Atheists are closer to God than your average Christian

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  1. janesix profile image59
    janesixposted 5 years ago

    Especially the vocal ones, like the ones we all know on HP.

    Atheism is just a stage you go through before you truly find God. That's one of the reasons I love you guys so much.

    1. Disappearinghead profile image75
      Disappearingheadposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Got any popcorn while I watch this one pad out?

      1. janesix profile image59
        janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I know I'm always half joking on here. But only half. I had this insight today, gotta follow my Wyrd.

    2. Uninvited Writer profile image82
      Uninvited Writerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Tell that to Christopher Hitchens...

      1. janesix profile image59
        janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I don't know who that is.

    3. A Troubled Man profile image59
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      That's really insulting to an atheist who wouldn't want anything to do with such a vicious and malevolent God.



      Kinda like religion is a stage you go through before you truly find reality?

      1. janesix profile image59
        janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        The Bible God is just someone's imagination. Who knows what he is truly like?

  2. getitrite profile image76
    getitriteposted 5 years ago

    http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp270/EricV1/troll.jpg

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
      Uninvited Writerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry, I forgot smile

      1. janesix profile image59
        janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I'm not a troll. You just don't like what I have to say. Get over it.

        1. getitrite profile image76
          getitriteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          What you have to say is an absurd opinion, based purely on conjecture  And there is also an implication of superiority in that you suggest that the atheist is at an inferior stage of development, as opposed to silly adults, believing in whimsical nonsense.  How ridiculous.

          1. janesix profile image59
            janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I never said it was anything but my opinion. In fact, I said it was insight.

            1. getitrite profile image76
              getitriteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              So just show us where god is, and then, case closed.  Thanks.

              1. janesix profile image59
                janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                lol

                I really don't care that you don't believe in God. That's your loss.

                I don't have to prove anything. You don't like it, stay out of religious forums. Case closed.

                1. getitrite profile image76
                  getitriteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Yet you say that atheist have not found this god....a god that you don't even have evidence for, nor do you feel obligated to provide any evidence for.   Yeah...makes perfect sense.  lol


                  Why?  So that dishonest people can go unchallenged?

                  1. janesix profile image59
                    janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    I'm dishonest because I believe in God and don't have proof? That's logic for you.

                    If I were to claim proof, that would be dishonesty.

                2. psycheskinner profile image83
                  psycheskinnerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  You aren't in a religion-specific forum. The title includes an "and".

                  1. janesix profile image59
                    janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Do you actually have something usful to add to this discussion, psychskinner?

        2. Uninvited Writer profile image82
          Uninvited Writerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I didn't call you a troll.

          1. janesix profile image59
            janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            You're right. You just insinuated it.

  3. wilderness profile image97
    wildernessposted 5 years ago

    Well, he'd better get cracking, then - I don't have all that many years left!

    Although, come to think of it, it does seem rather common that as people age into their senior years, and the fact of their mortality is driven home with a sledge hammer, that their "conversion" becomes more probably. 

    Fear of death does that, I guess, although I'm not sure that it's "finding God" as much as allaying that fear...

    1. janesix profile image59
      janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Unless of course you believe in reincarnation.

      1. wilderness profile image97
        wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        True.  I haven't seen too many free souls floating around, looking for a vacant body, though, so that belief is also as foreign as that of God.

    2. profile image0
      Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I've noticed that as people age they can go either way. The most vocal atheists are usually the older farts, just as the most irritating evangelical is usually the old guy who changed his tune. Advanced age appears to make people think they know what they are talking about. Even if no one agrees with them.

      1. wilderness profile image97
        wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Well, yes!  We old geezers know everything there is to know. smile

        Funny things is, though, that there is at least some truth to it.  I've had my nose rubbed into disagreeable facts often enough to know the world isn't as I think it should be - you youngsters all to often live in a fantasy world that way.

        1. profile image0
          Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Are you a geezer? I was actually thinking about two men I know and Mark Knowles. And Qwark. I think that was his name. He was a funny old man.

          But, so you know. I don't consider you to be a vocal atheist. You are genuinely interested and interesting. It isn't as if you have an axe to grind or really care, past a point.

  4. peeples profile image95
    peeplesposted 5 years ago

    There are 2 70 something year old atheists on here that I know of. I think maybe you're god forgot to move them to that next stage.

    1. janesix profile image59
      janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps it takes more than one lifetime.

  5. getitrite profile image76
    getitriteposted 5 years ago

    http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff86/donvader88/Myspace%20stuff/Logic.jpg

    1. janesix profile image59
      janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I didn't claim to possess logic. I choose to believe without it.

      You can insult me all you want, all is fair in love, war, and religious debates baby.

      1. psycheskinner profile image83
        psycheskinnerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I think wanting to discuss something but rejecting the use of logic = troll.

        1. janesix profile image59
          janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Think what you want.

          The use of logic as opposed to intuition is what I'm getting at.

          I choose to let God guide me.

          1. profile image0
            Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            You're starting to scare me there, janesix. Is there a point to the madness today? smile

            1. janesix profile image59
              janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Why? Because I have different opinions from most people?

              It doesn't bother me to make people uncomfortable with my beliefs.

              I know things that most people don't.

              1. psycheskinner profile image83
                psycheskinnerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                I don't think that is the source of the discomfort. Do you really think anyone gets up, reads this forum and changes their religion?

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                Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Tell us something most people don't know. Something really interesting.

                1. janesix profile image59
                  janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  The universe runs on sexual energy. That's at least interesting to me.

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                    Beth37posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Now tell me something *I don't know. wink

                  2. profile image0
                    Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Tell me you are joking. smile If not, whose sexual energy? Ours?

          2. getitrite profile image76
            getitriteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Here we go again.  A god, that you can't prove exists, is guiding you?  Could you please explain to us godless losers just how that works?  Fair?  Thanks.

            1. janesix profile image59
              janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              No, I have no idea how it works.

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              Beth37posted 5 years agoin reply to this

              You're obviously not a loser... we are basically the same, are we not? Being human.
              Again, I wrote a hub called Ive heard the voice of God if you want personal answers to how God leads some of His followers. Beyond personal answers, the Bible of course is full of answers to that specific question.

  6. profile image0
    Beth37posted 5 years ago

    It's interesting that not having something tangible makes some think logic was not used to come to the conclusion that there is a Superior Being.
    In trying to answer why I believe that God is... I wrote a hub called "Ive heard the voice of God."

    There are so many things that contribute to why we believe and what we believe and if you do not share the same experience as someone else, you are likely not to have the same belief system they do. This should not allow room for a lack of respect or kindness on either side imo. Either you truly seek to know why someone believes what they do, or you are only taking the opportunity to insult them for whatever that gains you.

    1. janesix profile image59
      janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      My intention wasn't to insult.

      Most Christians, Muslims etc that I've run across believe blindly, for no real reason, mostly out of fear or whatnot.

      Athiest seem to reject God, which seems to me to be what happens right before a true religious breakthough.

      1. psycheskinner profile image83
        psycheskinnerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        "Reject" is not a synonym for "not accept".  Unless you think my goldfish is an atheist.  Or a native of some far off land who never met a missionary is an atheist etc.

      2. profile image0
        Beth37posted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I didn't mean you specifically... I simply meant when ppl have this discussion, both sides tend to stop listening and start flinging the  insults. Ppl should actually listen to one another and then maybe assume they do not have ultimate knowledge. As I said, I do believe in God, fully and completely, but there are things I don't know and I'd be a fool to pretend I had no lack. Humility is hugely important when learning.

 
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