If not OBAMA who would you nominate to run for US Presidency next time

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   NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years ago

   So you may not be a Democrat or even a Republican, but you are a part of a democratic sytem. Think now of the near future and who would you like to see at the helm of your country's decision making ability.
   What are the qualities and qualifications that they should have?

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have already called for all senior Congressional Politicians to be ousted on their collective A$$!
      
      Anyone, who has been in office for 10+ year or more- GONE!!
      
      They are corrupted by business and do as business wants them to do. New laws are created, regulations established, regulation agencies developed and implemented, yet business continues to damage society, in almost every aspect of life.
      
      The strangle-hold on Congress - which is the "status quo" Obama is suppose to be breaking is still in place.
      
      It is absurd to think that the government is going to change things, and recent events have proven it to be true.

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         NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks Cagsil. I am trying to understand the US political system.

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            Doug Hughesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I'm an American. I'f you figure out the US political system, drop me a note.

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               rebekahELLEposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I hope NIGRIA doesn't try to figure it out from these forums!! :
               
               you've got that right!

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            KK Trainorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Oh, Please don't take that as an explanation of our system! His view is a cynical one at best. We have had a successful, stable and functioning government longer than many countries on earth, so it can't be as bad as Cagsil makes it sound.

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         Sab Ohposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         "I have already called for all senior Congressional Politicians to be ousted on their collective A$$!
         
         Anyone, who has been in office for 10+ year or more- GONE!!"
         
         
         Lots of people indulge that emotion, but there's that little thing called Democracy to take into account.

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      Audacious Shelleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      California Representative Tom McClintock.

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         NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I will be watching out for Tom McClintock.

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      Cedar Cove Farmposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Ron Paul.

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      Freeway Flyerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know why anyone would want that job. Congress is dysfunctional, and a significant percentage of the population is going to hate your guts no matter what. Americans want problems solved without being asked to sacrifice a damn thing personally. Whoever it is, I hope that it is a person who governs without obsessing about getting re-elected to a second term. (And for God's sakes, let it not be Sarah Palin. The U.S. would then officially become the laughingstock of the world.)

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      AnnCeeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Mitch Daniels?
      
      The right stuff?
      
      
      Indiana's governor is a likeable wonk. Can he save the Republicans from themselves and provide a pragmatic alternative to Barack Obama?
      
      
      THE governor does not like to keep people waiting. On a recent morning this small man leapt out of a trooper’s Toyota (Indiana-made) while it was still moving. He burst into a tiny chamber of commerce and began joking with businessmen, teachers and farmers. He is comfortable with most people in most places. He can command a boardroom. He has moseyed through enough fairs to know how to sign a goat—on its left side, so as not to write against the grain of its coat. After some small talk with the chamber, he introduced himself formally: “Mitch Daniels, your employee in public service.”
      
      Most Americans know little or nothing of Mr Daniels. He does not tweet. “I’m not an interesting enough person,” he explains. He is a Republican who had never heard of 9/12, Glenn Beck’s tea-party group, before The Economist mentioned it to him. But he is good at one thing in particular: governing.
      
      Wonks have long revered Mr Daniels. Since February, when he said he would consider a presidential run, others have started to as well. The Weekly Standard, a conservative magazine, published a glowing profile in June. At Indiana’s Republican convention he was greeted by chants of “Run, Mitch, run!” Mr Daniels is an interesting model. But whether national Republicans will embrace him is less clear.
      
      “I never expected to go into politics,” he explains. Born in Pennsylvania and weaned in the South, he moved to Indiana at the age of ten before a scholarship took him off to Princeton. Over the years he has worked for Richard Lugar, Indiana’s respected and moderate senior senator, served as Ronald Reagan’s budget director, run North American operations for Eli Lilly, a big pharmaceuticals firm, and, from 2001 to 2003, served as George Bush’s budget director. To these jobs he brought a decidedly dorky passion: a reverence for restraint and efficacy. This pervades his life. At 61, he runs or swims almost every day. He subsists, it seems, largely on oatmeal. On a recent shopping trip his credit card was declined for “unusual activity”. He is, in short, just the kind of man to relish fixing a broken state—or country.
      
      http://www.economist.com/node/16846340? … highlights

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      deblippposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I would happily vote for Hillary Clinton...again.

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   MikeNVposted 12 years ago

   The Nominees are already hand picked (Groomed)  We have little to nothing to do with it.  It's more a matter of picking from the lesser of two evils.  I was extremely unimpressed by Obama... and equally unimpressed by McCain.  The only person worse than McCain vs Obama would have been to resurrect Bob Dole.  Between the two of them I don't think either has the physical capacity to scratch their nose.
   
   People may not see this yet but Texas Governor Rick Perry is the likely Republican to rise once the real campaigning begins.
   
   Good question though.  Who would make a good president?

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      NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Will watch for Governor Perry.

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         Abecedarianposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         NGRIA, Rick Perry is my Governor and I hope you watch him pack his bags and leave the Governors mansion.  This guy is renting an elaborate estate on the taxpayers dime, somewhere abouts $16,000 a month, while he has the mansion remodeled.  He has spent very little time doing his job. He takes more 4 day weekends a year, than the average American in a lifetime.He talks of Texas leaving the Union, he cut back funding in education, he took us from a surplus to an $18 Billion dollar deficit.  Sound familiar, yup, he learned from the best, his boss George Bush.

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      NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Lol. Thanks Mike. Let's see if Governor Perry take up the challenge.

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      KK Trainorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I totally agree with you about Perry; he has a great future ahead of him if he plays his cards right.

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   Bacallposted 12 years ago

   The best choice to be the next President of the United States is Hillary Clinton. She would be the person with the all around experience. I don't see where anyone else would win against her.
   
   By the way, has any seen Sarah Palin since the Oil Spill?

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      NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Uhh. I know it is not over for Senator Clinton. She is getting a lot of experience and exposure with her current portfolio. Her resume' will be ready.
      Mrs. Palin is having TEA.

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         GeneriqueMediaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         Nobody's got my vote!

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            NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Me as well. Can't vote here. That's not democracy!

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      KFlippinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sarah has been quite in the public view for weeks as always.....but I would agree that Hillary would be a good choice as POTUS candidate, thought so in the last election as well, and think she is lurking in the background now, gathering tools, BS, and facts that will astound most all of us. 
      
      But, Bobby Jindal is showing himself to be a strong and dogged politician of merit, and I would welcome his entry into the race.

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         donotfearposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         
         I would welcome Bobby Jindal as well, though he is not an effective speaker. I don't think he would be taken seriously enough by the people, mainly because (in my own personal opinion) he just doesn't come across as strong.  But his values are right, for sure.

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            Sab Ohposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Romney-Jindal '12!

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         NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         GO BOBBY! GO!

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      NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with you. Mrs. Clinton can surely hold her own. Sarah? Uhh? Not a word from her. I wonder what she would say to BP?

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         Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         We already know: drill, baby, drill.

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            Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I hope she would!
            
            The recent BP mess was caused DIRECTLY by government interference.
            
            Here's an article that talks specifically about how governmental idiocy caused the tragedy :http://mises.org/daily/4488

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               Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               No matter what ridiculous thing she says, there is always someone who thinks she had a great idea.

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   AnnCeeposted 12 years ago

   Don't know a lot about Paul Ryan but he was very impressive at the health care dog and pony show the president held with Republicans to "get their viewpoint."
   
   Ryan was awesome.  http://www.house.gov/ryan/
   
   The president was vile, snarky, petulant, etc.
   
   

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      NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, interesting! If nothing else, Mr. Ryan is great for the camera. Looks good.

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   John for truthposted 12 years ago

   If we really HAD a choice, it wouldn't matter because the real controlling parties (not the white house) would just pollute the outcome.
   
   We have a real problem here in America and the only way we can fix it is to take the power away from the ones in power. Until that happens THEY will always put in office WHO they want and get who is in office to do what THEY want them to do.
   
   The way to make that happen is to EXPOSE them for who they are and take their power away!

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      Doug Hughesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I saw a bumper sticker that sums up yout post -
      
      HELP - THE PARANOIDS ARE AFTER ME!
      
      'real controlling parties' - undefined
      'pollute the outcome' - what the frick does that mean?
      'expose them for who they are" - wanna give us a clue who 'they' are?
      'take away their power" - what power and how do you want to take it?
      
      I'm all for election reform - there's way too much corporate funding in elections. But the problem with our elected representatives (usually) is that they are a true cross-section of America - uninformed and biased with lousy cognative skills. But there's no conspiracy - if you want to see what the problem is - look in a mirror.  What we have is waht WE elected!

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         tony0724posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Doug I rarely agree with you , but on that point I do

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      Sab Ohposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      "If we really HAD a choice, it wouldn't matter because the real controlling parties (not the white house) would just pollute the outcome. "
      
      It makes people feel good to make such declarations, but in the end it is just empty emoting.

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      NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That's so interesting for "democracy"? Democracy should allow anyone to vote for anyone, right?

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   AnnCeeposted 12 years ago

   Also Bobby Jindal is a wonderful leader.  A man.  Imagine his frustration.  Watching the oil encroach on his people and his state, destroying livlihoods.  And everything the retarded federal government, under Barack Obama, does just exacerbates the situation.
   
   Bobby Jindal is obviously a strong leader with experience under fire.  He came into a corrupt state and is shining the light of day into dark places.  He is a reformer and God knows we need reform in Washington.
   
   http://www.bobbyjindal.com/
   
   

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      KFlippinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      ......very good post/comment on Jindal.

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      kerrygposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      LOL, you have a short memory, I guess.
      
      In his congressional days, Jindal introduced a bill that would have opened up the entire US coast to offshore drilling. Among other things, it stated "(4) it is not reasonably foreseeable that . . . development and production of an oil discovery located more than 50 miles seaward of the coastline will adversely affect resources near the coastline."
      
      When this proved unable to pass, he switched his support to one that opened up 8.3 acres of the Gulf of Mexico to drilling instead. The bill was passed, and the block currently wrecking havoc on Louisiana's "people and coast, destroying livelihoods" was sold the very first day of auctions.
      
      Since the Deepwater Horizon spill began, he has continued to actively lobby for Obama to lift the moratorium on offshore drilling in the Gulf that was imposed in the early days of the spill.
      
      Of course, none of this has anything to do with the fact that he has received hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations from the oil industry over the course of his political career.

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         KFlippinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Hmmmm, and you imply Jindal recieved more money than Obama from Big Oil, literally and/or quantitatively? Interesting.
         
         And what about the MMS of the Dept of the Interior? Why is Birnbaum (a lifetime liberal in gov't service) not the one being grilled day after day for the American public to watch?  Why not other Interior dept. Obama officals as well?  They clearly turned a very blind eye to known issues with the BP Atlantis - oh the pockets run deep and have great trickling holes in a Democratic administration.
         
         The following links are from a new hubber that looks to have signed on because of the oil spill, the letters referenced are enlightening, and one can only speculate why the US media has not put the Interior department's fanny to the fire:
         
         http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/Gri … %20ltr.pdf
         
         Follow up letter to dept of interior - May 19 2010
           http://grijalva.house.gov/uploads/Grija … atures.pdf

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            kerrygposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I did nothing of the kind, and have been consistently critical of Obama over his handling of the spill. His decision to support offshore drilling has been one of the major disappointments of his presidency for me so far and I'm pleased it came back to bite him in the a**, though not about the way in which it did!
            
            My post was simply a response to the ludicrous portrayal of Bobby Jindal as a people's hero and "reformer" given the not insignificant role he played in creating the crisis in the first place.

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      NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks AnnCee. Never heard of Bobby Jindal. There seem to be some hope here.

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      Abecedarianposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well, to hear these people talk, Bobby Jindal walks on water.  What they forgot to mention, he's under investigation for ethics violations.  I know, we hear about Maxine Waters and Rangel, I guess the "liberal" media forgot to mention Jindal.

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      KK Trainorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Bobby Jindal would make a great President! I think he will run when he's a little older, he is still very young.

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   outdoorsguyposted 12 years ago

   Id vote for anyone that I like and was not a politician.  but thats dreaming I know LOL.   I dont know how many were actually disgusted to see what we all suspected dragged out in public. 
   
   even though I believed that Partys manipulated who got to run there by limiting our choices to what they wanted. but to actually see it being talked about like it was nothing ticked me off.

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      NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Outdoorsguy. I agree with your philosophy of democracy.

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   AnnCeeposted 12 years ago

   The power of the parties may be overrated. 
   
   Look at South Carolina and Alvin Greene.
   
   http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor … =127923298
   
   It is distasteful to be involved in politics, but if you have time and the inclination now is a good time to do it.

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      NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sour Grapes!!!.The little known Mr. Al Green won.Did he sing his way to the top? Did folks just know his famous name?

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   TMMasonposted 12 years ago

   No lets re-elect the great one...
   
   http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/4 … -SEE-THIS-
   
   I say Bobby Jindal and then we'll have to see about the VP. Not sure yet...

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      Sab Ohposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      JIndal as VP with Romney at the top of the ticket

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         TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         That ain't a bad pairing Sab...

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      NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What's the president's report card like at the moment?

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    TinaMarieTadposted 12 years ago

    My pick would be Bobby Jindal for President
    No one definitive for Vice President, although, I do like
    Michelle Bauchmann Congresswoman from Minnesota's 6th District..

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       KFlippinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I like the idea of the two of them on ticket as well!  Glad to see someone else with the same notion.  I hope we see more of Michelle Bauchmann and that she continues to show herself an intelligent and effective Congresswoman.

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       NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Another  vote for  Bobby. Its about time for another Bobby in the White House.

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    donotfearposted 12 years ago

    I favor Mike Huckabee....he was the only candidate that was easily understandable.

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       Audacious Shelleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, I favored him too.  What do you think of Nikki Haley?  I think I understood Chris Matthews' shiver up the leg when I heard her primary night speech.  Not for any physical attraction, but because she echoed my sentiments EXACTLY.  I've also considered Star Parker as well.

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          donotfearposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          
          I don't know anything about Nikki Haley.  I haven't been keeping up with it much, I just remember that when the election was going on that Huckabee was the only one who explained things in a way I could understand. He just made more sense. Period.
          
          Remember how persistent he was?  Ha! I loved this cartoon!
          
          

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             Audacious Shelleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             LOL, I hadn't seen that article but the Conservatives could certainly use a little "engine that could" attitude when approaching elections.
             
             I like the way Teal'c in Stargate SG-1 put it so many times which loosely translated is this: don't fight because you think you can win, but fight because your cause is just.

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       NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       "Let Mike do it" His new campaign slogan.

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    TheWicklessCandleposted 12 years ago

    Romney.
    
    This guy fixed problems his whole life and was successful every time.
    
    This will be the repair of a lifetime and he'll succeed.

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       NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       we need problem solvers cause problems we've got!

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    TheWicklessCandleposted 12 years ago

    Oh, and the whole oil thing?
    
    
    Shutting down the oil industry because of this accident is like shutting down the auto industry because a car crashed.
    
    
    It's idiotic.

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       kerrygposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Last time I checked, I don't think there's ever been a car crash that caused tens of billions worth of damage to people's lives and livelihoods across 5+ states, let alone resulted in 5-20 years of cleanup or potentially permanent damage to local ecosystems.
       
       Cars also don't typically fail at the rate oil infrastructure does. For example, blowout preventers fail up to 28% of the time. If 28% of cars crashed, I think we probably would see the industry shut down!

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          TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          You would be amazed what Nature can clean up... especially when your talking about a natural byproduct of the earth itself.
          
          Of course we'll spray so many tens of thousands of gallons of chemicals into the ocean and around the spill, that it'll probrably kill more wild-life than the oil does.
          
          I think hurricane season we'll help... if we get some good ones that is. We are about due for some really good hurricanes, they haven't been to bad in about 5 or 6 years or so here in FL..

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             kerrygposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Sure, the question is, how long it is going to take? More than 20 years later, you can still find oil from the Exxon Valdez in some areas of Prince William Sound, and the once thriving herring fishery has vanished completely. Never recovered, and shows no sign that it will any time soon.
             
             More than 30 years later, you can still find oil from the Amoco Cadiz, though it never hit wildlife as hard as the Exxon Valdez. The site of the Lakeview Gusher remains mostly barren 100 years later.

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       NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       LOL

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    OregonWinoposted 12 years ago

    I think that someone like Newt Gingrich would be a good nominee for the Right

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       Sab Ohposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Too much history and not telegenic

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       NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Go Newt.......

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    TMMasonposted 12 years ago

    I think if the right nominates someone establishment like newt, they will lose. America is sick of the same ole crooks in office. Thats pretty evident from the elections so far.
    
    I don't think the right should nominate anyone with too much time in already. That would be a sure loss.

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       NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Interesting thought. Looking for new blood..

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    TeaPartyCrasherposted 12 years ago

    Russ Feingold (D-WI)

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       NGRIA Bassettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       FINE GOLD? Sounds precious. Will check him out. Thanks.

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    Evan G Rogersposted 12 years ago

    RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAUL!
    
    Ron and Rand, 2012!

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       NGRIA Bassettposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       How fast can you say "Run Ron Paul Run'?

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    chip22posted 12 years ago

    Lane Kiffin.

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       Jim Hunterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       He would only stay for one year and then bolt for Canada.
       
       Besides he would want his dad to be vice President.

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    Abecedarianposted 12 years ago

    If not Obama, then Hillary Clinton.  Quite frankly, I like Joe Biden as a person (from what I've read and seen), but as VP..he's not seen much.  If Biden stepped down, then Obama Clinton would be the perfect ticket to energize the Democratic Party.  Not to mention, the possibility of adding an extra 8 years for the party when it's Hillary's turn to run solo.  It's politics folks....anything is possible.

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    AnnCeeposted 12 years ago

    What, Ngira??   You aren't a citizen and you think democracy means you should be able to vote here???
    
    You'd make a good Democrat if so.

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    klarawieckposted 12 years ago

    I would nominate Craig Ferguson.

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       klarawieckposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       

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    bojanglesk8posted 12 years ago

    I dunno lol.

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    JON EWALLposted 11 years ago

    HUBBERS
    
    ACORN HAD SOMEONE named '' micky mouse '' sign a voters registration card in the last election.
    Who knows who did vote on that registration, surely it had to be a Obama vote.

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       Moderndayslaveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Just as bad as the "Hanging Chad"

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    Evan G Rogersposted 11 years ago

    Ron Paul: someone who uses history and non-contradicting economic understanding to make sense of government policies.
    
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUNIeOB0whI

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    Moderndayslaveposted 11 years ago

    This guy:
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/15 … traficant/

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