Indian home minister resigned today

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   JYOTI KOTHARIposted 16 years ago

   There was a massive terrorist attack on Mumbai , India, this wednesday. Terrorists targetted Indian icon and herritage site hotel Taj along with hotel Oberoi. more than 150 people killed and 400 people injured.
   
     Commandos of NSG with other security agencies came into rescue and all but one terrorists shot dead. One terrorist caught alive.
   
     Shivraj Patil, home minister of India, has resigned today taking the responsibility of security failure.
   
     P. Chidambaram, finance minister, has taken his charge.
   
      Jyoti Kothari

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      countrywomenposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      I never really understood this concept of resignation due to "moral responsibility" and what purpose it serves. Does it set right anything or does it absolve anything. There are scores of people who have to discuss & act on the "intelligence" and also many things need continuity to do root cause analysis. Every time such incidents happen(like bomb blasts, train accidents...) we have "resignations" or inquiry commissions.
      
      If some one hasn't been attending or doing a pathetic job they can terminated after doing a thorough investigation but finding a "scape goat" isn't going to achieve anything in the long run and seems rather a political stunt to press for such resignations.

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   VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 16 years ago

   There were several bombings and terrorist attacks recently.  The ex-Home Minister used to meet the press and say : "we are taking all necessary steps; the terrorists will be caught and they will be punished"..   The next day he will go to his work as usual.  His speeches and assurances never suited public anger.  Better he goes.   
   
   Instead of repeated statements for all cases, he should have assembled the intelligence and security agencies, consulted them and come out with strong words which will have impact on the public and terrorists.... in their own ways.  It is the duty of the Minister / govt. to coordinate various agencies in times of need.

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   JYOTI KOTHARIposted 16 years ago

   Countrywomen and Venugopal,
    
      A CEO of a corporation has to resign after a collapse. You are right Venu. The home minister is not a scape goat. Generally we make lower level people escape goats and the big fish remains at their office. The HM has shown utter negligence to public security.

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      countrywomenposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Jyoti- Even in those rare cases when CEO of a corporation does resign (they do so with a golden parachute and lots of goodies). Hence they are actually not held accountable or taken to task but letting them off the heat by allowing them to resign.
      My point was who so ever is in power is questioned by the opposition who may or may not react exactly the same way when they come to power. Such calls for resignation could be politically motivated without serving any purpose in the long run.
      
      Does someone wonder what happens after a new person comes and in case he/she doesn't have all the answers due to lack of continuity in the investigation. Those who have resigned will try to go out of the public eye and lie low for a while then wait for an opportunity to come back to power by repeating the same cry for resignation to the new person/government that comes to power.
      
      I can only speak from my own example when I write a software code that is having a few bugs then I need to fix it on top of my regular work. If I write too much of buggy code then I will not be asked to resign immediately but will not get any new work and slowly will have to cross train others before I am phased out(and the new person takes over my work completely).
      
      Coming to the media it is a difficult balancing act (one can't tell the media all that the government is planning as that would give away our strategy to deal with the terrorists and at the same time one has to appear calm so that no panic sets in the public eye)
      
      Well what I said earlier is from my personal experience. But I hope others see the point I am trying to make.

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   weblogposted 16 years ago

   Resignation by this time is mere escapism and it's unfair.

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   VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 16 years ago

   In future, no one should escape responsibility by resigning their posts. If they are made accountable by including their names in the accused-list, they will attend to their work properly.  In all the investigations and enquiries which follows, Mr. Shivraj Patil should be called and enquired.

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   JYOTI KOTHARIposted 16 years ago

   Politicians and officials must be held responsible to the public. After all they are the pay masters.

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   knolyourselfposted 16 years ago

   Well at least your guys resign. They have some honor. Have to go a long way back in US, to find a national politician that ever resigned from anything, no matter the degree of blunder.

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      countrywomenposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Knolyourself- I can't speak of the long history of US politicians but I just know that Donald Rumsfeld resigned as the Defense Secretary on Nov 6, 2006.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld

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   knolyourselfposted 16 years ago

   countrywomen: "Donald Rumsfeld resigned as the Defense Secretary on Nov 6, 2006." The thinking in many quarters is that he was forced to resign. Gates replaced him, and the thinking again goes, that it was to insure that Rumsfeld did not start a war with Iran.

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      countrywomenposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      knolyourself- I was just answering your question whether anyone has resigned or not. What was the reason behind is another issue. By the way politicians would be politicians and since when did politicians resign purely on "moral grounds" if not pressurized in some way...LOL

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   knolyourselfposted 16 years ago

   "moral grounds" I am saying that at least the impression here is that some politicians do resign on moral grounds, in countries other than  the US.

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      countrywomenposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      knolyourself - "moral grounds" is the expression they give to the gullible electorate to get that impression...hehe
      
      By the way my friend I hope you didn't feel bad about me pointing that out

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    knolyourselfposted 16 years ago

    "By the way my friend I hope you didn't feel bad about me pointing that out" My friend have no fear, I will not nor shall not feel bad. I feel great all the time. All is fun.

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       countrywomenposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       knolyourself- Then I am thankful to the politicians who have given us an opportunity to have fun at their expense....LOL

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    knolyourselfposted 16 years ago

    I agree. Would be boring without the politicians. But me thinks one must be somewhat cynical, for a proper appreciation of this kind of fun.

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    JYOTI KOTHARIposted 16 years ago

    It is not just fun. Indian people have united this kind of politicians. I hope this will long last and change the destinee of the country.
    
       Jyoti kothari

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 16 years ago

    There is no one called "politician".    It is common man who takes interest in public affairs and stand in elections, if given chance.    Then we call him politician. He is and should be the bridge between government and people.   Because of some erratic people, we need not blame all.   After all, Gandhiji, Nehru, Indira, Rajiv, Vajpayee are all politicians.  What did they stand for?  Should all their sacrifices go waste because of some politicians?
    
    If we want to get rid of politicians, we will have to change the constitution and ban all political parties... which will eventually lead to a dictator.!  Then who will you blame if he commits some mistakes?  He will not allow you!   
    
    Politics is polluted by politicians like those who cries "Mumbai for Mumbaikars"  "Politicians should not come to Mumbai"... and so on... as if they have bought Mumbai.  That city is a national property like any other city.   But those people laud the armed forces for saving them, without knowing  that they were sent to safeguard people only by politicians, ie., those in power.   Without orders, from political leaders, how can security forces move?

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