $17 billion toward auto safety . . .   . . . a mandate requires automakers to install new technology in vehicles to prevent motorists from driving intoxicated. As reported by the  Associated Press , with the provision, Congress is pushing for the monitoring systems to begin rolling out in new vehicles no later than 2026.'
   
   In short, there is a Federal requirement for a detection system to monitor drivers' actions—relative to driving while intoxicated. It appears the type of system hasn't been decided, yet. (?)
   
   What has been decided is: (outlining, not detailing) that the government will have access to the monitoring data, and, the system will have the ability and authority to restrict the vehicle's actions — a 'Kill switch'
   
   With a nod to the China social credit digital control 'conspiracy' threads . . .
   
   My first thought was, "I didn't know that." After watching this John Stossel clip, my next thought was that I really didn't know that.
   
   
   GA

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      Credence2posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      I don’t know that I would like this, sounds a bit too invasive for me.
      
      I don’t trust information coming from the “X files”, but this confirms it for me.
      
      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/tec … m-congress
      
      I bet that the only reason Republicans got on board with the bill is because it allowed them to actually monitor sexual activity of passengers within the “new vehicles”.

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         GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

         It must have been tough when 'your' source confirmed an "X"
         file."
         
         Of all possible angles, why would voyeurism be the first to come to your mind?
         
         Until the monitoring system is detailed there will be tons of speculation. But as you say, it's a troubling thing for at least one Progressive mind. The troubling thing for a Conservative mind is the potential for governmental abuse, a la The Twitter files—which are a real and documented thing, even though they did come from the X Files.
         
         China uses Social Credit to control citizen action, Canada used financial banking actions to control its trucking citizens, and now there is governmental control of your vehicle as a USl tool.
         
         It is not a strain to imagine this as a real worry, not just a conspiracy theory.
         
         GA

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            Credence2posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            It must have been tough when 'your' source confirmed an "X"
            file."
            
            Yes, GA, it was tough, but I can be convinced as I am in this situation that you brought to our attention.
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            Of all possible angles, why would voyeurism be the first to come to your mind?
            
            Why not, somewhere in the video someone mentioned it? When you consider the Right’s obsession with what people do in their bedroom, would that obsession extended to their mode of transportation be so much out of line? Unreasonable surveillance of women regarding their reproductive choices as we have seen over the last few months, I put nothing past them.
            But for the most part, the comment was a facetious one.
            
            
            
            “The troubling thing for a Conservative mind is the potential for governmental abuse, a la The Twitter files—which are a real and documented thing, even though they did come from the X Files.”
            
            Strange as it might seem, that is troubling for Progressive minds as well for much of the same reasons.
            
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            “It is not a strain to imagine this as a real worry, not just a conspiracy theory.”
            
            I am as upset about the prospect as you are, GA. I just have to prove to myself that this was not just another conspiracy theory…

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      tsmogposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Wow! Beyond interesting heading toward the thought what the imagination can conjure today can be reality tomorrow while remembering anything can be regulated by the government pretty much limited only by the courts, right?
      
      I don't make the connection with social credit system of China other than the talk of surveillance, but then again I will plead ignorance while my imagination is limited this morning. Yet, I will do a little wandering seeking gold nuggets. So, I offer my apology now.
      
      They already have the ignition interlock device used for people with a DUI in order to start the car. It is queued with the use of a breath analyzer of some type. Thirty-one states and DC use them today.
      
      But, the clip shared 'impaired' drivers while remembering marijuana use could be construed as impaired. What of that, I ask?
      
      From the National Conference of State Legislatures comes those state laws in table format if curious. I see California my state uses them as well as Idaho, Maryland, Michigan, and Florida of us usual posters. The distinction seems to be how many offenses if required to be installed or not.
      
      State Ignition Interlock Laws (Mar 14, 2024)
      https://www.ncsl.org/transportation/sta … rlock-laws
      
      That leaves me with what type of device will be used with the mandate proposed for auto manufacturers for 2026 models. Also, I am leery with some of information provided in the clip you shared. What caught my attention was limiting the speed of a car when traveling by some means. The other was shutting the vehicle off if there is some suspicious driving occurring. How, I ponder, would that be done.
      
      All I can say is I don't own a smart phone, so I am not being monitored by that technology. My car is a 2007, so again I am not being monitored with today's vehicle technology having parallels with the smart phone. I have in my mind to get an early 60's car again and would probably use that more than my 2007.
      
      User Beware: Your Smartphone Is Tracking Your Every Move by the State of New Jersey
      https://www.cyber.nj.gov/guidance-and-b … every-move
      
      You can do a search of what about your car, thus you, is monitored via the car's computer system and what law enforcement can get when running your plates. Remember cars can be located ever since GM introduced their OnStar system back in 1996.
      
      I suppose I am open to being monitored with my PC, yet I always assure myself of VPN usage and definitely have my camera lens blocked. My TV doesn't have a speaker or camera, yet I am sure the data of usage is collected by my cable company, though I only have basic cable and never stream via Wi-fi. My cable company provides my phone, internet, and TV service all with live data to be collected.
      
      And, my grocery store knows everything I purchase and they are also my pharmacy. I get reward points from both and the key is my phone number for my accounting. What amazed me is at the first of the year I had to switch medical groups. The new one easily accessed my records from the former one of some 20+ years even with just going to my first primary care visit. No one asked me for permission, so I presume I gave permission somewhere with the digital mumbo-jumbo when I switched them. I have access to download my medical records, yet they are in the gigabytes of info. Wow!
      
      Don't forget everything we do online is open to monitoring.
      
      A little history. I first became aware of monitoring back about '75. My best friend from high school went into the Army Security Agency (ASA). The ASA is attached to the NSA. They interviewed me for him to get his clearance just after graduating high school in '72. in '75 I was busted for marijuana and almost immediately his clearance was removed, even though he was in Berlin at the time. I was in California. His clearance was restored after my court case was adjudicated. Ever since then I made myself aware of my privacy vs. being monitored, yet there is so much of it today, how to limit privacy from being invaded is a mystery, right?

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   Venkatachari Mposted 9 months ago

   The "Big Brother" is watching you, me, and everyone else. Every day, he gets equipped with new software and hardware technology updates. I think the term "Big Brother" came into existence through George Orwell's 1984. Though, I am not quite aware of these things.

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   Sharlee01posted 9 months ago

   I did a bit of research and found that a form of this technology is already available in some cars. For instance, several manufacturers are implementing advanced driver-assistance systems (ADAS) that include features like breath alcohol detection and camera-based monitoring systems.
   
   While the specific DADSS technology is still in development and the regulatory phases, there are valid privacy concerns regarding how these systems might collect and use personal data.
   
   In my view, it's pretty much a given that the internet has already compromised privacy. We seem to have stepped well beyond the line of worrying about data being shared in many respects. The pervasive nature of online tracking, data collection by various companies, and even government surveillance has made it challenging to maintain any semblance of privacy.
   
   I feel like I don’t have any control over what gets added to our automobiles, and this feeling extends to other areas of my life as well. For example, I find it frustrating that we have little say in things about what gender uses restrooms, or even the regulations around something as simple as shower heads.
   
   The decisions are made at higher levels without any direct input from individuals, and this can lead to a sense of helplessness. I think many people share similar concerns about the increasing regulation and surveillance in our daily lives, which can feel imposed rather than chosen.

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