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Who cares? PALIN HAS NO CREDIBILITY NOW
The left will stop at nothing to push their socialist agenda on the rest of us freedom loving Americans!
If Alaska is rural today, can you imagine how much more it was so 40 years ago? I'm sure there weren't all that many doctors living near Whitehorse 40 years ago, perhaps Canada was the only option!
Occam's Razor, my friend: Palin is a hypocrite.
What's wrong with you??? She was 6 years old for god's sake!!!
Is she criticizing her parents' decision to go to the Soviet Republic of Canada for their daughter's healthcare? Is she accusing her parents of endangering her life, of submitting her to a "death panel"?
Palin is a joke, if McCain had not been senile enough to pick her as a running mate, none of us would have any idea who she is and that would probably be a good thing. Also, I am VERY conservative, but she is a cartoon.
sorry that our doctors mixed up and performed that lobotomy...
A lot of people take shots at Palin including Warren Buffett...
"Buffett took a jab at former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who has been mocked repeatedly for writing notes on her hands for her February speech at the National Tea Party Convention in Nashville.
'But if I'm going to comment on the Tea Party, I'll have to look at my notes here," Buffett said, looking at his hands.'"
Just got this email
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Um, since her family wasn't Canadian, they weren't covered by Canadian healthcare. They just paid for it out of pocket because it was the nearest medical help they could get.
I thought there were interminable waits, and the quality of care was abysmal in Canada? (Which is why trillions of Canadians are flooding across the border for American health care?)
Is it verified that there were no doctors in the town she was from, or are people just speculating to give this confession cover?
Then why are Canadians flooding across the border to pay for American health care out of pocket, when they can do so back in Canada?
This goes both ways actually. Why have 14 million Americans claimed fraudulent Ontario Health cards? That's 14 million extra people in a province of 9 million burdening a health care system they should have no part of. They system was not created to to also provide health care to the citizens of another country who are obtaining the health care through fraud because they can't afford a doctor at home.
And that's just one province. Our population is only 33million. Canada is providing care to to at least150% of it's population size. Might have something to do with any problems in our system.
And the flooding borders for health care is propaganda with an agenda.
Yes, I'm aware of that. I was trying (in vain) to debate with Madame X about this. In return, she provided a bunch of ridiculous, bogus statistics claiming health outcomes are worse in Canada than they are in the U.S.
Anyone who claims that Canada doesn't get vastly better health care on the dollar than the United States is deluding themselves. (Unfortunately, our right-wing is full of delusional people.)
Ahhh, so I see the MExicans have moved on to Canada
Tell that to the Palins. They think Canadian healthcare is better.
Actions speak louder than words...unless you think they wanted to endanger the health of their children.
If there's no other doctor around, then you go to where he is.
Have you verified that's the reason why they sought healthcare in Canada, or are you still speculating?
Did you even read the article? She was taken there at the age of 6, 40 years ago. I'm no fan of Palin but it took political guts to make that admission in a Canadian speech.
Even if it is better, it costs more than millions of people can afford.
From a recent "Investor's Business Daily" article, from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization:
Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:
Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:
Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:
Percentage referred to a medical specialist that see one within one month:
Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":
A selective sampling of data (link, please?). This examination of comparative studies clearly favors Canada's health care outcomes over ours:
Still no link. *Sigh*
I googled this and the only mentions of it are on right-wing conspiracy sites. All of the data is bogus. There is no "United Nations International Health Organization" except as a figment of your average right-winger's imagination.
The right-wing way to debate: smoke and mirrors.
Yes, but the US health system only works for people in jobs who also have money.
So if someone finds they can do better going outside of the US, what exactly is the problem?
I'm in the UK and know that there is much wrong with the NHS. However, 2 years ago, my life was saved by our ambulance service and I went on to have major thoracic surgery without having to pay a penny. Since I am lucky enough to live in Wales, I also get all my prescription medication free of any charges.
This is one of the main reasons I would never contemplate resettling to the USA. I could not live with the constant worry of not knowing whether my health needs would be covered.
On the same note, the most awesome health system I have knowledge about is in Cuba. Yes, it's difficult to buy simple analgesics if you have nobody supplying you with foreign currency, however if someone needs advanced health care, they are flown to a hospital in Havana, together with a family member, and both are housed free, while the patient receives whatever treatment is necessary.
And...the right-wing propagandist has left the building. Probably back at Free Republic.
Um, when Sarah Palin was 6 years old, the Canadian Healthcare Act had not yet been passed.
Just a little perspective . . .
Actually it had. It's been around in some form since 1947.
But the specific program in place right now, and the one to which this thread is referring was passed in 1984.
You don't understand our Acts. It is the exact same thing with a little tweaking. The 1984 Act had to do with changes of funding from the federal government to the provincial governments.
If something is tweaked, a sub clause added or removed the Act is renamed with that year to mark the changes. For instance in my province the Adoption Act received a new year beside it 1998, because changes were made the Adoption Act to encompass more subclauses regarding open adoption, which is the way it is done now. The rest of the Act did not change.
There was no new program created in 1984.
When one lives in Alaska, sometimes medical needs are such that the person has to travel many miles to receive appropriate care. I was ill in Alaska and had to come to the lower 48 for proper treatment, her closest for the need was in Canada. I don't think it's strange at all that she did that.
To add to this, two good friends of mine, who live in Cuba, gave up two years to work as doctors in Ethopia for no reward, and more recently spent a year in The Congo on the same basis.
WriteAngled - the figures you quoted from Madame X are bogus. They were literally fabricated and disseminated on a bunch of right-wing sites. There is no "United Nations International Health Organization."
It is usually known as the World Health Organization (WHO), but sometime referred to as the Unitd Nations World Health Organization.
"International health organizations are usually divided into three groups: multilateral organizations, bilateral organizations, and non-governmental organizations (NGOs). The term multilateral means that funding comes from multiple governments (as well as from non-governmental sources) and is distributed to many different countries. The major multilateral organizations are all part of the United Nations. The World Health Organization (WHO) is the premier international health organization."
The stats from IBD appear to be accurate -
The World Health Organization rates the United States at #37 on the list of health care systems, they have Canada at #30.
They penalize the U.S. for clearly political reasons, the U.S. does not have a single payer system, Penalty!
The WHO lists them #54 on fairness, Penalty!
The U.S. adopted Health Savings accounts, Penalty!
Patient out of pocket expense, Penalty!
We are not comparing apples to apples, The U.S. is penalized for, well, being the U.S.!
I trust WHO statistics far more than any statistics produced by US agencies.
Fine, we all have our choices. I am REALLY REALLY happy that I do not live with the health fears so many people face in the US. At my stage in life, I would not go to live there if I was offered £1,000,000.
I wouldn't live anywhere else, but if you believe that the infant mortality rate is on par with a third world Country then you haven't been given accurate information.
I understand the bias that most of the world looks at the U.S., I guess if I lived in Countries where national pride was frowned upon I might have a bias towards a Country where it is encouraged.
You really shouldn't, the whole UN system is unbelievably self-serving, bureaucratic and corrupt....you would think they were all from Chicago
Source please. I've learned to be skeptical of right-wingers' claims about health care.
In the same study I cite above it rated the US "responsiveness", or quality of service for individuals receiving treatment, as 1st, compared with 7th for Canada.
Canada has a lower mortality rate and a higher life expectancy by a whopping two years.
I don't mind being dead 2 years before a Canadian, I would mind however having surgery on my brain when I went in for a vasectomy!
I have also found that the US birth survival rates are only slightly above those in many so-called third world countries.
Rates skewed by all the illegal aliens who run across the border to give birth (and some inner city areas with serious public health issues).
Pregnant women are running across our borders?
That paints quite a picture.
Quite an accurate one. They're known as 'anchor babies'
Yes, given the sources you cited...
Oh wait, paranoid delusions don't have to be cited.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/ … 0401.shtml
You really need to pay more attention
Citing after the fact TK?
Your source supposedly backs up your assertion that the stats are skewed dramatically?
Changing your handle hasn't actually changed YOU has it?
tk has always been the same. He is just agin it!
Doesn't matter what is said, he just disagrees with everything for the sake of disagreeing!
I must respectfully disagree.
he is in full agreement with Rushbeckity on most every issue.
"he just disagrees with everything for the sake of disagreeing!"
I made a statement and supported it with facts. Just what do you want?
"Citing after the fact?"
You seemed to want citation for something you should have known in the first place. And why are you leaving out the part where you were completely wrong?
do you think palin went to canada because so many people like her in the USA???
And the Australian system is a mixture of bulk billing via a government system and private health insurance. Private health insurance doesnt pay for your GP visit, but for hospital,...
its a good mix and although there are waiting lists for elective surgery in the public system, there arent in the private... and everyone gets health care. Noone is left out. A public hospital is not allowed to turn away patients.
We are happy to hear that the USA is adopting a more kindly system of health care for all.
More kindly? I personally will be forced to buy health care insurance under this bill, should it become law, and I don't consider that to be one bit kindly.
I was using the lowest form of wit... I like palin as a woman who fishes, as a politican, I think she embarrasses herself.
Here's some very good news! I hope it's true.
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