How is the SC defined marriage, not a change from the traditional marriage?

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   bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years ago

   How is the SC defined marriage, not a change from the traditional marriage?
   
   I am really tired of getting personal attacks on these kinds of questions.
   I ask these questions because I see a difference between the Old and the New SC defined marriage.
   The SC decision is not going to change perception of the people, any more than the SC decision on Abortion.
   So asking about salutations, and referencing L and G same sex. It is still same sex marriage.
   It was the lgbt that pushed the marriage issue, so I asked where does the B come into play in the marriage?
   The salutations are different no Mr Mrs, Husband Husband, Wife Wife, and the B???
   Attacks on the author not allowed

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   dashingscorpioposted 8 years ago

   
   
   How is the SC defined marriage, not a change from the traditional marriage?
   Nothing changed for heterosexual couples who want to get married! The law just gives people permission to marry who were once forbid to do so.
   The change was same sex couples to have the option to marry.
   (Laws aren't about changing perception but guaranteeing benefits/rights.)
   It use to be against the law for interracial couples to marry in some states until the 1967 SC decision of Loving VS Virginia.
   Just because the SC struck down the law did not change the hearts of those who are racist or don't believe people should date outside of their race. The new decision was for the benefit of those who do.
   Having said that typically over the course of time people tend to be more tolerant with each new generation. A Gallup poll recently stated 60% of Americans are in favor of "same sex" marriage. My guess is just 10 or 20 years ago the number would have been much smaller!
   Each generation is more socially liberal than the previous one.
   The intent of laws is not to change anyone's heart or mind but to help those who were restricted. Just because something is legal doesn't mean one has to partake in it or even like it.
   Essentially it has no effect on (their) lifestyle unless they're gay.
   My guess is if you're being attacked it may be because some folks may think you hate the idea of gays and lesbians being allowed to marry and have the same benefits as heterosexual couples.
   For those who share that opinion people want to know why it bothers them so much! Nothing changed in their life, they still can marry whomever. Why do they care if a gay couple can now marry?
   The LGBT agenda was to legally not have their marital unions marginalized or have less benefits than heterosexual marital unions.
   It's not about us heterosexuals. As for salutations I wouldn't worry too much about that. Your gay and lesbian friends will tell you what they prefer. I agree with you that personal attacks shouldn't be allowed.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      that really didn't answer the ?
      Interracial marriages didn't change marriage, and when miscegenation was repealed, there was no changes made to marriage. One man One Woman, husband wife. Same sex marriage changed the requirements.

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      dashingscorpioposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I agreed with you that laws don't change hearts and minds!
      Marriage is now a legal status regardless of race or sexual orientation. How does the law affect your choices? Same sex marriage expands the definition of marriage. It doesn't affect us.

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   jlparkposted 8 years ago

   Not sure what you mean about the 'b' - if you mean bisexuals - bisexuals are still bisexual if they are in a straight or gay relationship - they don't need both same and opposite sex in the same relationship to be bisexual as bisexuality is about orientation - they are attracted to both genders equally - but usually happy to settle down with either in a long term relationship.
   
   So in marriage equality - they can know marry which ever gender they fell in love with.
   
   Now about 'traditional marriage' - the fact that one cannot sell their daughter for 3 goats and a cow (and against her will) means we've already changed
   From traditional marriage.
   The fact that both parties must consent to the marriage is a change, that the woman is not property once (and usually before) married is another change.
   
   The fact that one man cannot have several wives in most of the western world means it's been changed (Arabic countries can have multiple wives).
   
   So, it would depend on what version of traditional marriage one is meaning - it's changed so much from when it was first formalised.
   
   Two people of consenting age, entering into a marriage together that they both agree to, because they love each other and wish to share their lives together and also share in the benefits afforded to married couples is what marriage is about.
   
   If people are trying to say 'but see they removed gender from the equation, and it changed the whole thing entirely!!!' - I'm not sure how OTHER than gender - and really, does someone else's marriage affect anyone bar those in it? It doesn't Change it - it strengthened it - now it doesn't matter who you love, everyone is equal.

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