Is Global Warming A MYTH?

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   theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

   Many European commentators are laughing at the Global Warming Thesis - is it a myth?

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      ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The theory, yes, it has been pretty much discredited.

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      LegendaryHeroposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know about about global warming itself, I believe that the earth goes through nature climate change cycles. I do believe that man-made global warming is a myth, in fact I wrote a hub on it.

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      Hokeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      yes

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      Csanadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I have done lots of research on it, and I believe that the climate is warming. However it is natural, and to think that humans cause it is not only nonsense, but even arrogant. Has anyone noticed, that those who are the biggest proponents of human made global warming, continue to drive their cars (instead of using public transportation of bicycles), and they consume just as much as before they started believing it. Kind of hypocritical, if you ask me. I also wrote a hub on it.

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   theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

   the weather certainly has not helped - this is the coldest wettest weather we have had for over half a century - maybe that is due to global warming or maybe not

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   I was expecting another acronym, but yeah the majority now seem to be leading toward the theory being a myth.
   
   Remember, around 30 years ago the environmental groups were wanting to spread this strange black carbon like substance over the ice caps.  The reason behind this? Global cooling was predicted to cool the earth to such a level that in 25 - 50 years the temperature would drop to such a level that the human race would be threatened.
   
   The earth has a varying temperature, screw it. Most scientists agree that this is probably down to this huge ******* ball of nuclear fire that is hanging in the sky, which the earth periodically moves slightly in distance to and from.

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   ledefensetechposted 14 years ago

   Weather is weather and has little to do with climate.  A fact overlooked, incidentally, by those who testified before Congress in 1997.  It was the hottest summer in a while then, and they turned off the air conditioning to the room they were testifying in.  Not exactly a reasonable way to conduct an argument, is it?  When you find out more and more about the shady ways these so-called scientists have manipulated the data and public perception, the more you want to puke. 
   
   Still the system works, it looks like real scientists are starting to speak out about the...what do they call themselves now...Anthropocentric Global Warming Criminal Cartel.
   
   http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p … uc3902.htm
   
   http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 … submission
   
   It would seem this group of scientists are treading lightly but should the emails be proven to be real, well that raises questions about the scientific accuracy of the climate center in East Anglia.  I think what these other scientists are afraid of is that it will reflect badly on science in general.  That's a foolish fear.  Show people that the scientific method works and you'll do much to restore people's faith in science.

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   A Texanposted 14 years ago

   Did you know that for the three days planes were grounded after 9/11 that the temperature on average went up 2 degrees? Seems the contrails from planes help insulate the earth from the sun!

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      ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No but I do know that in the 1930's temperatures went up when industrial production and burning of fossil fuels to power that industrial production went down.  These idiots think they're so smart.

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   Pr0metheusposted 14 years ago

   At this point, the earth is getting warmer.
   
   Is it "Global warming" or "Climate Change":  Obviously there has been a big debate over this amongst scientists, with no consensus.  I believe the majority are leaning towards natural cyclical climate change, rather than catastrophic "global warming".
   
   
   P.S. I'm super serial, guys.   Manbearpig has to be stopped!

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   ledefensetechposted 14 years ago

   Manbearpig!
   
   

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   A Texanposted 14 years ago

   http://hubpages.com/profile/manbearpig%3Dreal

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   ledefensetechposted 14 years ago

   Wow, no fans.  That's sad.

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      A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No hubs either I'd say he's stopped!

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    mikelongposted 14 years ago

    manbearpig?
    
    I see the person, but don't understand the larger reference...
    
    
    With that said, the new solar activity cycle that is beginning as we speak should have some interesting results...
    
    Sun spots are changing their polarity....something is about to heat up...

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       ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Or cool down.  Research the Maunder minimum.  Manbearpig was a part of a spoof the South Park guys did on Al Gore.  You should check it out at http://southparkstudios.com

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    TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years ago

    Contrary to popular belief, weather and climate are inextricably linked…indeed, weather is just a snapshot of the climate.
    
    From: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/noaa- … ather.html
    
    “Weather is basically the way the atmosphere is behaving, mainly with respect to its effects upon life and human activities. The difference between weather and climate is that weather consists of the short-term (minutes to months) changes in the atmosphere. Most people think of weather in terms of temperature, humidity, precipitation, cloudiness, brightness, visibility, wind, and atmospheric pressure, as in high and low pressure.
    
    In most places, weather can change from minute-to-minute, hour-to-hour, day-to-day, and season-to-season. Climate, however, is the average of weather over time and space. An easy way to remember the difference is that climate is what you expect, like a very hot summer, and weather is what you get, like a hot day with pop-up thunderstorms.”
    
    From: http://weathereye.kgan.com/cadet/climat … te_vs.html
    
    “Meteorologists record the weather every day. The constant recording of weather information helps to determine the climate of an area. 
    
    Climate is the average weather in a location over a long period of time. A place that doesn't get much rain over many years would have a dry climate. A place where it stays cold for most of the year would have a cold climate.
    
    Climate is useful for weather forecasting. It also helps determine when the best time would be for farmers to plant their crops. It could even be helpful for you and your family to plan a vacation.
    
    In other words, look out your window any day, any time and you see weather. Look out your window every day for a month or longer, observe the weather each day, and you can determine the climate.”
    
    What people don’t understand is that small changes to the Earth’s temperature may have effects that are not immediately understandable…For instance, the raise in overall temperature may melt some icecaps, which then adds water to the ocean system, which then changes current systems slightly, which then results in warm or cold currents heading someplace they wouldn’t have gone before…which then results in strange (warmer OR cooler) weather in the area where the current has gone, and sometimes storms that haven’t been there before.
    
    Climate change IS a natural part of existence, but I think it’s idiotic to think that we are having no effect on this planet. We are pouring harmful chemicals into the air, removing the filter systems (trees), and now we want to quibble over who’s making money from our destruction and call the whole problem false, when in fact we KNOW that we could be doing better things for the environment overall.
    
    I tell you what. If you think global warming and the chemicals we pour into the atmosphere are no big deal, or that we’re NOT harming the planet…Why don’t you go get your car, get into a garage, seal yourself in and turn on the car? Those fumes are harmless, really…Go for it. It won’t hurt you. Let us know how it goes.
    
    
    BTW: The above is sarcasm. Under no circumstances should anyone do what I just suggested, and for obvious reasons. The same obvious reasons that we OUGHT to pay attention to OUR PART in changing the climate.

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       A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Gee, if only the earth were enclosed in a garage!               

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          TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          What do you think the atmosphere is? What keeps our air and things from floating off into the vacuum that is space?

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             ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Gravity?

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                TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Okay, so there's nothing between us and space...nothing sealing us in here...Nothing to have holes in or anything
                
                God, I swear, it's like people missed fifth grade science around here.

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                   ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Um, if I remember correctly, fifth grade science is where we talked about gravity.  I even did a science project on it.

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                      TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      Funny...I was doing meteorology in fifth grade science...must've been different curricula for different places.

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                         thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         The atmosphere is effect of gravity, the different masses of elements and compounds are what judges which elements and compounds appear in which levels of the atmosphere. 
                         
                         This is a fairly large generalization, but it is the basic premise of why the gasses do not float off in to space, there is no 'layer' that hangs around the earth keeping our atmosphere in.

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                         ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         Well I did go to a CA public school in the fifth grade.  Oddly enough I learned about meteorology via the Boy Scouts, got the merit badge and everything.

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                            TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                            That's cool...Being female, I was ineligible for the Boy Scouts. Maybe I missed out.

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                               ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                               Heh, yeah Girl Scouts just isn't the same.

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                                  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                  Yeah...so not the same I elected NOT to join them. LOL

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                A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Maybe a roof, I don't know where he lives but its gravity here also.

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       thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       While I have some grave concerns about global warming, and how much of a falacy it is, I do agree that pollution is a problem. If even a tenth of the money raised from carbon taxation was used to subsidise clean technology to the east, replant trees, or build recycling plants to cope with demand (Rather than spending billions getting people to seperate their rubbish for recycling, and then chucking the majority of it in to one big hole).
       
       I agree with environmentalism. I hate the scapegoating, propaganda, and the scaremongering that the green parties push, combined with their inability to look at the big picture which has caused no end of problems around the world.
       
       Sorry for the rant but I am in one hell of a bad mood today and had trouble holding back

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          TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Wow. Your bad mood sounds a helluva lot better than mine !
          
          That "sounded" pretty reasonable and calm to me, anyway...and I would have to agree with you. I'm not a big fan of propaganda and scaremongering either...I just try to chalk it up to the fact that (I hope anyway) those kinds of people are reacting to something they feel is of the utmost importance, and that scares them quite a bit...Not that that's any excuse for such behavior...but I think that's where it stems from.

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       Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You're right but spinning your wheels with the characters who are sharing their ignorance on this forum.

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    A Texanposted 14 years ago

    http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/scien … index.html

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    mikelongposted 14 years ago

    "Or cool down.  Research the Maunder minimum."
    
    I'm already familiar with this Led....
    
    But like I said, we are about to be entering a new period of solar activity.....the Mauder Minimum had to do with little to no solar action.... There are currently 47 sunspots on the Sun...which is a far cry from under 10.
    
    I look at photos of the Sun almost daily....and they are also produced daily....
    
    One of the many places:
    
    http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/images/
    
    But, I happened across an interesting image on New Years.....Let's see if I can post it here....
    
    

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    mikelongposted 14 years ago

    I see what looks like a person's face coming out of the bottom right quadrant....

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       thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       It's an english bulldog, us brits love to **** with you guys
       
       On a side note, that site is pretty cool, might have to bookmark it!

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       ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       That's great.  I've read that solar researchers say that we're entering a period of lower sunspot activity in 2012.  At any rate, we should get some pretty good data on how the Sun affects things on Earth.  Personally I'm excited.  Should things go either way, we'll still know more than we do today and in science that's the name of the game, not falsifying  or hiding data that doesn't agree with your hypothesis.

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    mikelongposted 14 years ago

    This one is better....it is the one I use most:
    
    http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/rea … mages.html

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    mikelongposted 14 years ago

    I absolutely agree...the more I come to know...the more I realize that we don't really know much....  I am glad that we are here in a place and time when we can find out so much for ourselves, though.....I'd hate to live at any other time in the past....

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       ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Yeah, much of wisdom is knowing what you don't know.  It would be nice if more people followed that little dictum.

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          thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I think a more apt message to the world would be..
          
          Much of wisdom is knowing what you don't know, and then learning it.
          
          

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    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    Ireland cold this morning - global warming way down the agenda

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       Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Haven't you heard? Cold is also global warming.

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    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    Sab Oh - No - I did not know that cold was also global warming - I actually watched some documentairies about global warming and to be honest I am confused - is it - isnt it - I just dont know

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       Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Put your faith in Al - he knows all.

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    MikeNVposted 14 years ago

    Lets take the side that it is in fact true for a moment.
    
    And the consensus that 3-6% is man made.
    
    Is selling Carbon Offsets an answer?  Really.
    
    Tickets to pollute for a fee!!!
    
    Every "Solution" I've seen or read about is nothing more than a financial scam.
    
    Is anyone offering a solution that doesn't involve "selling" tickets to pollute?

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    Flightkeeperposted 14 years ago

    Global warming is not a myth it's a lie.

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       Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You're saying that the majority of climate scientists are liars. Just curious, why do you say that? Because Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck say so? Do you have any basis for saying that climate science is a lie? Do you believe in witchcraft as well?

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          Flightkeeperposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Yes they are liars.  They are climate scientists because they depend on governments and organizations to give them money to do "climate research". If they admitted that there is no such thing as global warming, which is so obvious now, then they wouldn't have a job would they? Is it odd to you that someone who has a self-interest in global warming would not want to tell the truth and be made to look FOOLISH?!
          
          And I'll take witchcraft over global warming any day. And I'll take Limbaugh and Beck over your climate research dunces any day too.

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             Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             
             
             http://www.wearechangechicago.com/algore.html

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    Doug Hughesposted 14 years ago

    I was just reading Paul Krugman's blog - he's a Nobel Prize Laureate - and he mentions that this year is shaping up globally as the warmest on record. I noticed they had to truck in snow for the Olympic events. The ice caps are still melting regardless of what you *believe* - (making an event with catastrophic consequences equal to arguments over the existence the tooth fairy or Easter bunny.)
    
    Global Warming is real - the question is what to do about it. And the conservative answer has the wisdom of sitting on the tracks while a train bears down. Do nothing.
    
    There's a lot of out-and-out lies about the cost of cap-and-trade. The cost per houshold each year - estimated by the Congressional Budget Office - $165. And conservatives continue to try to scare people with estimates over $3000. And conservatives should be  thrilled - the cap and trade approcah uses free-market forces to discourage the emission of greenhouse gasses.
    
    There's a reason for the controversy. Money.  The powers that bee want every dime they can make from coal and oil before they let humanity move to other energy options. They will ruin this planet for a quick buck. The time to act is now.

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       Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You've got it right. But you must watch Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Michele Bachman to make sure you get a balanced view!

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          Hokeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Pundits? That's where you look for truth?

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             Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Michele Bachman is not a pundit. She's a congresswoman from Minnesota. Limbaugh and Beck are among the most popular commentators on radio and cable TV. Beck was a keynote speaker at one of the recent Tea Party or conservative conventions. They are important sources of information for many participants in the HubPages forums. They can't be all bad and they must be superior to ouija boards or Tarot cards.

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                A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                or Ralph Deeds

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    MikeNVposted 14 years ago

    A far bigger issue that goes widely ignored as industrial growth around the world continues to destroy the oceans.
    
    http://www.epa.gov/mercury/effects.htm
    
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w … 211261.ece
    
    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009 … nwide.html

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    TechWriterIIposted 14 years ago

    HARRP http://hubpages.com/hub/Is-HARRP-hazard … our-health
    
    Official Website:
    http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

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