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The Cowardice Of The Democrats

  1. lady_love158 profile image60
    lady_love158posted 6 years ago

    http://blog.heritage.org/2011/03/28/mor … crats-cut/

    This congress and this president have been completely irresponsible in producing a realistic budget. We are 1/4 into this year and still there hasn't been a vote on the budget for this year! The democrats refuse to cut anything in the hope of blaming the republicans for being "mean spirited" and Obama, as usuall, refuses to take a leadership role in the debate, content to sit back while others hammer out something temporarily acceptable where upon Obama will step in and make a flowery vague and non commital speech! Obama.and the.dems.gave to go they're useless cowards, ineffectual bureaucrats that don't serve the interests of this country or its people!

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      Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You know lady_love. I don't know what your intent is, but it not only reveals a complete lack of sensitivity towards others, but not much of a brain to post things like the above headline.

      Firstly, who are you to judge other people? You don't know enough of what is going on in other people's heads to be able to do that?

      Secondly, your evaluation of different situations has been shown to be somewhat  simplistic. You omit thousands and thousands of pieces of data that change the picture you're drawing. Like, for instance, you assumed because I was taking one position that I had to be a 'leftie'. (Our last thread discussion.)

      Thirdly, in seven months, you're written three very juvenile poems. I'm, therefore, assuming that all these posts of yours are nothing more than a tactic for people to click on your hub and read your poems.

      Get a life.

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Who are YOU to judge me?? Am I not entitled to my opinion? If you disagree fine then tell me why I'm wrong! No better to attack me my views my writing and tell me to get a life! Oh you're sooo much better than me! You lack the courage to admit you're a left wing liberal progressive socialist but you have the nerve to tell me to get a life! Get your own life!

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          Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          lady love, actually, politically, I am dead center. I believe some of what the GOP wants (fiscal responsibility) and some of what the Dems believe (that medical care is out of reach for most people - I don't like the current solution, though.)

          I don't believe abortion should be paid for by the State (Republican) but I do believe that everybody has the right to make their own decision as to whether to have one or not (Democratic.)

          So, no party suits me.

          Who am I to judge you? I assessed your actions, behavior, and your words. I did not judge you. You, on the other hand, called half of the United States, cowards. That makes YOU a judge. There is a difference between telling someone they're lying (stating an action that someone else is doing) and calling them a liar (making a judgement). You make a lot of judgments about other people.

          Is everybody entitled to an opinion??? Not in my opinion. An opinion used to be based on highly researched information. Today, people confuse opinion with the ramblings of an uneducated mind. A lawyer, for example, used to be asked to give 'opinion'. He needed heavily researched facts to express that opinion. Same with a doctor or other medical personnel. One didn't just spout forth a feeling, a belief, or whatever else it is that passes for opinion these days.

          I'm not sure what writing you're talking about. Three poems isn't writing.  As a professional editor and writer for much of my life, I think I know good writing when I see it. I've certainly been paid to evaluate it (by publishers) in the past.

          1. lady_love158 profile image60
            lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Clearly the actions of Obama and.the democrats speak for themselves. I stand by my opinion which is based on reported facts. I certainly don't need to spe d years researching every action of congress in the past to make what is an obvious conclusion.

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              Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              And that is the issue. Your 'reported facts' are written by a propaganda press. And because you don't go and check where the 'press' got their sources and their information, you don't realize how erroneous your reading is.

              Yes, you DO have to spend years researching things. I have. Like the last time I asked you to quote a piece from the constitution and show me exactly where the current government doesn't obey the constitution.

              You couldn't do it because all you had was what someone else said. It doesn't seem to occur to you that the press is owned by people who have a vested interest in getting you to believe what they want you to believe. The only way around that is to go do the research yourself - or at least, enough of it to know that probably what you're reading isn't the truth.

              Did you know that there was some research a couple of years back that showed that the brains of those on the right are different to the brains of those on the left?

              Those on the right are unable to process complex information while those on the left can...

              1. lady_love158 profile image60
                lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                You are a fraud! I quoted the constitution directly! Clearly it states congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion the ACLU has worked to get court judgements to eliminate prayer or the mention of god in public institutions.

                The article on the budget states simple facts like this being the first congress that hasn't even had a vote on a budget this late into the fiscal year. Fact Obama created a debt commission by executive order against the will of congress and ignored every single recommendation! These are facts.

                I think what you need to learn is there is a difference between research for writing a book and a forum post intended to promote discourse... you being a professional and all, one would think that you know that though.

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                Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Oh ROFL!
                That's precious!  roll  lol
                The audacity of the Left is easily computed!   And not something to be proud of, I will add.

                1. BillyDRitchie profile image62
                  BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  "Those on the right are unable to process complex information while those on the left can..."

                  The left can make some pretty outrageous posts, but I'm pretty sure this one takes the cake.....

                  1. lady_love158 profile image60
                    lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Lol! Right! Where is her "research"? She's just repeating what other people say... and chances are she has it wrong and is parrotting it the way she remembers it! Lol! More hypocrisy from the left!

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                    Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    http://neuropolitics.org/Right-and-Left … Part-1.htm

                    http://neuropolitics.org/Conservative-L … -Brain.htm

                    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/14 … h-goldberg

                    I could go on posting all the links to this research.

                    As stated previously, there seems to be a misunderstanding of what the word 'opinion' means. Research is NOT opinion. The results of the research are fact.

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              Texasbetaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Obvious opinion? How ridiculous. Your Republicans ignore any significant cut, and only want to focus on social engineering like eliminating NPR, Planned Parenthood, etc. YOUR REPUBLICANS ignore the hundreds of billions we pay in corporate welfare, and did this year too. YOUR REPUBLICANS ignore the subsidies in the hundreds of millions we pay to oil companies for no reason. Defense? Don't even get me started. It is a joke, and yes, so are you.

              1. lady_love158 profile image60
                lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Lol! And who just renewed subsidies for ethanol? Your president Obama! Can win reelection withou the farmers in Iowa now! Open your eyes!

                1. PrettyPanther profile image84
                  PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  President Obama and most Democrats did not campaign on promises of cutting spending in general and entitlements in particular.  Republicans, and more specifically the TEA PARTY, did.  Why do you expect Obama and the Democrats to do their job for them?

                  1. lady_love158 profile image60
                    lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Oh really? His entire agenda was supposed to be designed to cut the deficit. Maybe you need to review the campaign rhetoric.

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          Texasbetaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          You don't have an opinion. You are a party troll who only spouts bumper sticker talking points. You could care less about the truth. You are a propagandist, nothing more. That makes you a bad person by the way.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Wow.  The apparent-Leftists in this thread just keep spouting hateful stuff!  Wonder if they've been talkin' to those missing Democrats too much?
            That was a really nasty, totally intolerant remark you made, Texasbeta.

            1. lovemychris profile image80
              lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              At least he didn't call her anti-American.

          2. lady_love158 profile image60
            lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Says the media matters troll... !

      2. AnnCee profile image70
        AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        These personal attacks on LaLo are getting out of hand in my opinion.  You not only attack her post at this forum you also stalk her and attack her Hubs.

        I don't know the politics of the administrators of this forum but I have been banned for suggesting that someone might not have actually checked the "news" he was commenting on.  I asked if he'd checked behind his own eyelids since he didn't seem to have a grasp on the fact that myriad individuals and nations had indeed volunteered to help the Japanese in their crisis.  It was deemed unnecessarily combative.

        I have hesitated to hit the report link because I don't want to be involved in any pi**ing matches, I'm here to discuss politics.

        But in this case I have hit the report link and we'll just have to see what happens, if anything.

        I will happily leave a forum that allows people to gang up every day on a person who is posting her opinion and breaking no forum rules that I am aware of.

        1. lovemychris profile image80
          lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          So, you think that we should ignore her daily 3-4 attacks on Obama and anything Democrat?

          Just let you other Repubs comment on her threads? Tearing us a new one every minute?

          As someone who has also been banned, and also been gang attacked.....

          I say, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

          1. BillyDRitchie profile image62
            BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            So questioning policies becomes "attacks"?

            Questioning competence becomes "hate"?

            Boy, I wish you people came with subtitles......

            1. lovemychris profile image80
              lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              According to Ann Cee, when it is directed at Lady Love....

              1. AnnCee profile image70
                AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                There is a big difference between attacking PUBLIC figures and attacking PRIVATE citizens.

                Maybe it's time to read the journalists code of ethics if we don't understand that.

                PUBLIC figures are fair game.   Why leftists can even make a movie about the assassination of George W. Bush with complete impunity.  Magical ain't it?

        2. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Thanks Ann! It's no big deal... let them attack me it only serves to show the weakness in their positions!

          1. AnnCee profile image70
            AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I understand that LaLo.  But this one seemed a bit much to me since she went even beyond the forum to attack you.

        3. Randy Godwin profile image92
          Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Apparently, neither you nor LaLo realize this a writers site.  Yes, we have different forums for different subjects which brings discussion among writers here.  The forums aren't for merely posting daily contentious political threads while not producing any writing of substance on the site.

          There are plenty of formats available elsewhere to simply rant to your heart's content without putting this trash on here everyday.  Now if you or LaLo have other accounts here in which you actually produce something beneficial to the site, then I apologize for accusing you of not writing much. 

          But if between you two you only have the few hubs posted on your known accounts, then yes, I disapprove of you being able to continue posting junk threads.  And if either of you are getting paid to post these threads, you are the lowest of the low!

          1. lady_love158 profile image60
            lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Are you the moderator? Where does it say in the forum rules what the purpose of these forums are?

    2. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Again, blaming only one side. How ridiculous.

      Both sides are cowards and both sides are corrupt. If that isn't obvious to you, then I would suggest you take the blinders off and pay closer attention.

      Those who are in your own political party or as others describe it, the "right" are just as bad, if not worse in some ways than those they oppose.

      That you cannot deny, no matter what you do to try and distort the facts of the entire situation, never mind, nit picking specific things.

    3. AnnCee profile image70
      AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Absolutely true.   Obama doesn't like to take actual ownership of anything.   

      He's playing to so many conflicting constituencies he can't bow to anyone without mooning someone else.

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        Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Lol
        So true AnnCee!
        He makes a big show of trying to please EVERYONE.  Maybe one of these days he will realize that can't be done.  And then, maybe he will openly show his true overall agenda.

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
          Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this



          Helping Eastern Kentucky to march boldly into the 20th century?

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            Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Yep.  That is fur shure where I gots me part of me edumacation!  They is so prowd uv me!  WKU is sad that they dedn't git to skool me.   lol

            Hey Ron---is yu the cavalree come to help mee?

            1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
              Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Better than that....

              I am CarpMan

        2. AnnCee profile image70
          AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I don't think he will though.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Me neither.  At least, not unless he finds himself in a position where he's sure he's got the majority of America bamboozled so they won't oust him.

    4. prettydarkhorse profile image63
      prettydarkhorseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      For your information when it comes to dealing with the tough choices involved both in cutting programs to reduce the
      budget deficit and still maintaining needed federal programs, whose approach do you prefer: the
      Republicans in Congress or President Obama's?

      According to the latest sample survey by the CNN which was released today Obama wins by one percent, LOL

      http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/image … /rel5f.pdf

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Please read the constitution I'm sure you heard of it. The purpose of the federal government is not to create "needed"  programs.

        1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
          prettydarkhorseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Did you even read the report?

          1. lady_love158 profile image60
            lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I don't have to it's a poll of peoples opinions. Maybe you aren't aware but that isn't how the government works.

  2. Pandoras Box profile image68
    Pandoras Boxposted 6 years ago

    Then again, you're probably just getting your news from heavily biased sites.

  3. Pandoras Box profile image68
    Pandoras Boxposted 6 years ago

    Y'all prove it everyday. Hate is all you got.

  4. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago

    http://www.edvard-munch.com/Paintings/anxiety/scream_3.jpg

    Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy won't they listen?

    Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy can't the demlibsocialists embrace my ignorant hateful preachings?

    Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy must I work 24/7 to eradicate tolerance, literacy, and democracy?

    It's enough to put bats in yer belfry I tells ya.

    1. pisean282311 profile image52
      pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      lol

  5. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    The Republicans on this thread are like those who called Max Cleland a coward.
    He, a decorated war vet who came home in a wheelchair--they, the high-paid lawyers who came to Congress to further their monetary careers.

    And Obama does have to work for all sides. He's the pres of the United States, not the president of his party.

    If he takes heat from everybody--which he does-- that would make him something other than a coward, if you ask me. A coward is one who plays to his/her base all the time, refusing to budge.

    Errr, ahhhh......ahahahaha!!

    1. BillyDRitchie profile image62
      BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Would this be the same Max Cleland who lied about how he lost his limbs in Vietnam in order to make it look more "heroic" than it actually was?

      I was sooo thrilled when Max lost his seat.....good times.....

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        This is the Max Cleland who fought in Vietnam.
        He is no coward.

        1. BillyDRitchie profile image62
          BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          No, he was no coward....stupid maybe but not a coward.....

  6. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    What a lovely and lyrical way to say "shut up."  big_smile

    1. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Actually, it wasn't meant in that manner, which is nothing new for your viewing habits.

      It's called bring civility to the table, which apparently many people who post to the threads lack.

      And people claim society is civilized. Yeah, right. You people point the finger at one another, place blame on only one side while not admitting that the side that you are on is no better than the side you oppose.

      Talk about being a hypocritical actions. lol lol lol lol

  7. Mighty Mom profile image90
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Citing statistics is not a peronal attack!
    Lady Love show 2729 forum posts vs. 3 hubs in 7 months.
    Compare to another staunch voice of the conservatives,
    Billie D. Ritchie
    700 posts, 142 hubs in basically the same time period.
    As Randy said, this is a writers' site.
    As they say in academia, publish or perish. lol
    (And please do not interpret that as a death threat against people who have published a very low #s of hubs/time on HP).

    1. AnnCee profile image70
      AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You would like HubPages to impose a quantifier insuring that contributors to forums meet a certain criteria vis a vis prodigiousness and quality of literary output?

      LaLo's writing was called juvenile and she was called insensitive.  Others have called her worse.  I've been called worse.  But I think stalking a contributor in this manner is a problem.

      Nobody cited statistics but you, MM.

      If you don't like LaLo's threads don't respond to them.  Easies.

    2. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      It's a writers site then with so many forum posts id say I qualify as a writer. Some write poetry some songs some articles some books I write forum posts so what's the problem?

      1. Randy Godwin profile image92
        Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Fine! You consider yourself a writer?  Then why not post your rants on your hubs and see how much support you get in the comments section.  Be a writer if you are going to consider yourself one.  lol

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        Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        @Lady-Love. Everybody writes on forums. That doesn't mean they are writers. Writers write articles, web content, screenplays, plays, books, journalistic content, etc. Nowhere does it define someone who writes on forums as a writer. That's merely social interaction.

        1. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          So why are you and others complaining? Why not do something productive with your time? Why not make your own posts and stay away from mine?

  8. tritrain profile image73
    tritrainposted 6 years ago

    The trolling of forums.

  9. Mighty Mom profile image90
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Having not read LaLo's 3 hubs I can't comment on whether they are juvenile or not. That is one poster's opinion.
    I've seen plenty of posts here on the forums calling other people "juvenile" (not using that exact word, however).

    I think it is fair to say LaLo is insensitive. Insensitive meaning not sensitive. If she were sensitive she would have stopped posting long ago.

    As for "stalking" I'm not sure who is/was stalking LaLo (?)But if it is true, it is a problem that LaLo can bring to Admin.

  10. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    Are you kidding?


    This is a political discussion board.  There are some here who are obviously not in favor of Obama's fundamental transformation of the United States.

    You call it "insensitive" to express those opinions because some others object to those opinions?

    Seriously are you kidding?

    1. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I think she meant I have thick skin which is true! Lol! I don't care what anyone thinks about me especially people I don't even know nor care to!

    2. PrettyPanther profile image84
      PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      LaLo has a right to post as much as she wants, just like I have a right to monopolize the conversation at dinner.  However, if I do monopolize the conversation at dinner, especially by repeating multiple variations of the same topic and in a negative tone, I shouldn't be surprised if someone calls me insensitive or rude.  Similarly, LaLo's posting seems to be considered excessive by many people here.  Does she have a right?  Sure.  Do others have a right to point out that she is being insensitive or rude?  Yes.

      I suppose I could say to my dinner friends, "Why are you complaining?  Why not do something productive with your time?  Why not start your own conversations at dinner and ignore mine"?  I'm guessing they will eventually be driven away from having dinner with me and I'll be sitting all alone with no one to listen to my drivel.

      IF that is your intent, LaLo, keep going and it will eventually happen.  The difference here is that new people will come and respond to your one-note posts until they get bored and move on.  I suppose you might like that.  If so, just carry on.  Or, you could choose to be just a little bit more considerate and slow down on the posting. 

      What you choose to do is a reflection of your character, in my humble opinion, which I have a right to state and which you care nothing about, I'm sure.

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Why do you leftys want to silence me? What is really the problem? This isn't a dinner table conversation its a forum! Simply don't reply or make your own post and ignore me!
        Thing is that's not good enough for you! You want me to shut up!! But I wont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Lol! Just for you pretty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        1. Randy Godwin profile image92
          Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Au contraire, LaLo!  I want you to talk, especially about my previous questions you are afraid to answer.  You said you had answered them but haven't pointed out where.  Come on, what's it gonna harm to give me a link to where you answered the question concerning if you are paid to post here?  smile

        2. PrettyPanther profile image84
          PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          As usual, you over dramatize.  No one wants to shut you up and you know it.

  11. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    Good heavens is it 1984 already.

    http://www.synapseproductions.org/whatson/images/1984web.jpg

    1. Randy Godwin profile image92
      Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You didn't know you had missed it already?  lol  That explains loads!

      1. AnnCee profile image70
        AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        And of course you missed my point and my humor because you're just so. . .    well. . .  humorless and well. . . never mind. 

        I'm sure I'd be banned tuit de suite if I called you juvenile or insensitive.  So I won't.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image92
          Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Of course I got your point, AntCee!  You were comparing Winston Smith's job of changing history to the way LaLo tries to do the same with her inevitable daily anti-Obama rants.  Geesh, I ain't so dumb I couldn't see the huge similarity, gimme a break!  lol

  12. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    BINGO!

    1. Randy Godwin profile image92
      Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      DUNGO-->

    2. PrettyPanther profile image84
      PrettyPantherposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      LaLo plays the victim card and AnnCee gives it a technicolor thumbs up.

      http://www.sevenwholedays.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/VictimCard.jpg

  13. rebekahELLE profile image88
    rebekahELLEposted 6 years ago

    she really says nothing new, does she?

    1. Randy Godwin profile image92
      Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Or accurate, for that matter!  I cannot conceive of being so bored to the point of posting the same old propaganda, day in and day out, for seven long repetitive months. 

      Why would any rational person do this on a site intended for writers?  Any reasonable explanation will be appreciated if anyone can think of one.  smile

      1. rebekahELLE profile image88
        rebekahELLEposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        The intent is obvious, so there's no real discussion. That's why I have this forum blocked. When I do take a look, it's the same stuff, an inflammatory headline, some article and a rant. lol

        1. Randy Godwin profile image92
          Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I understand.  I think I'll just choose not to address her anymore as I believe she is a paid political poster.  Overpaid, I might add!  lol

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            Sophia Angeliqueposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I don't respond to these people anymore.

            1. lady_love158 profile image60
              lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Promises promises!  Lol

 
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