If George W Bush could run for office again, would you vote for him?

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   daskittlez69posted 13 years ago

   Clinton said yesterday that there's a "below zero" chance that she will challenge Obama.

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      Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I sometimes wonder if he's thinking of her as his VEEP this time around.
      She's clearly burnt out from running all over the world.
      Guess we'll see when we see.

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   fratjoe18posted 13 years ago

   George Bush is a true believer on war and crime. All the debt he put us in, if he was reelected our country would seize to exist. The problem with people is that they believe everything a politician says before election,When Obama was elected his famous speech of Yes we can turned into congress told me no every time he has a speech. It's hard for one man to control a country that is hard on poverty, drugs, and crime. that's why Obama is trying to get us involved. Everyone wants to complain about the country's weaknesses but no one wants to do anything about it. We all need to come together and fight for this country as one.

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      uncorrectedvisionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You do realize that Barrack Obama has over spent in three years what it took eight years for GWB to over spend.  That must be reassuring.

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         Jeff Berndtposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         But W overspent on stuff that goes boom; his spending wasn't much of an investment. Also, a lot of the spending under Obama is due to stuff that was put into place under W. Call it making excuses if you like; it doesn't change the fact that you're blaming Obama for stuff that happened before he was President.
         
         Deficit Spending to blow foreign people up? No big deal.
         Deficit spending to repair and upgrade domestic infrastructure, ensure everyone has access to healthcare, and educate our children? Cause for shrill, hysterical protest.
         Priorities? Priceless.

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            Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            agree
            
            I least Obama admit he has been a puppet, from the top/down and ask the people to change it from the bottom/up

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            uncorrectedvisionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            The last Bush deficit was $400 billion, that is $1.2 trillion less than BHO's lowest budget deficit.  The massive spending on infrastructure?  How many jobs did the Recovery Act produce?  How many durable jobs?  Didn't it create a lot of census taker jobs that last a few months?  Weren't we told that infrastructure repair was coming from that $870 billion sop to the unions?
            
            GWB was far from a saint and history will place him in the ranks of the presidents but, please, BHO has done more to stall this economy than any other president including Jimmy Carter and FDR.

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   awareposted 13 years ago

   Leading aint easy . try it.   lets see your approval ratings.
   lol im teaseing
   ray

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   MelissaBarrettposted 13 years ago

   You know, contrary to my liberal beliefs I can't help but like Palin on a personal level.  She actually seems to be someone I'd like to sit and have a cup of coffee with.  The only reason I would consider not running like hell to Canada were she elected (which ain't gonna ever happen) would be that she might do something to improve the situation of disabled children in the school system.  Unfortunately, it would probably be arming them.  I don't really think she is stupid, but I believe she is flighty.  The last thing that America needs is a flighty woman running the show.
   
   Bachmann is not flighty in the least, she's flat out stupid.  Glenn Beck can handle all of our budgeting needs!  She'll spend all her time destroying our environment and stomping out homosexuality.  Oh yes, and keeping vegetive patients alive against their family's will, sending all our women to back alley abortionists and respecting the value of life while also handing out guns randomly and supporting the death penalty.

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      uncorrectedvisionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      And there it is - because she hold views different than yours she is stupid.  Awesome, very ethnocentric of you.  Michelle Bachmann has a post graduate degree in tax law from William and Mary.  She must be smart about something.  But that is the template isn't it, Conservatives are evil and stupid.  Liberals are smart and compassionate.  Liberals object to the "black and white" perception of reality unless, of course, it is their "black and white."

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         MelissaBarrettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Actually, if I was ethnocentric I would vote for her.  She is a white woman from the United States.
         
         And I'm sure she knows quite a bit about tax law.  Good for her. 
         
         However statements like "Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn't even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas." make me think that she might be lacking in the "core knowledge" department.
         
         And not all conservatives are evil and stupid.  Bachmann is just stupid.  Limbaugh is just evil.  I know quite a few conservatives that are neither.  Unfortunately they aren't running for president.
         
         And I'm all about the grey...  send me a candidate that ISN'T black or white.  That realizes that there is something between the two polar opposites and I will most likely be inclined to vote for them.

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         PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         No, she said Bachmann is stupid and Limbaugh is evil.  Or, are you responding to some invisible liberal poster that only you can see? 

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      Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting perspective, Melissa.
      I don't think either Palin or Bachmann is stupid.
      Misguided, yes.
      Willfully ignorant of the facts, yes.
      Novelty candidates (or non-candidates, in Palin's case now).
      
      I don't see either one of them in the role of POTUS.
      However....
      It's beyond high time for the USA to have a woman president. We are so friggin' backward.
      As it is, there's too many people who simply cannot tolerate having a Black (or even half-Black) president.
      After this "grand experiment" in "alternative leaders" we'll probably have to revert back to at least 3 more terms of white males before America could even contemplate trying something new again.
      As a nation we're regressing, not moving forward.

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         MelissaBarrettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Oh I agree that it is time for a woman president, but if you put any woman who cannot be respected by other world leaders or half of the American population in there, its going to regress us even further.  A conservative Christian woman trying to face down the "infidels" better be so damn intelligent, self assured and charismatic that she can "shock and awe".  Bachmann doesn't have it.  Palin MIGHT have, if she didn't have that "teeheehee... oopsie" thing that made her so non-threatening to the conservative Christian males in the first place.
         
         The same goes with Congress. 
         
         Other than that, I completely disagree with them on pretty much every opinion they have.  I could possibly overlook that for an iota of a flicker of the potential for strong leadership.  Ain't happening with them though.  Whether stupid or just ignorant, I question their functional intelligence.  I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
         
         You put a woman like that into the white house and I promise you there will not be another for decades... It's not worth it.

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            Kathleen Cochranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            We've had two presidential candidates no one could call stupid by any stretch of the imagination: Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Dole.  They were both undermined by their husbands who saw their wives' campaigns as a chance to put themselves back in the spotlight.  Elizabeth Dole slipped into oblivion.  Hillary was absolutely hated when she ran- intelligent or not.  She's proven to be an excellent secretary of state, as was the very intelligent woman before her, Secretary Rice.  Rice was in the wrong camp, but nobody ever called her stupid.  There are plenty of good female candidates.  They just aren't coming to the forefront and won't as long as the Palins and Bachman's do.

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               Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               And let's not forget Hill's buddy Madeline Allbright!!
               Another fabulous SOS.
               Agree on Rice. It's a shame her name will forever be linked with Bush/Cheney.

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                  uncorrectedvisionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Madeline Allbright!!
                  cleared the deck for the problems we are now facing with North Korea - awesome.

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                     Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     North Korea is our ally!
                     Just ask Sarah Palin!!

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                        MelissaBarrettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        +1

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                        daskittlez69posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Nice MM

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                        uncorrectedvisionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Oh, I thought it was the 57th state, just ask Barry.

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                           Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           +1 UCV!

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               Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Bachmann's not only smart, she's strong and focused.
               Why do people bash her?

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                  Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  For one, she's a Conservative woman, not one of theirs.
                  
                  Second, she's a lot like Palin and that's all some need to know to bash her.
                  
                  Third, she's Tea Party Conservative. That brings out the fangs and claws of the Democratically solely-owned liberal media.
                  
                  Just my opinion.

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                     Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I think you're right!

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                     PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Fourth through Tenth:
                     
                     "Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn't even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas." -Rep. Michelle Bachmann, April, 2009
                     
                     "But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States. ... I think it is high time that we recognize the contribution of our forbearers who worked tirelessly -- men like John Quincy Adams, who would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, botching American history while speaking at an Iowan's for Tax Relief event in January 2011. The Founding Fathers did not work to end slavery, and John Quincy Adams was not one of the Founding Fathers.
                     
                     "I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, on the 1976 Swine Flu outbreak that happened when Gerald Ford, a Republican, was president, April 28, 2009
                     
                     "There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, Oct. 2006
                     
                     "Why should I go and do something like that? But the Lord says, 'Be submissive wives; you are to be submissive to your husbands." -Rep. Michele Bachmann, recalling in a 2006 speech at a Megachurch in Minneapolis that pursuing tax law wasn't her choice, but she did so at the urging of her husband because she was certain God was speaking through him
                     
                     "Well what I want them to know is just like, John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That's the kind of spirit that I have, too" -Rep. Michele Bachmann, getting her John Waynes mixed up during an interview after launching her presidential campaign in Waterloo, Iowa, where she grew up. The beloved movie star John Wayne was born in Winterset, Iowa, three hours away. The John Wayne that Waterloo was home to is John Wayne Gacy, a notorious serial killer. (June 2011)
                     
                     "If we took away the minimum wage -- if conceivably it was gone -- we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level." Michele Bachmann, Jan. 2005

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                        Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Admittedly, taken individually, these quotes don't make a lot of sense. But if you follow her logic (*gasp*) they start to come into focus nicely.
                        
                        For example:
                        
                        JQ Adams did hang around with the founding fathers.
                        I mean, his dad was one. And he went over on the boat with him to France where he got to watch Benny Franklin in action. Tommy J was his dad's best friend (possibly even his godfather -- I'd have to look that up -- or maybe I could just MAKE IT UP )
                        
                        Not only that, but we cannot prove that the FFs were not spinning in their graves for almost a century, unable to enter into eternal REST until slavery was extinguished.
                        
                        It's no doubt true that there isn't even one study that can be produced that disproves this. However, I bet if I contacted one of those hundreds and hundreds of Nobel Prize scientists, they might be willing to undertake the challenge. I could offer him/her the job at "whatever level."
                        
                        Whaddya think, PP?

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                           Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           You might want to seek the help of someone other than Nobel Prize-winning scientists. Since people like Arafat (1994), Carter (2002), Gore (2007), and Obama (2009) got one, they don't count for much except nice paper weights.
                           
                           Just sayin'.

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                              Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              None of those Nobel Prize recipients received their award in science.
                              Bachmann is specifically talking about SCIENTISTS who have won Nobel Prizes who also believe in intelligent design. She states there are hundreds and hundreds of them.
                              Truly, if she's correct, I will agree with you, Longhunter.
                              The Nobel Prize has been compromised, bastardized, and rendered completely meaningless!

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                                 Longhunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 Science. Peace. Literature. It doesn't matter. My point was the Nobel Prize doesn't count for much anymore unless you're a Liberal Elitist. It makes a great paper weight, nothing more.
                                 
                                 As for Bachmann, I don't like her either, MM, but at least she makes the rest of the candidates look sane to a certain extent. A useful idiot, shall we say.

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                                    Mighty Momposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    That's so true.
                                    And oh so sad.
                                    
                                    "Who are you voting for?"
                                    "I'm voting for the second least insane candidate as measured against Michelle Bachmann."

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                           PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Your BachmannLogic is exceptional!  Now, all you need is permission from your husband to exercise it.  That is, if God decides to command it by speaking through him.

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                        uncorrectedvisionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Benjamin Franklin - Founding Father - established the earliest abolitionist society in America
                        George Washington - Founding Father - used the manumission laws of New York state to free the slaves he left behind when the capital moved to D.C.
                        
                        and here is a good little bit of history for you including all those Founding Fathers still in Congress and one that was President.
                        
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_Prohib … _of_Slaves

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   PrettyPantherposted 13 years ago

   What is hilarious is your ignorance, stated so unequivocally and without a single bit of humility, about what liberals believe, what liberals do, what liberals fear, ad nauseum.  Practically every post you write is full of your supposed in-depth knowledge of "liberals."  And you are so utterly wrong that we can only laugh!
   
   As for the media and Palin, the U.S. media is a joke.  They run around like puppies looking for the latest cat to chase. 
   
   
   
   And don't bother replying that the media is "liberal."  The only media to employ her in a serious capacity is Fox News.
   
   

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   allchatposted 13 years ago

   And obama for putting the lid on the coffin!

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   suzettenaplesposted 13 years ago

   No!  I believe W's policies were the root cause of everything we are going through today.  The wars, the economy, jobs, deficit - all originally began in  his presidency.  Even the first bailout we had actually was formed by W and Paulson - that's during W's presidency.  So, no, I could not in good conscious ever vote for him.

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   daskittlez69posted 13 years ago

   Did you celebrate Elvis' birthday as well Brenda?  Or do you want to have the spirit of a serial killer, John Wayne Gacy?

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      Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No and no.
      
      And...huh?  What do you mean?

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   Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago

   Oh never mind.  I looked that up online.  So...Bachmann makes some mistakes in speaking. That's not unusual for anyone, Left or Right or whatever. 
   It's the gaffes that aren't really gaffes that I'm worried about.   Like when Obama seemed to not know the difference between Muslim and Christian,  or how many States are in the Union..

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    d-richie93posted 13 years ago

    hell no! in his favor he has done some level of good to America. But I think he has done enough damage.

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    freesaleposted 13 years ago

    Isn't the economy in shambles enough already?

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