Trump Proposes Fund for Victims of Migrant Crime

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   Sharlee01posted 5 weeks ago

   
   In a bold move aimed at addressing the growing concerns surrounding crime linked to migrants in the United States, former President Donald Trump has announced a plan to create a compensation fund for families who have suffered at the hands of criminal migrants. With an estimated 6 million migrants now residing in the country, many of whom have been released from detention despite having serious criminal backgrounds, the issue has become increasingly pressing. Reports indicate that some of these individuals have committed heinous acts, including murder and rape, inflicting trauma on innocent American families.
   
   Trump's proposal centers around establishing a dedicated fund to provide financial support and resources to victims' families. The fund would aim to alleviate some of the burdens these families face as they navigate the aftermath of violent crimes committed by individuals who should not have been in the country in the first place. By creating this fund, Trump hopes to hold accountable not only the criminals but also the systems that have allowed such dangerous individuals to enter and remain in the U.S.
   
   In his announcement, Trump emphasized the need for immediate action, stating that the safety of American citizens must be a top priority. He condemned the current administration's handling of immigration, arguing that the release of migrants with horrific criminal records poses a significant threat to public safety. Trump's compensation fund aims to ensure that victims and their families receive justice and support in the wake of these crimes.

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      wildernessposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      Bad move.  I understand we want to help them.  I understand we have caused the problem as a country and are responsible for much of the crime from illegal aliens.
      
      But this will end up demonizing the Hispanic race and we will have demands for reparations any time any Hispanic, no matter if tenth generation American, commits a crime.

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         Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         At his recent rally,  Trump announced a plan to establish a fund to compensate American families affected by crimes committed by illegal migrants. He made it clear that the fund would apply broadly to victim's families.  We need to recognize that illegal migrants entering from numerous countries.
         
         It’s unlikely that American Hispanics would oppose helping families who have lost loved ones due to criminal acts by illegal migrants. Trump’s proposed fund is specifically designated for families who have been directly affected by crimes committed by individuals here illegally, regardless of the offender's race or nationality. This approach focuses on aiding victims without targeting any particular ethnicity, aiming solely to address the impact on families harmed by unlawful activity.

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            Willowarborposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            Why not just address the immigration system? You know,  the actual laws?
            
            Makes no sense.  So if the native-born hoodlum down the street decides he wants to rob my house I can't get a government pay out?  Not fair.   Only victims of so-called "migrant crime "deserve compensation? 
            
            What are the stats on crimes committed by migrants versus our homegrown criminals?

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               Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

               Addressing the immigration system is certainly important, but focusing on compensation for victims of crimes committed by illegal migrants can raise awareness about the consequences of ineffective immigration policies while providing immediate relief to those who have suffered. It’s vital to recognize that crimes committed by individuals who enter the country illegally often involve different legal and social dynamics, making it crucial to address the unique challenges they present to public safety. The notion that only victims of so-called “migrant crime” deserve compensation overlooks these complexities. While compensation for all crime victims is a worthy goal, specifically addressing migrant crime can highlight the urgent need for more robust immigration enforcement and victim support.
               
               Regarding statistics, while some studies indicate that migrants commit crimes at lower rates than native-born individuals, this does not diminish the real experiences of those victimized by migrant-related offenses. The narrative around migrant crime often focuses on serious or violent incidents, which can disproportionately affect communities. Therefore, it’s essential to consider not just overall crime rates but also the specific incidents that impact victims and their families. This calls for a tailored response and support for those affected. In summary, addressing victim compensation for crimes committed by illegal migrants does not preclude discussions about the immigration system or native-born crime; rather, it underscores the need for a multifaceted approach that considers public safety, victim rights, and effective policy reform.
               
               In my view,   the bottom line is that if a migrant commits a violent crime and is in this country due to the government's failure to effectively manage a pressing and dangerous problem, we have a responsibility to support the families who have suffered as a result. The current administration's policies have allowed criminals to enter the nation without adequate vetting or the necessary infrastructure to detain them until they can be deported. This neglect has led to tragic consequences for innocent victims. By providing compensation and support for these families, we acknowledge the role of poor governance in creating these circumstances and emphasize the need for better immigration policies and enforcement to prevent future tragedies.

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                  Willowarborposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                  'The current administration's policies have allowed criminals to enter the nation without adequate vetting or the necessary infrastructure to detain them until they can be deported."
                  
                  But those policies and  facilities though haven't changed... Literally like in decades.   So if the policies and facilities stay the same, due to Congressional deadlock, what's the point of giving money to victims?   
                  
                  Migrants statistically commit crimes at a much lower rate than our own citizens... They don't want to be deported.. I know, shocker.
                  
                  This plan just really has no substance or benefit in my eyes.   It misses the mark in addressing the real issues. 
                  
                  I do believe The bipartisan border bill offered enhanced vetting.

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                     Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                     Pointing out that many Americans commit crimes doesn’t address the separate and serious issue of illegal migrants with known criminal backgrounds being allowed into the country. It’s not a fair comparison, nor does it excuse the government’s failure to enforce basic immigration laws to keep violent offenders out. When our government admits that it knew these individuals had violent crime records but claimed they had "nowhere to detain them" and released them anyway, it’s a clear failure of responsibility.
                     
                     There’s no excuse for this level of government ineptness. The safety of American communities should never be compromised because of bureaucratic shortcomings or a lack of resources to detain dangerous individuals. If we have vetting systems in place, they should be followed strictly to protect citizens—not disregarded when it’s inconvenient. Comparing crime statistics between Americans and illegal migrants misses this point entirely: violent criminals who should have been denied entry or detained were instead knowingly let into the country. For those of us concerned with community safety, this isn’t just a minor oversight; it’s a preventable threat that deserves serious accountability.

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                        Willowarborposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                        "When our government admits that it knew these individuals had violent crime records but claimed they had "nowhere to detain them" and released them anyway, it’s a clear failure of responsibility."
                        
                        But these people aren't admissible? They can be deported immediately.
                        
                        
                        Asylum applicants who are found to pose a danger to the United States, who have committed a “particularly serious crime,” or who persecuted others themselves, are barred from asylum.
                        
                        Are there issues with the vetting at the border? Absolutely. Is anyone interested in actually making changes? Doesn't seem like it.  Giving money to victims of certain crimes does nothing to tighten up the vetting process.

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                           Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                           The following are 13 Americans who have lost their lives at the hands of illegal aliens in the past 12 months.
                           
                           https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/07/06/ … 12-months/
                           
                           ver the past 12 months, illegal aliens have been arrested in connection with the deaths of at least 13 Americans. Seven of those victims were minors.
                           
                           “The simple fact is that every crime committed by an illegal alien is one committed by an individual who should not have been at large in the country in the first place,” House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Rep. Mark Green told The Daily Signal.
                           
                           “While the Left likes to hide behind flawed studies and incomplete data on illegal alien crime, families across our country are suffering from the tragic realities of President [Joe] Biden and Secretary [Alejandro] Mayorkas’ open borders,” said Green, R-Tenn.
                           
                           The growing number of American lives lost at the hands of illegal immigrants coincides with an increase in the number of criminal illegal immigrants crossing America’s borders annually.
                           
                           According to Customs and Border Protection, 13,130 criminal noncitizens were encountered between ports of entry since the start of fiscal year 2024 on Oct. 1, setting up fiscal 2024 to outpace last year’s 15,267 such encounters.
                           
                           “Instead of enforcing the laws they swore to uphold, Biden and Mayorkas have devoted themselves to a policy of mass catch-and-release,” Green said. “This radical agenda may excite their far-left base, but the rest of us are left wondering if one of our loved ones will be the next to fall victim to these violent crimes.”
                           
                           All 13 follow in article

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                              Willowarborposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                              Isn't this a reason to change the vetting policies?

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                                 Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                                 No. The vetting policies are strict for a reason. Its called securing the border to defend the nation against people who would hurt the citizens and the nation. It's called having a country.
                                 Got Country?

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               wildernessposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

               "Why not just address the immigration system? You know,  the actual laws?"
               
               Because Congress refuses to do so.  And yes, I know they cobbled a way to get citizenship to more people, making them legal and it was turned down.
               
               "What are the stats on crimes committed by migrants versus our homegrown criminals?"
               
               Does it matter?  When our government intentionally and purposefully lets illegals in (or makes special rules making it "legal") the blame for any harm they cause, whether a little or a lot, belongs to all of us.

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                  Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                  " the blame for any harm they cause, whether a little or a lot, belongs to all of us."
                  
                  How so? We elected Joe Biden with the assumption that he would defend the country against invasion and domestic violence for every state as stated in the Constitution, Article IV section 4. We trusted hm to do so.
                  What did HE do?
                  
                  Go against OUR wishes!
                  
                  Section 4 Republican Form of Government: 
                  "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

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            wildernessposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            Shar, I understand what Trump is trying to do, I understand what you are saying and I fully agree with you...but people are not rational.  They make decisions based on bias, on hate, on racism. 
            
            And as more and more people get compensation, more and more will become more and more angry about...well, you know as well as I do that the majority of illegal aliens in this country are Hispanic.  You know what race will be blamed for all of it.
            
            And then you have the people harmed by a Hispanic.  That the perpetrator is a third generation American won't matter; they want reparations.  After all, people are getting reparations for what was done to someone else 10 generations ago, don't you know?  And they want theirs, too.
            
            It sounds wonderful, but I just do not see it working through the innate problems without causing more harm than help.

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      abwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      Hi Shar, I have mixed feelings about this one. I get that he has met with many families of victims, and I am sure it tears at his heart in wanting to do something to help them!! At the same time, this isn't the role of the Federal Government.  I don't  mean to sound heartless, and I know that I must sound like a broken record, but there are churches, organizations, etc. which assist families in these matters!
      If Trump announced that he had a way for Mexico or Venezuela or Columbia's Governments to compensate the families whom have been victimized by criminals that these Government's intentionally pawned off on us, I would be all over that.

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         Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         Hi Angie, first, I am hopeful if Trump wins he will fix our border problem or at least make things better.  I have faith he will work his butt off trying to solve all the problems that have occurred under Biden and come up with solutions to the problems of the millions of illegal migrants that are here that may not belong here.
         
         Normally, I’d agree with you. But after thinking it over, I believe that families who’ve lost loved ones to crimes committed by illegal migrants wouldn’t have suffered such losses if it weren’t for our poorly managed government policies. As you know, I hold this administration responsible for the historic influx of migrants, many of whom were inadequately vetted. Our government even admitted that known criminals were allowed in simply because there was nowhere to detain them.
         
         To me, that makes the government directly responsible for the deaths caused by these criminals. It’s the government's duty to take all necessary measures to keep Americans safe, and this administration has failed on a historic level. Yes, migrant crime existed before, but this administration’s policies have led to unprecedented levels of migrant-related crime.
         
         Trump has actually proposed a unique way to fund support for these families—using funds seized from cartel activities. Each year, billions are confiscated from cartels, and this could be a unique way to fund the program while hoping that, in time, those funds wouldn’t be needed.
         
         The U.S. seizes billions of dollars in assets annually from drug cartels and other criminal organizations. In 2022, for example, the Department of Justice reported that it had confiscated over $1.5 billion in assets, which included cash, property, vehicles, and other valuable items obtained through criminal activities.
         
         I just see this issue as one that this administration has caused to get far worse than it has ever been. Leaving many families suffering, even to pay for funerals. Let alone children left motherless or fatherless.

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            abwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            Seized money from cartels, from here, from there (as I touched on) would be the only way to make it work, perhaps that's his plan?!

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               Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

               It's what he made mention of when he brought it up.

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                  abwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Oh I thought a non-woke comedian  was the only one to speak at MSG!
                  
                  Thus far, I have only watched parts of the big event.

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      tsmogposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      Sounds like more gaslighting and a socialist program. Then again, what do I know.

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         Sharlee01posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         You’re absolutely right; it does sound like more gaslighting and a move toward a program. However, it’s important to recognize that Trump has a history of making genuine efforts to keep his promises, even in the face of a deadlocked Congress. He has consistently sought creative solutions to address the needs of American families.
         
         In my view, Trump understands the struggles of ordinary Americans and aims to offer tangible support where he can.  His proposal to provide funds to families impacted by such crime demonstrates his commitment to protecting citizens and ensuring their well-being.
         
         While the political landscape can often complicate these efforts, Trump has shown resilience and determination in finding unique ways to deliver on his promises, whether through executive actions or by rallying public support. It’s this drive to follow through on commitments that distinguishes him and keeps him focused on the needs of the people, regardless of the obstacles he faces in Washington.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks ago

   Since the government is lax on the border and works against the border patrols' responsibility to defend the border, the government is responsible for the harm the illegal aliens commit once they sneak across the border. Providing compensation "to ensure that victims and their families receive justice and support in the wake of these crimes" is very simply the fairest thing to do. End of story.

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