No wonder Tea Party activists love Florida governor Rick Scott.

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   John Holdenposted 13 years ago

   "To save a pittance on the state's budget, Scott, who has a personal net worth of more than $200 million, thanks in part to his having been president of a healthcare company that perpetrated the biggest medical fraud in United States history, vetoed a bill earlier this month that finally would have brought relief to 2,500 poverty-plagued African American farm laborers. Over the course of five decades, these people were poisoned on a daily basis by a witch's brew of pesticides."
   
   http://www.theatlantic.com/life/archive … em/240377/

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      Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      and yet you claim that government is the solution!

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         Jeff Berndtposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Good government can help solve problems. Bad government never can.

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            dutchman1951posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            good goverment = oxymoron!

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         John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Corrupt government is no more of a solution than corrupt business.

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            Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            a corrupt business never has a monopoly.
            
            any government always has monopoly.

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               John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Evan, why aren't the businesses who poisoned these workers compensating them then?

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                  Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  probably because they know that the government won't enforce the law.
                  
                  ... kind of makes you wonder what life would be like if we had competition in the court system and law enforcement...

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                     John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Oh you are a card Evan, best laugh I've had all day

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      TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Actaully Rick Scott had nothing to do with that Co. during that crime. he aquired it after the deed had been done. It was well looked into here in FL.

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         John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         What has that to do with him vetoing a bill to pay compensation?

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            TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Did you see anywhere my answer adresses that? I hope you don't, because I did not. I am addressing the assertion of the poster about the healthcare Co. That is all.
            
            As for the other... I have not looked into that, so I have no opinion as of yet on that issue. Should I be like alot of the leftists I know and comment on something I have no clue about, as though i am an expert?
            
            How many of you have actually looked into it and not based your opinion on a column on the internet? I bet you haven't. But I could be wrong, you could have records and info right on your lap and be making an informed decision... but I doubt it.

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               John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               In other words then you'll just distract from the main issue to give you a breathing space to think of a way to blame it on the left?

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                  TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  No... what a joke.
                  
                  I stated plainly I have not looked into it, that is rather as simple, and as plain as it gets for an answer.
                  
                  And like I said... the issue of the healthcare Co. is in the op post also, and I have the right to answer anything that is raised in the post.
                  
                  Too bad if you do not like it.
                  
                  What a twister of words and intent you are.

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                     John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Would it have been too difficult to make that clear in your early post? You know "I have no comment on the major point but. . ."

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                        TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        ---TMMasonposted 2 hours ago in reply to this
                        
                        Did you see anywhere my answer adresses that? I hope you don't, because I did not. I am addressing the assertion of the poster about the healthcare Co. That is all.
                        
                        As for the other... I have not looked into that, so I have no opinion as of yet on that issue. Should I be like alot of the leftists I know and comment on something I have no clue about, as though i am an expert? ---
                        
                        I did, and if you had read it instead of just trying to start an argument with me you would have seen it. Just scroll up a lil, (about 4 comments) and it is there for everyone to see. But your blinded by your dis-like for me... and it shows.

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                           John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Er, your first post and the post that I refer to is:-
                           
                           Actaully Rick Scott had nothing to do with that Co. during that crime. he aquired it after the deed had been done. It was well looked into here in FL.
                           
                           Twist on dude.

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                              TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              I did not say my first post, the one 4 up from your remark about clearity, stated it perfectly clearly. You should have read that one also. So keep on hatin and twistin john. It suits you well.

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                                 John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 Maybe not but I was referring to your first post. 
                                 Seems to me you're the one spewing out hate.

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         rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         That is not true. The medicare fraud took place while Scott was running Columbia/HCA!  Profit went before patient care. When the fine was imposed, he had already resigned. He's devious. He is nothing but a corrupt liar, one of the Koch brothers 'bought and paid for politicians'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIYad3Tv … r_embedded
         
         From Washington Post's Ezra Klein.
         (Don Burk - Associated Press) Florida Gov. Rick Scott is one of the most entertainingly shameless figures in American political life. In the 1990s, Scott headed Columbia/HCA Healthcare, the largest for-profit hospital in America. While Scott was running Columbia/HCA Healthcare, it got involved in a bit — okay, a lot — of fraud. As Forbes reported, the company “increased Medicare billings by exaggerating the seriousness of the illnesses they were treating. It also granted doctors partnerships in company hospitals as a kickback for the doctors referring patients to HCA. In addition, it gave doctors ‘loans’ that were never expected to be paid back, free rent, free office furniture, and free drugs from hospital pharmacies.”
         
         The scale of the fraud was so immense that Columbia/HCA Healthcare ended up paying more than $2 billion (PDF) back to the federal government in the single largest fraud case in history. (The previous record holder? Drexel Burnham.) Scott resigned shortly before the judgment came down.
         
         The only followers he has in Florida are the Tea Party activists and some conservative Republicans.
         The articles previously posted on this thread give a pretty good picture of someone more interested in running the state like a business rather than governing. He campaigned on jobs, and he's slashing them faster than you can say 'super villan'. He doesn't really care about the people he's hurting. I've never disliked a governor as much as I do this one. His cuts in education will continue to discourage businesses from locating here - so where are these jobs he's creating?  He's eliminating them.

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            lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Ha! Wouldn't you know. Par for the course.
            
            Republicorps, USA.

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   AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

   Scott is cutting the budget a lot.  There are many people affected.  That's what happens when government grows too large.  It hurts like hell to cut it back.  But should he pretend the sky's the limit?  Like Obama is doing?  Reality is hard.
   
   http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/g … 150127.ece

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      lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Let me guess....He's for more tax cuts right?
      
      Yeah...real hard isn't it?
      
      You just take from thowe who really need it, and give it to your political donors.
      
      Let business keep on with their subsidy welfare too, right?
      
      Of course.
      It's just so dam hard.
      SNARK.
      
      It's easy to cut peope off at the knees who have no power....why doesn't he try cutting from REAL tax-takers.....he wouldn't dare.

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         TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         No we can leave the taxes alone, Chris. We will simply cut the unions from our govt. and save millions, if not billions from that.
         
         There, you happy now?

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            lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            No--make those who have had a party on the backs of us all finally pay up!
            
            It's easy to see who it it.....juts check any income chart from 2000-2008.....BINGO!
            
            Empty out the Swiss bank accounts from thieves and liars.
            Ditto for companies who got tax breaks for moving their companies overseas....give it back!
            
            Knock off the disparity in taxing....labor is taxed much higher than wealth....wth?
            
            In fact, you can leave 90% of us alone, and get it all from that 10%....our problems would be solved.

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               TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I would love to see Dodd and Frank and all those Polosi-ites and Dems, and the Progressives Right stripped of all their wealth and thrown out of this country for their treason.
               
               And you obviously haven't heard of the death tax eh? %0+ percent of inheritance gone to the Gov.
               
               And yes end ALL Subsidies, Gas, Oil, and green energy, and see who survives the free market.
               
               I agree.
               
               And you really believe the Dems in poffice are not wealthy also? Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Reid... c'mon... get real. They, and their Progressive cohorts are all crooks and you know it. On both sides they have screwed us.
               
               That is why true Consevative America is done with all of them. We will return to the true American system, and screw all the Keynsian and Marxist Socialist Bs they have implimented in the last century. It has nearly destroyed us. And we are done with it and them.

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   Stump Parrishposted 13 years ago

   But chris, what about those job creating tax cuts weve had for 11 years now? where would we be if these tax cuts hadn't been passed. Surely you aren't suggesting that companies and the wealthy actually pay their fair share are you? Do you know what that would do for the economy? I'm sure every corporation in this country would close it's doors. What would the oil companies use to buy politicians and ads that lie to the American people with, if we took away the 20 billion dollars worth of welfare these companies can't survive with out? The next thing you will be suggesting is that companies place the lives of their customers and most Americans above making an extra billion or two in profits.

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      lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I know....perish the thought!!
      
      Why then they might actually have to live up to the ideals we espouse to the world.....Eghads!
      
      You mean....like liberty and justice for all??? arrrrghhhh
      
      Equality under the law?  Nooooooooo
      
      Form a more perfect union, not a haven for robber barons? Ohhhh, the Paaaaaaiiiiiin
      
      How about this: Growe up Big Babies! Join the Human Race.

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         TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Robert Gibbs was on FOX news this morning and stated that... "Obama's deal for tax cuts in Dec is what has created the growth we have had in the last months.", that would be those tax cuts that Obama was forced to continue.
         
         But why bother with facts.

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            lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            That's BS...it's no more true now than before....all those cuts do is enlargen some already huge bank accounts.
            
            Anyone who says different is lying for political expediency.

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               TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               You take that up with Gibbs. I was rather shocked he blurted it out too.
               
               And yes, I know Gibbs is a liar, a master liar he has been for Obama for years, so I dont know what he thought he was doing. But I chalk it up to a freudian slip.
               
               Sometomes even a consumate liar tells the truth.

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                  lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Hahahaha...of course!
                  
                  Agree with you--truth teller. Disagree--consumate liar.
                  
                  Guess I didn't say it loud enough: POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY.
                  
                  You have all these "real" Americans that need placating....
                  
                  You know, like "tax-cuts create jobs".....anyone STILL believe that one?
                  
                  I got a bridge in Floriduh to sell you!
                  Or an Insurance plan!!

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                     TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     And I will say it again... since you cannot grasp it.
                     
                     Gibbs said what he said, and that is a fact. You do not like it, take it up with him. Your just mad because Obama's own man stated something that makes your side look like fools.
                     
                     Too bad.

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                        lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Oh I see....we look like fools cause he agrees with you! Yes well Allrighty then.
                        
                        What Gibbs said is not a fact. It is his opinion, which happens to jibe with your opinion. I disagree heartily.
                        
                        But it's nice that you agree with Obama's press secretary! Congrats!
                        
                        But, Gibbs is no more an authority than you or I.
                        
                        And in fact...as a person living in the underclass...I can say it is wholey not true!

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                           TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           It is an opinion based on his years of first hand knowledge of the situation and the policies Obama put in place.
                           
                           And it isn't that he agrees with me that makes the Left look foolish, it is that he said it, and it flys in the face off the Leftists own rantings. It is nothing to do with me, chris... it is all Gibbs and his contradiction of Lefty claims.
                           
                           And it is also a fact... but that is niether here nor there.

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                              lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              And whoever said Gibbs was a lefty?? Or Obama for that matter? Not me!
                              Obama is a pragmatist,not a lefty.
                              Gibbs? How would I know. He is a person with views....he tries to keep in line with Obama. That doesn't make him right! And neither does agreeing with you.
                              
                              And I'm with John....you all who always point the hate finger...are the most hateful of all! Simply by the sheer fact that you always accuse others, and always tell them how they think and feel!

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                                 TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 It is you Leftists here, and everywhere in this country, that thrive on hate.
                                 
                                 We ask simple questions, the same questions asked of all canidates, and you all scream hateful rhetoric at the top of your lungs. You all make McCarthy look like a pussy cat.
                                 
                                 You want to hear hate... listen to MSNBC.

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                                    lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    Riiiiight.
                                    
                                    "Obama has a deep-seated hatred of white people, Obama is anti-American, Obama wants to destroy America"....
                                    
                                    And that's not even getting into Russshhhhhh-Speak.
                                    "Obama is a Jack-Ass"...anyne who listens will know more.
                                    
                                    It's pure vile. You LOSE.

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