The DNC must be getting nervous

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  1. Jim Hunter profile image60
    Jim Hunterposted 8 years ago

    The NAACP is in the process of drafting a resolution calling the Tea Party a racist group.

    The Tea Party responds with a resolution of its own condemning the civil rights group for reducing itself to a "bigoted" and "partisan attack dog organization.

    What do you think?

    1. bgamall profile image83
      bgamallposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Many Tea Party people are racist. They believe subprime buyers for the credit crisis instead of the bankster cartel that planned and carried out the scam.

      The Tea Party leader, Hennessey, is hanging out with CNBC's Kudlow who is the paid shill for the big banks.

      I have a hub on it. You could learn something if you stop by to read it, Jim.

  2. Ron Montgomery profile image59
    Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago

    {crickets}

    1. Jim Hunter profile image60
      Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I wouldn't expect you to respond there are no misdemeanors involved.

      1. psycheskinner profile image83
        psycheskinnerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I think Ron is correctly replecting a general lack of interest in the Tea party and their activites. They used to be kind of weirdly amusing.  Now they are just a joke.

        1. Jim Hunter profile image60
          Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I think Ron was pointing out that nothing was being said on this thread.

          I have seen him do it before on other subjects.

          The Tea Party gets a lot of attention so somebody on the left is taking them serious.

          The one thing the Republicans have going for them is fact that nobody likes the Democrats.

          We will see what happens soon.

          1. psycheskinner profile image83
            psycheskinnerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            They get lots of media attention, but then so does Lindsay Lohan--that doesn't make her important.

            p.s. I like the democrats just fine.

            1. Jim Hunter profile image60
              Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Lindsay Lohan doesn't have a hand in creating law but the most anonymous Republican in office does.

              Have you ever heard of Jeff Flake? He is a US Republican congressman who I dare say alone is not very important at all.

              But as part of a group, well you get the idea.

              Maybe I shouldn't have said nobody because you clearly are a somebody.

          2. Pcunix profile image91
            Pcunixposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, we will.  And at other times, in other countries and in our own, we have seen very bad decisions made by Ill informed and well manipulated voters.

            At other times, we have seen people rise above their base instincts and move forward.

            We will indeed see what happens soon.

          3. Ron Montgomery profile image59
            Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I hate to see someone start a thread and get no response.  Feeling sorry for the OPs, I give it a sympathy bump.

          4. Ron Montgomery profile image59
            Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years agoin reply to this



            Which in effect means the Republicans have less than nothing.  A poll out today states that 57% of Americans have an unfavorable view of Obama - that's pretty bad.  67% have an unfavorable view of Democrats - that's even worse.  So far it sounds like a golden opportunity for Republicans.  The problem is 73% have an unfavorable view of them.

            They have the same problem they've had for years.  They spend time saying what they're against, but can't articulate anything they are for...

            Much like the conservatives who post here.  Lot's of anger; nothing positive.

            1. Jim Hunter profile image60
              Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Grrrrrr I'm angry, I think the anger is coming from your side, constant name calling from the left on hubpages.

              I don't know what poll you are talking about but I believe it must be out there.

              Polls I have seen show the Republicans hold a double digit lead over the Democrats for the November elections.

              Which one is correct?

              1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
                Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                They aren't necessarily contradictory, they measure different things -(feelings about parties don't always translate into votes).

                1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                  Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Like I have said we will see in November.

  3. Pcunix profile image91
    Pcunixposted 8 years ago

    I think most of us have seen the Tea Party for what it is. Some apparently like what they see.

    In my neck of the woods, the TP crowd is not people I respect and admire, but I'm not among their favorites either. 

    It may be different where you are, of course.

    1. Jim Hunter profile image60
      Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      What are Tea Party members?

      1. Pcunix profile image91
        Pcunixposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Oh, you want to play semantics...

        "Members" in this context means the people who are part of the group that promotes or self-identifies with the Tea Party.

        Do you really need to quibble over everything?

        1. Jim Hunter profile image60
          Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          "I think most of us have seen the Tea Party for what it is."

          I'm not interested in semantics the Tea party is made up of members.

          You wrote what is quoted above,I was just wanting you to explain it.

          1. Pcunix profile image91
            Pcunixposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            With absolutely no intent of sarcasm, exactly what is it that you do not understand?

            You understand that I think TP members are sometimes, perhaps often,  not people who I respect or admire?

            You understand that my impression may be clouded by exposure to certain representative examples I live near?

            You understand that I will allow the possibility that my sampling does not fairly represent the group?

            1. Jim Hunter profile image60
              Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              "I think most of us have seen the Tea Party for what it is."

              Are you able to tell me what you mean?

              In the quote above you said "us" so what do "us"  think the Tea party is?

              1. Pcunix profile image91
                Pcunixposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Oh, more games..

                "us" is you and me and everyone else, Jim.  I've seen the TP.  I've seen them on TV and I've seen them here in my own community.   I'm sure you have also.  We may have come to different conclusions about their value, but we certainly know what they are, don't we?

                The NAACP seems to have a pretty definite idea, right?  You haven't actually said whether you'd agree or disagree. 

                I'd have to say that when directly challenged with that accusation, every TP hanger on I know has disavowed  the charge.  I tend both to believe and disbelieve:  I believe none of them THINK they are racist, but I think they are wrong.

                Just my opinion.  Oh, and the NAACP's, I guess, though I have not read  what they actually have to say yet  - I am taking your word for it.

                1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                  Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  The only games played are by you, it took 3 times for me to ask before you would say you think they are racist.

                  The fact that you think they are racist leads me to believe they are not.

                  Typical liberal charge if you disagree with a group then they are racist.

                  Hence the NAACP resolution. The NAACP ran its course a long time ago and is now nothing but an arm of the Democrat party.

                  When was the last time you saw the NAACP stand up for Alan Keyes?

                  Or any Black conservative?

                  1. Pcunix profile image91
                    Pcunixposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Oh, nonsense.

                    You've never seen racist signage at Tea Party rallies? 

                    I know:  they don't represent the majority.  Perhaps so, which is exactly why I said that things might seem to be different where you are.   I think the specific  TP people I know are unconscious racists, as I noted.

                    But I have plenty of reasons to not think well of the movement.  Naïveté about taxes, government, terrorism, immigration - I can't think of a single place I have any sympathy or empathy. 

                    I suspect you hold a different opinion.

              2. profile image0
                sandra rinckposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Religical, Poligious, Poligical...

                1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                  Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  And you are bigoted against religion?

                  1. profile image0
                    sandra rinckposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Could you define bigot for me please, and while you are at it, can you tell me what you believe the terms implied?  Thanks. big_smile

      2. Ralph Deeds profile image68
        Ralph Deedsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Ignorant racist rabble?

  4. profile image0
    sandra rinckposted 8 years ago

    I think they are what they are and they will run themselves into the ground.  A little off subject, but my new favorite line from Palin.  "When I said 'drill baby drill', I didn't actually mean 'drill'. lol

  5. habee profile image92
    habeeposted 8 years ago

    There are several different offshoots of the original TEA Party, and they sometimes disagree among themselves. Most of the members I know in this area are middle-class whites, but blacks and Hispanics are also members, along with democrats, independents, and republicans. The rhetoric I've heard from the locals is not anti-Obama, it's more anti-tax and anti-big government. BTW, I'm not a member.

  6. Doug Hughes profile image57
    Doug Hughesposted 8 years ago

    The OP discusses the NAACP drafting a resolution against the TP (Tea Party not toilet paper) movement (political not bowel). We are so into demanding that terms be defined and explaind - I thoght I would get them right out there...

    And the TP movement drafting something against the NAACP. OK.

    What does that have to do with the title - the DNC gettng nervous. There's no connection. But maybe I expect too much from wingnuts.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
      Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You failed to define wingnuts. lol

      1. Doug Hughes profile image57
        Doug Hughesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        If I define 'wingnuts' then I get another ban.

        1. Jim Hunter profile image60
          Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          A ban?

          Who banned you?

          I'd like to see the definition of wingnut especially if it came from you.

          Should be funny.

        2. Ralph Deeds profile image68
          Ralph Deedsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          That's would be the equivalent of two Purple Hearts or a Congressional Medal of Honor.

    2. Jim Hunter profile image60
      Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Typical response call names and then expect to be taken serious.

      The DNC uses the NAACP to call the Tea Party racist.

      Just an arm of the DNC.

      There's the connection.

      1. Pcunix profile image91
        Pcunixposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Somehow I get the feeling that you think there is something sinister about the NAACP generally favoring Democrats.

        1. PrettyPanther profile image86
          PrettyPantherposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Comes across that way, doesn't it?

          I'm assuming they will favor whichever party is most likely to support their causes, just like conservative Christians favor Republicans.

          1. Jim Hunter profile image60
            Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            What exactly is the NAACP cause?

            Isn't it to advance the causes of Black people?

            How is calling an entire group racist advancing anything?

            1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
              Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              The KKK is an entire group.  I'm gonna go out on a limb here and state that they are racist. smile

              1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                So is the NAACP.

      2. Flightkeeper profile image71
        Flightkeeperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        You do have to connect the dots for these people. smile

        I think there is current anger and unhappiness against both parties.  But I do think the House will have a Republican majority.  Voters don't like to see weak leaders in charge and BO (Barack Obama not Body Odor) is definitely a weak vessel. The Republicans will have fresh faces but my concern will be that they, like Scott Brown, will hold no loyalty to the party.  We have to get rid of the dreck and the RINOs in the Republican Party.

        1. PrettyPanther profile image86
          PrettyPantherposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I would hope you would value loyalty to constituents over loyalty to party, but as is typical with the current crop of Republicans, loyalty to party trumps all.

          Scott Brown, so far, is not a Republican sheep.

          1. Jim Hunter profile image60
            Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Like Barney Franks loyalty to his constituents?

            That kind of loyalty?

            1. PrettyPanther profile image86
              PrettyPantherposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              I'm sure if Barney Frank's constituents believe he is not representing their best interests, they will vote him out.

              1. Pcunix profile image91
                Pcunixposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                And yet, so far, we have not.  Given the number of raving homophobes I have seen down here in SE MA, that could be seen as odd.  But, as is so often the case, tiny minorities can make a lot of ugly noise.  It seems most of us appreciate the hard work Barney has given us for so many years.

          2. Flightkeeper profile image71
            Flightkeeperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            As always the smarmy comment. Thank you for always proving to me that positive comment are few and far between when it comes to libs. lol

            1. Pcunix profile image91
              Pcunixposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              FlightKeeper  has amazing filters, too :-)

              1. Flightkeeper profile image71
                Flightkeeperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Of course, trying to find the positive comments needs a filter.

            2. PrettyPanther profile image86
              PrettyPantherposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Yes, this thread has been a model of positive comments from good ol' Jim.  Besides, it wasn't meant to be smarmy.  You yourself said you are concerned about fresh faces being loyal to the Republican party.

              1. Jim Hunter profile image60
                Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                I haven't been rude or negative.

                Pot/Kettle philosophy.

              2. Flightkeeper profile image71
                Flightkeeperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                But you do make the negative assumptions don't you?

                Let me connect the dots for you so that you understand what I mean.  The fresh faces will have no loyalty because the Republican Party has not done a good job of cultivating tomorrow's leaders, so I don't expect them to have any loyalty which means that it will be hard for the Republican Party members to be able to work together.

                Sheesh, it's really exhausting talking to libs.

                1. PrettyPanther profile image86
                  PrettyPantherposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  You said absolutely nothing new.  You are concerned about fresh faces being loyal to the Republican party.  I get it.

                  1. Flightkeeper profile image71
                    Flightkeeperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Zoom, it just went over your head lol

                    Eh, the effort was so pointless.

                2. Pcunix profile image91
                  Pcunixposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  And yet, you never seem to tire of it.

                  1. Flightkeeper profile image71
                    Flightkeeperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    I keep hoping that there will be a breakthrough, but you're right, talking to libs is pointless. lol

        2. Pcunix profile image91
          Pcunixposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Translation : She is worried that some of them might want to think for themselves.  Thinking independently is disloyalty in conservative-speak. 

          And they might.  Politicians and Supreme Court Justices have been funny like that.

          1. Jim Hunter profile image60
            Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            You seem angry.

          2. Flightkeeper profile image71
            Flightkeeperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, just as independent democrats who think differently get drummed out of the party. Calling Joe Lieberman! lol

      3. Doug Hughes profile image57
        Doug Hughesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Let me see if I have this right . The DNC - the democrats - commands the loyalty of the NAACP. The GOP on the other hand, commands the Tea Party - many of them racist - and (surprise, surprise), the NAACP objects to racism..

        So in the end, the democrats has the loyalty of minorities because they support their interests,  and the loyalty of thinking white people, and the GOP is the party of old white guys - and is dying out as fast as the old white guys do.

        I appreciate you explaining that.

        1. Jim Hunter profile image60
          Jim Hunterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Commands the loyalty? They command the NAACP.

          As far as I know the Tea Party is a thorn in the side of the Republicans. They are seeking to oust incumbent republicans and replacing them with new ones.

          That's not exactly a match made in heaven.

          I know plenty of young Republican ladies who would laugh at you for that statement.

          Just cuz you sed it don make it so.

  7. habee profile image92
    habeeposted 8 years ago

    Some of you libs need to watch something besides Keith Olbermann! To get some real news, watch ALL the networks, read everything you can, and then believe about 10% of all of it. The TEA Party is often at odds with the republican party. Have you kept up with the primaries??

    1. PrettyPanther profile image86
      PrettyPantherposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I watch some Fox News almost every day, and yes, the Tea Party is sometimes (I'm not sure I'd agree with "often") at odds with the Republican party.  However, the vast majority of Tea Party members identify themselves as conservative Republicans.

      Tea Party Supporters Overlap Republican Base

      Yes, Jim, another link.  I'm obsessed!  Obsessed with factual evidence rather than unsubstantiated opinion.

  8. Ohma profile image74
    Ohmaposted 8 years ago

    The problem is that if a white person disagrees with or is in conflict with a Black, Hispanic, or any other person of color they are automatically labeled as being racist, however the same set of standard are not applied when the situation is reversed.

  9. Ralph Deeds profile image68
    Ralph Deedsposted 8 years ago

    Actually, GOP incumbents have nearly as much to worry about as the DNC. They may be jumping a shark in cozeying up to the Tea Party.

 
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