what IS and AM......

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  1. gmwilliams profile image86
    gmwilliamsposted 7 years ago

    What is YOUR concept of God or the Universal Force?  Do you believe that God is one's highest self or consciousness?  Do you believe that God or the Universal Force is involved or uninvolved in one's life and consciousness?  If you are an atheist or an agnostic, do you believe that there is a force but is not called God but is nature?  Whatever your beliefs and concepts are, let's discuss!

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I certainly believe in the "Universal Force" of gravity.  It permeates all of our universe, after all.  If you refer to the forces exerted by dark energy or dark matter, probably.

      If you mean some kind of undefined metaphysical, imaginary or extra-universal force field I'll have to wait for evidence of some kind or least a definition of what you mean by "universal Force".

    2. BuddiNsense profile image62
      BuddiNsenseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      God is universal consciousness. Our consciousness is a part of universal consciousness just like a water molecule is part of the ocean.

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        Rad Manposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Do you have any evidence to back up your concept of universal consciousness?

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
          Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, his awareness.
          and your awareness
          and president Obama's
          and mine....
          and my dog's...
          and my neighbor's
          and her cat's
          and the giraffe's in the zoo,
          and on the plains of Kenya
          and the grey whale's down in Baja...And the chimp's and the raccoon's
          and the fox's...
          (But foxes don't talk.)

          1. gmwilliams profile image86
            gmwilliamsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Now, that's an INTELLIGENT answer if there is one!

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
              Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              - you did put
              leaving out the universal
                          *  I  *
                  Happy Sunday!

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            Rad Manposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Who is "his" and do you evidence of "his" consciousness? Does he respond to prayer?

            These people have consciousness, but do you have any evidence that the consciousness is universally connected?
            Only the grey whale and the chimp may have consciousness (self aware) and you need to show evidence that these things are connected in some way. I have absolutely no conscious connection with Obama or you.

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image80
              Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              (I was referring to BuddiNsense's awareness.)  It stands to reason that universal consciousness is the sense of consciousness in general; this sense of consciousness and awareness manifests individually in every creature, probably even amoebas!.. When it manifests in individuals it is not (consciously) connected.  Do Only Humans have the "I Am" sense?
              I wonder.

        2. hfortinberry profile image60
          hfortinberryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          The entire idea of "God" being equated to a universal "consciousness" originated in Pre-Socratic times with Anaxagoras"s (I believe) belief in the "Nous" or world/universal mind.  All i can say at this point in time is that Plato was perhaps the most on target with his perception of "Ideal Forms," which relates to this concept of universal consciousness.  However, Plato's conception would appear to express how God's Kingdom in heaven in actuality does become the full manifestation of God's will on earth as declared in Matthew 6:10.  it's too much to go into in this short space, however if you're interested in a few months you may look for the book, "Logics of the Kingdom."

          1. gmwilliams profile image86
            gmwilliamsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Excellent premise presented, shall check this book out, thank you again for the information and synopsis of this subject.

        3. BuddiNsense profile image62
          BuddiNsenseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Do you understand that concept?

  2. A Troubled Man profile image60
    A Troubled Manposted 7 years ago

    The universe is simply the result of the effects governed by the properties and laws of the phenomenons we observe in nature. This speaks volumes of the sheer magnitude for the tiny miniscule changes affected in nature from those very phenomenons over many generations covering vast periods of time. It is this power in nature we are so awestruck and overwhelmed when we understand what we see today and how it all evolved over time.

    We don't need to worship and praise a genie in a bottle. For the amount of omnipotence they are believed to posses and having decreed credit for the creation of the universe, none have yet come out of their bottles, but instead continue to remain as insignificant within the universe as the itty-bitty living spaces they reside.

    What we actually observe in reality is far more interesting and overpowering than bronze age idols could ever have us imagine, one just merely open their eyes and have a look.



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