Keeping up with Trump's Rapid Release of Policies and Appointments

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   peoplepower73posted 2 months ago

   There is a reason he has made so many executive orders and appointments in his first days as president and it is not what it appears to be. If we go behind the scenes, we will find The Heritage Foundation that created Project 2025, Steve Bannon a long time Trump advisor, and Stephen Miller, his Deputy Chief of Staff all working to use two strategies: “flood the Zone and muzzle velocity”.
   
   The purpose of these strategies are to confuse and saturate the democrats and main stream media with so much rapid fire policies and procedures that the “opposition” can’t focus on more than one issue at a time. Here is what Steve Bannon said about his strategy when interviewed by PBS Front Line..:
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   "And all we have to do is flood the zone," Bannon said. "Every day we hit them with three things, they'll bite on one, and we'll get all of our stuff done. Bang, bang, bang. These guys will never—will never be able to recover. But we've got to start with muzzle velocity. So it's got to start, and it's got to hammer," he continued before being cut off.".
   
   A Vox article from 2020, explained "flooding the zone" as also meaning contaminating the information ecosystem with misinformation expressly to create confusion and distrust between the audience and the news media.
   
   With this strategy, we never know from one day to the next what this administration is going to say or do. I believe we all have a human need for certainty, but we can forget it with this administration. Here is my source.
   
   https://www.newsweek.com/steve-bannon-f … tz-2027482

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      Kyler J Falkposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I have never, not once in history, seen the media (media meaning the majority of consumer media meant to deliver news, not exceptions to the rule not widely consumed) counter this strategy. In fact, no matter the source of information, they fan the flames of confusion based on who funds their programming.
      
      Blaming any one administration, current or former, is disingenuous and taking part in the same muckraking and flooding the zone that inspired the original concern.
      
      Every administration since I've been conscious of the world around me (since Clinton), and even further any administration with thorough media documentation, has faced the accusation of misusing and overusing EOs. Every single administration has been accused of muckraking and flooding the zone in some way by their adversaries (perhaps in different terminology at different times).
      
      These buzz phrases are a clever game that never ends, and for some reason the general population eats it up like free hot cakes.

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         peoplepower73posted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Let me remind you it's not the media or their audience that came up with those buzz words.  It was Steve Bannon.  And Trump and company are applying those strategies as smoke screens to get their dirty work done behind the scenes. Other administrations have used EOs, but not to the extent of Trump on day one and continuing to use them everyday.
         
         Thanks for dropping by.

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            Kyler J Falkposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Plenty of presidents widely outpaced Trump both in average and overall EOs issued. For those who didn't, like any administration, they were mired in their own controversies dredged up by adversaries. This is politics as a whole, a game I don't see changing for the better any time soon.
            
            https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statist … ive-orders
            
            As it concerns terminology, who invented it, and how it evolves, that seems like a line of logic that we would only follow down the rabbit hole if we wanted to perpetuate the exact problem you expressed in your original concern. It's a pattern repeated by every administration and media outlet ever to exist.
            
            Do we only care about the problem in the scope that it is Trump's admin this time around, or do we recognize that this is an issue of strategic creation utilized by power players and rebranded through the years to remain palatable?
            
            What is the end goal of honing in on a universal, concerning issue that could easily be countered by the media, but isn't, and only apply it to the narrow scope of one administration repeating a winning equation of actions taken time and time again by every other partaker?
            
            I'm lost as to the goal of the discussion unless further flooding the zone and muzzle velocity are the goal? As is, the way this is being presented seems like that meme where Spiderman is pointing at Spiderman, and they are both accusing one another of being Spiderman.
            
            Simplify it for a simple man such as myself, preferably down to the mutual conclusion you'd like to be made and we can go from there to reach the  clarity we almost never see from our leaders and news sources.

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               peoplepower73posted 2 months agoin reply to this

               I can keep this very simple.  You are using the ploy of what aboutsim. What about all the other presidents who lied and used executive orders for their own benefit? What about all the media outlets that are only concerned about getting paid for commercials?
               
               It's not just about the number of executive orders other president have used.  It's about the strategy that is being used to flood the media and people with so many decoy issues that they can't focus on the underlying real issues that Trump and company are trying to covertly push through. Why else would they be using smoke screens?
               
               In Trump's first term. he lied and misinformed over 30,000 documented times? Oh that's O.K. all presidents lie and misinform. Do you get the picture now?
               
               Steve Bannon served in the Navy on the destroyer USS Paul F. Foster as a surface warfare officer in the Pacific Fleet, and afterwards as a special assistant to the chief of naval operations at the Pentagon.
               
               More than likely, "flood the zone and muzzle velocity" are terms that he learned in the Navy, just like in Trump's first term, he said by the time Trump is elected president again, he will be Battle Hardened.
               
               I can't make our conclusions mutual, but my conclusion is that Trump is a master con-artist who suffers from extreme narcissism. Almost every person he has appointed in his cabinet is not qualified to be in that position.  The only reason they are there is because they have kissed Trump's ring.
               
               Elon Musk by his own admission, says he suffers from Asperger's syndrome and sees things and reacts differently to issues than most people do. But he came bearing gifts to Trump.
               
               If you really are interested in our mutual conclusion, you have to understand what my values beliefs are and I have to understand yours...maybe group therapy will work.
               
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                  Kyler J Falkposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  I disagree with the whataboutism statement, as I feel like you're addressing a concerning, universally practiced tactic but undermining it by tying it specifically to Trump and his admin and I had to address the different facets you presented equally. We could alternately call flooding the zone and muzzle velocity by other time-specific, contrived colloquialisms, "newspeak, propaganda, indoctrination, inculcation, promotion, proselytism, publicity, advertising, ballyhoo, hype, brainwashing, red herrings, subterfuge...."  It'd be more effective for your stated desire to just outright say and leave it at:
                  
                  "Trump and company are master con-artists who suffer from extreme narcissism, here is why, and let's poop on them...."
                  
                  I'd also add that the Trump admin has done nothing positive for me and my people short of one specific policy change, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. The correlation being made with the tactics, however, seems counterintuitive when we can point the same accusing finger in every which direction accurately. Applying it to one person or group is, by all appearances, disingenuous and a disservice to constructive dialogue on the issue itself and the problems created by the specific people you have mentioned.
                  
                  I suppose I am at a loss for the underlying goal here if it isn't simply to poop on Trump and his admin. Could be done with much more brevity, and I'd still question the point of it.
                  
                  I'd find it more fascinating and even more productive to discuss how we could go about promoting the widespread countering of these tactics, and how that would benefit the human need for clarity that you mentioned earlier. I felt I was matching your perspective while also presenting what I felt would be a much more productive conversation surrounding the stated topic, but I appreciate the explanation no less and now have a better understanding.

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                     peoplepower73posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                     You are right I didn't mean to use "Trump and Company."  I was really talking about Trump himself as a master con-artist who is suffering from extreme narcissism.
                     
                     Also I should have mentioned that Musk, by his own admission, suffers from Asperger's syndrome..  I don't know what JFK  Jr. is suffering from, but I just know I can't understand what he saying most of the time.
                     
                     I didn't mention human clarity.  I mentioned the human need for certainty.  With Trump, one doesn't know what the next day will bring. Hence, flooding the zone and muzzle velocity..
                     
                     From your replies, I can't tell which side of the fence you are on, But I am open for further discussion with you.
                     
                     Thanks for catching my error.

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                        wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                        The human need for certainty is an interesting thought.  As adults we do thrive in an unchanging world...but actually live in one that changes constantly.  Children are happy there, but somewhere along the line we lose that ability and spend our lives crying for "the old days" even as we do better in the "new" days.
                        
                        Change is a constant in our lives.  Today peace, tomorrow a wildfire that takes our home.  Our car dies the day after and then rains end the drought and wash away what the fires left.  Activists demand we accept that pretending to change our sex actually works and politicians change our most basic social structures to accommodate a handful that want something different.
                        
                        Change is inevitable; Trump is merely one more in centuries of change.  Personally, I like much (not all) of what he is changing, and will fight against what I don't like, but have to accept that change IS going to happen.

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                           peoplepower73posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                           You are right, change is the only constant in nature and it is survival by those who best can adapt to changes in nature. 
                           
                           What I was talking about is changes in our government on a daily basis.  We don't know from one day to the next what kind of policies are created or agencies they are going to shut down, especially when flooding the zone and muzzle velocity are used as decoys to distract us from what is really going on..
                           
                           In my view, Trump and company are trying to destroy our democratic republic that this nation was founded on. That is not the kind of change that we need to adapt to. 
                           
                           Trump voters have bought a pig in a poke and had no idea what Trump and his minions of happy misfits were going to do or what they were really about. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for them to realize what's really in the bag they bought... Long live King Trump.

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                              wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                              Not sure why you, or anyone else, thinks it is changing by the day.  Trump WILL get rid of illegal aliens.  He WILL cut unnecessary costs with government, and that includes payroll. 
                              
                              That you think the change is to destroy the basis of our country makes me think you believe that we have unlimited resources and can simply print all the money we want.  Neither is true, nor is the idea that the socialism you appear to demand will work, for it has not done so at any time in history for a large group of people.
                              
                              While I do not agree with some (actually quite a bit) of what Trump is doing, I DO recognize that our country cannot continue down the path that liberals have set it on.  Not and remain an intact country, anyway. 
                              
                              Trump's methods will hurt, but if continued they will keep the country intact instead of destroying it with bad fiscal policies, socialism and the rest of liberal social policies being forced down the throat of Americans.  They will even produce a more prosperous nation with more equality than the liberal persuasion of society could ever do.

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                                 peoplepower73posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                                 Thank you for over simplifying what Trump and his administration are doing. I feel much better now.
                                 
                                 I like the way you used your second paragraph to make it sound like I believe we have unlimited resources and can print all the money we want and I want socialism to thrive.  When in fact, I  don't believe any of that.  It's interesting how conservative can always connect liberals to socialism.  Wait until Musk privatizes your social security.
                                 
                                 I'm curious to know, what is about Trump you don't agree with? You are a gun lover.  Did you know that Trump deputized Musk's security detail because of death threats he is getting. Members of his detail are now gun totting Federal Marshall's who can shoot to kill without question.
                                 
                                 You think liberal policies are being forced down the throat of Americans? Stay tuned with MAGA.
                                 
                                 The Guardian is tracking Trump's first 100 days in office. This takes a deep dive into what Trump is doing on a daily basis, instead of your over simplification of what he is doing.
                                 
                                 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … days-guide

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                                    wildernessposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                                    "I'm curious to know, what is about Trump you don't agree with?"
                                    
                                    His comments on the Gulf, Gaza and Greenland are exceedingly foolish.  His indiscriminate firing of masses of people, without even knowing what those individuals do, is foolish.  Although he has not plainly said so, I believe that Trump is happy mixing religion (at least his own) and government.
                                    
                                    "You are a gun lover."
                                    
                                    Don't be foolish; I don't even own a gun.  I AM, however, firmly on the side of freedom and the Constitution.  I am also firmly on the opposite side of the theory that guns kill people - that the causation of our love of violence is the gun.

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                                       peoplepower73posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                                       Thank you for answering my question. We finally have something we can both agree to after all these years.
                                       
                                       I'm sorry, but it seems like every time there is a mass shooting, you always indicate that they are coming for our guns and a gun is just a scary hunk of iron. Am I wrong?

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   Willowarborposted 8 weeks ago

   Get a load of the second banana at the FBI....
   
   https://x.com/FPWellman/status/1893852875496829237
   
   
   "My entire life right now is about owning the libs. That's it." ...Dan Bongino, the new Deputy Director of the FBI...a nonpartisan position.
   
   https://x.com/EdKrassen/status/1894009887530823851
   
   Republicans spent years lying that the FBI was weaponized against them...
   
   Bongino is a conspiracy theorist &  radio show host, & Podcaster. Now he will handle day to day operations at the FBI as deputy director... But please tell us more about unqualified "DEI" hires!
   
   What a clown show. My God.

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      Willowarborposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      I am predicting that all of this is going to blow up and soon...

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   IslandBitesposted 8 weeks ago

   Ojalá it was only a clown show. Unfortunately, it is way worse than that.

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   Willowarborposted 8 weeks ago

   Tell me more about merit...
   
   Trump just fired the ultra qualified chairman of the joint Chiefs of staff and replaced him with an unqualified sycophant named Dan Caine. Dan once told trump: " I love you sir I think you're great sir I will kill for you sir." Apparently that qualifies him for the top job in the US military.
   
   Can someone explain  how Caine is qualified to be the next Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff?
   Caine has not held any of the assignments required to be chosen for this position.   It looks like these requirements will be waived... Hey, we don't need leaders we need loyalists right?
   
   Confirms my belief that getting rid of anything "DEI". is surely an effort to preserve white male mediocrity.
   
   https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-talkin … 36037.html

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      peoplepower73posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      It's interesting, this came up on my HP feed from 7 years ago. Trump and Bannon haven't changed their mission at all.  In fact, they are trying to complete it with Trump 2.0.  You have to give them credit for perseverance. Nothing has changed with them in 7 years.
      
      Trump's cabinet appointees were selected to destroy their agencies.
      I watched Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus at CPAC state the following:]
      
      "Nearly all of Trump’s cabinet choices are known mostly for despising and attacking the very Federal agencies they’ve been designated to lead. Bannon explained—in very clear language--that they weren't appointed to lead these agencies, but to destroy them:
      
      Atop Trump’s agenda, Bannon said, was the “deconstruction of the administrative state” — meaning a system of taxes, regulations and trade pacts that the president and his advisers believe stymie economic growth and infringe upon one’s sovereignty."

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         Willowarborposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

         Project 2025 has come to life. 
         
         https://www.politico.com/interactives/2 … ject-2025/

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   Willowarborposted 8 weeks ago

   With Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, and Dan Bongino heading America's top law enforcement agencies, nobody will take criminal justice seriously any more.
   
   What an absolute joke.
   
   Anyone want to sing the praises of bongino?

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   Willowarborposted 8 weeks ago

   With Bondi, Kash Patel, and Dan Bongino heading America's top law enforcement agencies, nobody will take criminal justice seriously any more.
   
   What an absolute joke.
   
   Anyone want to sing the praises of bongino?

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   Willowarborposted 8 weeks ago

   I’m sorry but this isn’t getting enough attention....
   
   When RFK Jr. was asked about a young child who died of measles in Texas, he responded “It's not unusual. We have measles outbreaks all the time.”
   
   The last time a child died of measles in the U.S. was 22 years ago, in 2003, according to the CDC.
   
   The number of confirmed measles cases reported in an outbreak in West Texas is now at 124,  Eighteen people have been hospitalized so far in the outbreak. All have been unvaccinated.
   
   And we have RFK JR at the helm... Unbelievable.  This is what happens when anti-vax propaganda goes mainstream.
   
   https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n … rcna193812

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   Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

   When unvaccinated MAGA kids start dropping from measles while all the rural hospitals which would have treated them are closed from Medicaid cuts, there will be a reckoning.
   
   We’re all “the libs” now. We don’t have to agree on much, but dead kids should be off the table, right?  Or you'll make them your collateral damage for your ideology?

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   Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

   The maga mindset.  Making America healthy again.. I toast you with a glass of raw milk!
   

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    Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

    RFK JR lies...
    
    "We are watching it,' the Health and Human Services Secretary told reporters at President Donald Trump's first cabinet meeting on Wednesday. 'There are about 20 people hospitalized, mainly for quarantine.'
    
    BUT...
    Dr. Lara Johnson at Covenant contested that characterization. “We don't hospitalize patients for quarantine purposes,”
    
    I am so sick of these liars.

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    Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

    As a measles outbreak expands in West Texas, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the health and human services secretary, on Tuesday cheered several unconventional treatments, including cod liver oil, but again did not urge Americans to get vaccinated.
    
    In a prerecorded interview that aired on Fox News, Mr. Kennedy said that the federal government was shipping doses of vitamin A to Gaines County, the epicenter of the outbreak, and helping to arrange ambulance rides.
    
    OH BROTHER
    
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/04/heal … nnedy.html

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       peoplepower73posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       Voodoo medicine.  Trump and company are screwing with the government tra la las.  They don't know what they hell they are doing and creating great uncertainty in everything they do.
       
       Elon Musk fires people and then hires them back the same day. Trump levies tariffs and then pauses them for a month on the same day he levied them.
       
       I think people are going to get burned out with this whipsawing of the markets and daily uncertainties.  Now you have a job; now you are fired, now you are hired back again.
       
       Elon Musk is a brilliant scientist, but because of his Aspergers, he is not a people person.  He is not capable of empathy, but by the same token neither is Trump. I believe Trump fakes compassion to con others for his narcissistic needs.
       
       I think the reason for this is almost all the people Trump put in office are not qualified for their jobs.  They were put there to destroy the departments they were hired for. This is all part of P2025 and Steve Bannon and Stephen Millers' plan to burn down our democratic republic and replace it with economic nationalism where the contemporary administration is torn down and rebuilt according to what Trump and company is now doing.

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    Willowarborposted 6 weeks ago

    And continuing to break things...
    
    Trump is expected to issue an executive order as soon as today aimed at abolishing the Education Department...
    
    A draft of the order, viewed by The Wall Street Journal, directs Education Secretary Linda McMahon to “take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure of the Education Department” based on “the maximum extent appropriate and permitted by law.”
    
    So the wrestler will oversee the efforts... WOW
    
    Project 2025 being carried out page by page. 
    
    https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/dra … t-5315c3a4

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    Willowarborposted 6 weeks ago

    An unvaccinated New Mexico adult who tested positive for measles has just died...
    
    Darwin remains undefeated.

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