For those who have said man has never made a cell.

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    Rad Manposted 5 years ago

    "The exploding technology trend of 3D printing, which has already been used to manufacture everything from food to jewelry, has made its way into the realm of biomedical research, with one California company recently announcing that it had "bioprinted" 3D liver cells.

    The San Diego-based company Organovo says it has used the technology behind 3D printing to create samples of liver cells that function as they would in a human."

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2 … video.html

    Kewl.

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      Motown2Chitownposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Is that your dirty face in that there profile? smile

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        Rad Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Yes Mo. I thought it was time for a change. My little boy who lived right beside a steel plant where all the houses were painted red for a good reason dirty face. And hair with bangs. If you want a better look check out my (other) picks.

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      bBereanposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      If your point is that man can develop artificial ways to accomplish things a cell would accomplish, I don't think anyone doubted that would happen.  With a child on dialysis I applaud their efforts.  What is even more incredible is what they expect to be able to do applying 3d printing, utilizing living cells as the building material.  What your title implies, however, is that man is on the verge of artificially duplicating the complexity and full functionality of a real cell and that isn't true, now is it?

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        Beth37posted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Im so sorry bBerean, I didn't know your daughter was on dialysis.

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          bBereanposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Thank you.  She is a very complicated kid.  Dialysis is actually the easy part.  We have always done it at home...first peritoneal, now hemo.

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            Beth37posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I cant imagine what you and your wife are going thru. Makes me realize how I need to stop feeling sorry for myself. I pray you'll find the strength to face each day.

            1. bBerean profile image60
              bBereanposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              I appreciate it Beth.  Actually we are extremely blessed to have her so we consider ourselves fortunate for the opportunity to do whatever that takes. She was not supposed to survive birth, or for a day, or month, or year...she just turned 21 and although they do remind us how tenuous it all is, at least they have quit trying to speculate on how long we will get to keep her.  We have clearly shown that is only God's call.

              Now you know why I can't consistently post, and never seem to get any hubs done.  wink

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                Beth37posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                God is good.

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                  A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  No, He isn't. smile

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                    Beth37posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Once again, you can't make up your mind if He is real or not.

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                  riddle666posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  For giving a child who needs dialysis??!!!

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                Rad Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                I'm very sorry and at the same time happy for her that she was given to such caring people.

                1. bBerean profile image60
                  bBereanposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I genuinely appreciate the kind words.  It turns out, based on the skill sets and qualifications her mom and I each bring to the table, that not only are we the perfect team for her, (being able to navigate the medical, insurance and legal minefields as well as facilitate the technical aspects of her care), but it appears we have both been in training for it most of our lives.  A happy coincidence?  Perhaps.  All we care is we have a great family.  Pretty strange from the outside looking in, but we are happy and thankful for what we have.

  2. A Troubled Man profile image58
    A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago

    Kits for 3d printers are cheap and easy to build.

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      Disappearingheadposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Cool ATM you could print your self a new liver as Rad Man suggests, or a new heart for Jesus to fill. smile

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        Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        lol

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    janesixposted 5 years ago

    I don't see how creating soulless abominations could be any good for anyone.

    Except maybe for satan and his followers.

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      wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps to provide you with a new liver or heart when yours has quit functioning? 

      Or skin to graft over a bad burn.  Or a new eye for one ruined by macular degeneration.  A new thigh bone to replace one shattered by accident.

      I can think of lots of good coming from such "soulless abominations".

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        janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I would prefer a natural death to that.

        Why do you think clones don't live very long? No souls.

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          wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Would you prefer a real thigh bone or a steel one?  Both are "soulless", after all, and both are man made - one just fits into the biology of your body much better.

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          Rad Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Clones, has someone been cloning humans?

          Do other animals has souls?

          Is there evidence of a soul?

          1. janesix profile image60
            janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I wouldn't be surprised if humans have been cloned. If they can do it, they will.

            Of course animals have souls. So do plants. Any living thing does.

            To your last question, I think we've been through that nonsense before.

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              JMcFarlandposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Does the soul in your philosophy inhabit each and every living cell, so you really have millions of them, or is your soul in one specific place?

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                Zelkiiroposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Additionally: What if someone had a full-body transplant, retaining only their original brain? Does that mean the soul resides in the brain? What, then, of those who receive brain transplants? Do they have a new soul now?

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                  janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  They do brain transplants now?

                  1. Zelkiiro profile image95
                    Zelkiiroposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    We're most certainly not far from it, if it hasn't happened already.

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                janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                I have no idea.

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            janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I had clones like Dolly the sheep in mind, not humans.

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      Rad Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      How can keeping someone alive be a bad thing?

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        janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I didn't say that. I said "creating" cells (body parts, clones) is a bad thing. We are not creators. God is. We can not give these "things" the life force.

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          Rad Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Apparently we can. Are you against pace makers and artificial hips as well?

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            janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Those are mechanical devices. Not sad attempts at creating life. Frankenstien crap. satanic.

            1. Zelkiiro profile image95
              Zelkiiroposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Frankenstein was successful, and Lucifer is incapable of Creation, in their respective fictions.

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              Rad Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Ridiculous, we are simply talking about replacement parts here. Artificial hip, artificial liver, same thing. Nothing satanic about saving lives.

              1. janesix profile image60
                janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                What if you could replace all of your parts as needed? Would you become immortal? Would you do that, Rad Man?

                1. Zelkiiro profile image95
                  Zelkiiroposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  That's probably not how you achieve immortality, but you'd better believe there'd be a long line when a way is found.

                  1. janesix profile image60
                    janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    I'm sure there would be. I wouldn't be in line for that. My allotted time by God is 120 years.

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                  Rad Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Sure, I'd replace parts to survive. People do it all the time. My cousins 7 year old is currently getting new bone marrow. Should he not take it?

                  1. janesix profile image60
                    janesixposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    We were talking about FAKE, man made frankenflesh. Not real transplants. But of course you know that.

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    Jeramiposted 5 years ago

    I would think that a human clone does have a soul .. but .. "IF" these human clones do not have a soul or are some how non human, as if they were man made machines, then what would be the difference in using them for medical research, as we do other animals in finding cures for Alheimers and cancer and countless human ailments?     Just because we alter the natural process in fertalization and incimation in order to guarantee a specific genitic structure instead of leaving that up to chance, does not mean that the product is any less of a human than any other that was concieved through sexual intercourse.
      The moral issue isn't the clone itself but what we do with them.
      Is it right to create life just so we can kill it to use it for body parts?
    Would it be OK to use them for parts ONLY if they died of natural causes?
    Now we would have to better define Natural causes,  and enforcing that would be next to imposible.
    I think this issue may be a Pandoras box!

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    Beth37posted 5 years ago

    "For those who have said man has never made a cell."

    The thought never actually crossed my mind.

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      Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Really? We discuss that over coffee frequently. Every morning, my husband asks "Honey, has Man made a cell yet?" I usually say "No." But, then I saw rad man's thread and had to admit my mistake.  Now, over coffee, we don't talk. My husband doesn't consider me the fountain of wisdom he once did.

      Thanks for nothing rad man.

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        Beth37posted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I can't believe you said "no."
        Im kind of embarrassed for you.

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          Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I'll be honest, but don't share this. Up until recently, I didn't know lots of things. For example, did you know the definitions of 'we' and 'you' is open for debate? And the Jews will soon be enslaved?

          Hub Pages is now my news feed. Without it, I'd be a 'shroom.

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            Beth37posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            you seem smart compared to me.

 
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