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   SparklingJewelposted 13 years ago

   by William Norman Grigg
   
   http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w145.html
   
   a perspective comparing the trial of the Michigan Hutaree Militia to the murdering joke of Obama at the White House Correspondent's Dinner
   
   
   ..."By any honest reckoning, the government ruling us is the single most promiscuous law-breaker on record, and the contempt of our rulers for the legal authority under which they supposedly operate – the U.S. Constitution – is inexhaustible."

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      barryrutherfordposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      SPAM !

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   Doug Hughesposted 13 years ago

   Two points I want to make. First, the report that Sparklingwingnut refers to leaves out some facts.
   
   "David Brian Stone, the Hutaree’s leader, obtained information about such devices over the internet and emailed diagrams of such devices to a person he believed capable of manufacturing the devices. He then had his son, Joshua Matthew Stone, and others gather materials necessary for the manufacturing of such devices."
   
   While the defense is entitles to spin this as drunk talk, the evidence seems to suggest the plot extended to design and collecting bomb materials. It will be up to the prosecution to prove those points in court - I don't advocate trying this case in Hubpages, but if a Christian defender of the Hutaree wants to post only half the story, I will post the missing half.
   
   Second - there is something vile about trying to equate a joke that Obama told - to the active and premeditated murder of a policeman and the subsequent murder of greiving members of the funeral. Some people are so blinded by their hatred of all things Obama they can't discern reality.

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   I read the link. The guy is a ratbag!
   Talk about drawing a long bow!

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   Friendlywordposted 13 years ago

   CONSPIRE: to join in a SECRET AGREEMENT to do an unlawful or wrongful act or an act which becomes unlawful as a result of the secret agreement.
   
   Sparky Baby! Is Griggs saying that President Obama Conspired to kill the Jonas Brothers?  If Yes... Is he saying President Obama Conspired to kill the Jonas Brothers With the Jonas Brothers and a room full of other people?

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   SparklingJewelposted 13 years ago

   I just put it out there...you'all make of it what you will...and I always find it interesting who attacks who about what

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      Friendlywordposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      WHAT???

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         SparklingJewelposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         i am sorry, not you Friendly...though I am not sure exactly what you were getting at...
         
         mostly I was responding to Dougie name calling me again and he and Ernest attacking the author of the article...with a response that makes it clear how differently people think about particular situations

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            earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            At least I do read things and check their sources before replying.

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            Friendlywordposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I'm glad you bought up this subject. I never really listened closely to the facts of this case. The author made a very bad comparison.
            
            And I really don't understand the actions of the first Judge in this case. She had the same information Doug has. Right?

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   Even a quick read of wiki will show you that we are dealing with another fundie.
   Just Google him and see for yourself. Conspiracy theorist, Clinton hounding fundie.

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   SpanStarposted 13 years ago

   Having read the link
   
   I am not sure if it is the stress of the job or if the Pres. Obama truly do not understand just how much some people people hate him. He is under a microscope and he will be until such time as he leaves office. Actions and words that he uses which would not have been given a second thought if done by somebody else will be magnify, analyzed and dissected. This president needs to come to grips with the idea that not all Americans are working with him there are a lot of them who would like to destroy him.

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      Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      This is one instanse where the joke Obama made could only be taken as a joke by any rational person.  Those who want to portray the joke as 'in bad taste'  or offensive or seriosly violent brand themselves with the acccusation as irrational. The more wingnuts try to spread this, the better it wil be for Obama.

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   SparklingJewelposted 13 years ago

   it continues to amaze me how people think that the way they see things is the only correct "version"...I do my best to not fall into that delusion   diversity makes the world go round...and hopefully we all learn what we are here to learn while we learn to work together
   
   Ernest, what's a "fundie"? I really would like to hear your version, just in case you are ignorantly using the word, for I would like to think that it's too easy to call others names, I have seen you rise above that level

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   Madame Xposted 13 years ago

   jewel - Doug doesn't have a "version". He only spouts what he's been told to. That's why he can name-call and insult others with impunity and never get banned. He's a government shill paid to disrupt discussion boards of this nature.

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      Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      MadamX - You have crossed the line. If you call me a 'cad' or a 'sexist' that's an opinion. And I won't complain.
      
      But the accusation that I am 'paid by the government to disrupt discussion boards' is a lie and I am going to report it and protest in the strongest terms.

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         Madame Xposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Of course you are. That's what people like you do

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            Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            If anyone wanted to check, they would notice that I only post early in the morning or late afternoons to night.  Sundays excepted. That's because work 6 days per week in the hot Florida sun.  I'm a working guy who sees how the working class is getting the dirty end of the stick.   
            
            As Sarah Palin put it, 'Ya can't just make stuff up."

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         Sab Ohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Gonna need a lot of cheese to go with this whine...

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            Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            We have been reading your cheesy opinions for a while. You have enough chesse - try more wine.

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               Sab Ohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Do you mean that in the strongest possible terms?

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                  Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Why don't you pose that question to MadameX? (If you can find her.)

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                     Sab Ohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Because I didn't see her wringing her hands and whining and complaining "in the strongest possible terms" all the injustices brought against her and reaching for the 'Help Me Mommy!' button. Oh, the humanity!

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                        Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        If you like whiney hubs - read MadamX - 'A blatent Lie' (oh the irony) - - read the accusations and then folllow the comments waaaaaay down until she finally admits what the comment was that got her suspended.
                        
                        It wasn't me at all - but she never corrected her hub accusations.

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                        PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Really?  She devoted an entire hub to her paranoid fantasies about Doug and an entire thread about being offended by the term "sugar."
                        
                        She likes to play the victim, doesn't she?

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                           Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           I think she's an understudy for Sarah Palin.

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      Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Lol, that's a new one

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         PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Actually, I've seen it before.  I think she lifted it from Buck.

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      PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Arthur, where are you?  LOL

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    Friendlywordposted 13 years ago

    Madame/Sparkle
    Let's talk about VERSIONS VS. FACTS. Help me understand your version of facts. Let's go back to basics.
    
    The round earth revolves around the round Sun. Can I have your version of these facts.
    
    Why twist the facts as if they are opinions?
    
    Keep stating the facts for us Doug!

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       Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks for the friendlyword, friendlyword.

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