This is really hard to believe. A major news network would do something like this? Does anyone know if it's true that NBC did this?
I don't know if its true or not, but the reason they would do it is to give a skewed version of reality. In other words, NBC would lie to achieve an unstated goal.
I don't see anything in the Wiki article about this. Can you point me to your source?
Scroll down to near the bottom. According to Wiki, NBC has edited the tape to make it look like Trayvon's color was important to Zimmerman when in reality it was only mentioned after the 911 operator specifically asked what color he was.
That belies his history though. He has a history of complaining about black "hoodlum" kids, according to neighbors.
and he called him a f*cking c**n. We will find out when that part is analyzed.
@mikelong and wilderness:
Found it! Thanks.
Sure seems true, habee. The UN-edited version went something like this:
Zimmerman: "This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about."
911 operator: "Okay. And this guy, is he white, black, or Hispanic?"
Zimmerman: "He looks black."
NBC, for shame!
The media has already determined that Zimmerman is a guilty racist murderer, and they need all the help they can get to prove themselves right even if it means publishing flat out lies.
Al Sharpton and Spike Lee are both irresponsible idiots who have put peoples lives in danger because of their hateful, race baiting, bias.
From the New York Times
April 6, 2012, 7:05 pm
NBC Fires Producer of Misleading Zimmerman Tape
By BRIAN STELTER
"NBC News has fired a producer who was involved in the production of a misleading segment about the Trayvon Martin case in Florida.
The person was fired on Thursday, according to two people with direct knowledge of the disciplinary action who declined to be identified discussing internal company matters. They also declined to name the fired producer. A spokeswoman for NBC News declined to comment."
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2 … rman-tape/
If they did, and Wiki knows, don't you think Fox and Limbaugh know, and would use it to death?
And wasn't it Drudge who posted doctored pics of Trayvon to make him look bad?
I haven't seen pics of Trayvon on Drudge. I found this on Youtube, which plays the edited NBC/MSNBC clip before playing the entire call:
I'm surprised Rush hasn't run with this. Maybe he's waiting until Monday.
LMC, this is all I can find about fake pics of Trayvon on Drudge:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/media-ma … tin-photo/
It's an apology from Media Matters for accusing Drudge of posting a fake pic, when it was an actual pic. Evidently, it was Michelle Malkin who had posted a photo of the wrong Trayvon Martin.
Michelle Malkin, eh? What can you say about that? And Ann Coulter said the Trayvon supporters are like the KKK. So demented and twisted. As if she doesn't know what the KKK are all about.
And someone hacked into his twitter account too. Rotten behavior on a murdered kid. Has got to be a reaon why.
Why are they smearing Trayvon?
I think the reason is that people are trying to find out the part of the story that the news media want to neglect. If the major media had reported full details from the beginning, it probably would have received as little attention as stories of other tragic murders.
The whole Martin-Zimmerman story is a tragedy. Why do the media have to make it worse by reporting only the elements that are lifely to inflame and divide the country?
I don't know, LMC. I want the truth! Not the edited NBC version of the 911 call OR the fake Malkin pics. Journalism really is dead.
As for the Trayvon supporters who want justice and truth, I fully support them. I don't support the wanted posters from the BPs. And I'm tired of reading about the pot residue on Trayvon's plastic bag. So what? If he smoked weed, does that mean he deserved to die?
If Trayvon smoked a little weed that means he is a flown blown crack head and useless to society.
And if Zimmerman made a point out of Trayvon being black then he is a full blown racist and probably out on a killing spree like the KKK he obviously is.
This is what sells papers and makes news. A sensational and emotional statement, whether that statement is true or not, whether it is spun or not, whether it has anything to do with the real news or not. And that's what the news is about any more - making money from large numbers of viewers instead of honest investigative reporting.
If you can make Trayvon out to be a druggie, casing the neighborhood, (without ever quite saying so) then the pot haters of the country will glorify Zimmerman and vilify Trayvon.
And if you can make Zimmerman out to be a racist out on a killing rampage (simply by a little careful editing - not really lying!) then everyone will hate him instead and come back for more news of this new devil in our midst.
If you can manage both at the same time, why you will have the whole country sitting in front of your news program, drooling their hate and demanding more of the same! $$$$!
Sad and disgusting.
Excellent analysis, Wilder. How would Walter Cronkite have handled the situation? Not like the way it's being handled, I'm thinking.
I think you're right, Habee. Maybe I'm naive, maybe I simply don't remember, but our "news" seems to have changed.
There were always editorials and news articles were always somewhat slanted, but the basic news used to be just that - a reporting of facts. Now it seems to always be an attempt to spin it to something else, to raise emotions and anger so that the reader will conform to a particular viewpoint and come back for more to feed that anger.
NBC, simply by quoting only selective portions of a conversation, has managed here to make racism a major part of their story. This angers readers and convinces the gullible that it is true which in turn makes them want to hear more of the same. Similarly, the news has reported that some cops wanted an arrest but were denied that action - what we don't every hear is the "why". This adds fuel to the anger, once more bringing readers and viewers back. I'm sure the news organizations know (or could easily find out) that "why" but they don't as it might calm the anger a little and without high emotions that viewer might not be so eager for more information. A government coverup or conspiracy is much more salable than simple facts where the viewer says "Oh, I see. Guess we'll have to wait to see what happens". One brings the viewer back each day for more, one leaves that viewer content to wait and let the information come in whenever it happens to.
I don't see Walter Cronkite handling this story the way that we see today. While Cronkite might give an opinion, it was clearly an opinion - he didn't spin facts or report only portions of the truth that agreed with his opinion. He told it like it was and the viewer was left to make their own informed opinion.
Now we get the Limbaugh's of the world reporting only selective facts and massively spinning even that little bit while projecting huge outrage by the way the "information" is delivered into the microphone. All the time raking in gobs and gobs of those wonderful $$$ doing it. Limbaugh is not there to inform the people; he is there to get rich and is smart enough to have found the road to gold in the "news" world.
Totally on point, my friend. "News" has definitely changed. It seems to be mostly about ratings/money/sensationalism now. Sad.
Yes, habee, the news industry has changed. People now have more information to process and they must spend more time and energy sorting and verifying facts. The birth of twenty-four news channels, access to the internet superhighway, and the spread of global competition leave no time for checking facts, verifying rumors, or quality journalism. The emphasis has shifted from getting the facts right to getting the story to the public fast. News resources today focus less on accurate reporting of events and more on the public’s reaction to events. The likes of Walter Cronkite no longer exist. Just like filling the gas tank or checking out in the supermarket, the trend is to shift more of the work onto the consumer.
Unfortunately, I think the whole point is to make it look like Trayvon really did deserve to die, and poor poor Zimmerman was only doing the right thing.
And if NBC did mess with the tapes to cause contention, then they are no better than Fox.
We want an arrest. Period. It's the idiots that didn't do it that have caused this problem, And it's systemic in America.
Here's what the Right news has done with their spin: who's using the media here?
and apparently, most Americad think this is credible. SMH
I just wonder what Zimmerman would have done if Trayvon had been a white youth walking the street. Would the 911 call still have been made? Would "suspicious behavior" still been perceived?
At this point, I have serious doubts about this.
In terms of "news" changing....it has always been this way.
The "Sleepy Lagoon Murder" that never was.....
The "dangerous Mexicans and their Marijuana"........William Randolf Hearst was the king of media driven b.s.
Yellow Journalism making b.s. cases to bring the U.S. to war with Mexico, and then again with Cuba and Spain.... This is nothing new.....not in American journalism/media.
Per usual, these high profile, widely reported news matters are beaten to death. Every TV Station, radio, press release and the internet news, as well. In a matter of 10 days, we can hear as many as 20 variations of the same event.
The public jumps in, and a flood of opinions & comments flows and "speculation" runs rampant. This is all well and good in that it seems to satisfy the need to know and soothe the "accident" stalkers and onlookers.
In terms of TRUTH, FACT and the reality of a situation, we, (the public) know very little about, if at all. This is in the hands of the law enforcement, investigators and Prosecutors, who, for many reasons are rarely forthcoming, especially in the beginning of a case.
My heart breaks for the family of the young man who lost his life....WHATEVER the reason. It saddens and angers me that countless lives are lost daily in our country, senselessly.
I have listened and have my private thoughts and speculation. The same goes for you, I'm sure. If we exchange our opinions and discuss this issue, it may be helpful to US in our desire to understand.
But the reality remains, that is all we can accomplish. With all due respect to News Organizations and reporters everywhere, with little exception, they rely on what WE rely on, as they are "people" too. Their information goes public, but the stories are repetitive and continual. Hopefully, we can use our intelligence, common sense and patience, as we wait to see and hear what comes to be. And take it all in with that helpful "grain of salt."
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cnn-iso … ry-likely/
This is part of that recording as well....and it's far more telling than Zimmerman's saying Martin was Black.
The truth is found in the muttered utterances.....
Now it's getting to the meat:
"Trayvon Martin's parents will ask the U.S. Justice Department to review a local Florida prosecutor's interactions with police investigating the teen's shooting death, the family's lawyer said.
The Justice Department launched an investigation into Martin's death on March 19, but the family is now asking it to look for possible interference by State's Attorney Norm Wolfinger's office with Sanford, Florida, Police Detective Chris Serino, attorney Ben Crump said.
The Martin family will send a formal request to the Justice Department Monday, Crump told CNN Sunday."
This is the guy Gordon Duff wrote about....the NRA guy. Now they are getting somewhere, IMO.
Thanks for this link, Mike. It is my opinion that a modified audio track is no more reliable than a digitally modified image.
Probably because the Casey Anthony story petered out and they needed to perpetuate another story with legs
Editing the 9-1-1 call is nothing new for the televised media. Same reason they edit everything else that doesn't fit their pre-conceived conviction of what is 'right' and what is 'wrong' according to the left. Unbiased journalism is a thing of the past.
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