Do you think you will get a place in heaven?
Why do you think so?
Of course I do, though it isn't the heaven that Christians consider. I cannot fathom a God that is as human as humans, and would send good people to hell because they didn't believe in him. To me that is a bit ego driven for my books, and really does have the aura of human..
I am not driven by fears of hell. I am driven by love. Love thy neighbor is for everyone. I would not hate a person because of their race, creed or religion, since this is not love. The Universal consciousness I believe in is not a hater, damner or any of those lovely tales. I know many people are driven to believe this, and that is what religion planned.
If I am wrong, and I am not, heaven would not be a place I would wish to go too, for it is too human for me. Just the thought that a wonderful person who is Jewish, Buddist, Muslim, Pagan, Wiccan, or atheist would be banned from heaven is not a place I would go. Seriously, if this was allowed here on earth I would fight for these peoples' rights. Oh wait a minute it is allowed here, and I do fight for their rights. Yes, that heaven is too much like earth and human mentality. I could not justify going there, while someone who is not of that belief must burn. It just goes against all my values.
"Good" by whose standards? God is holy and perfect; He will not allow anything less than holy perfection to enter His eternal kingdom. No human being can even approach that status on his own; Christ's righteousness must be imputed to his account.
glynch: you have been completely and utterly indoctrinated. Your religious teachers did their jobs well.
Glynch, I would not expect anything less from a Christian. It is not my belief, and I am perfectly fine to not follow a god of this source.
AMEN glynch.... We cannot think of this as humans. We must study the Bible and this is what God tells us. A human being cannot fathom this from their own minds or try to make the rules just by what they "think."
As a Christian, I did wonder about the Jewish myself and my theories is maybe their hell was the suffering they already went through on earth plus maybe they are bound by OT law NT law may just be for Christians non-Jewish believers (my theory)
great comments, Renee. I like your thinking
I am going to heaven not because of me, but because of what Jesus did for me. It is His righteousness that God sees when He looks at me. Jesus fulfilled God's punishment for sin on the cross. All I have to do is accept and believe and allow Jesus, who is God, to rule and reign in my life.
So yes, I KNOW I am going to heaven. You can know that fact too. I trust Him because everything He prophesied about came true so I can trust Him with my future too.
Yes, I know I am going to heaven, as I have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my savior who died on that cross for my sins, rose from the dead, and sits at the right hand of the Father. These are just my beliefs, as I know others have their own beliefs. I have faith and nothing has to be proven to me. I will see Him one day in paradise.
Does that mean my Jewish wife is going to hell? How egocentric are the religious. Their religion is the only true religion and all others will perish who do not have the same delusions. I wish you a good & happy life, but you will not see heav
I am just answering the question as to my beliefs and make no judgments as to others' beliefs. This is not a forum for debate, just a question. The Jewish people are His chosen people, and He came to save the whole world. God bless.
To be honest Faith Reaper does not judge others, please do not judge her.
God bless you Faith Reaper
With all respect mutually held between u 2. I am not judging. Faith as do many others claim acceptance of Jesus as her savior as her ticket into heaven. So you are mistaken, I am not judging. I am merely expanding on her statement and beliefs.
I am returning to source. Pure, positive energy. I am here to have fun, expand and learn and as all of us our souls return.
Yes. I have been saved by the blood of Jesus Christ whom I accepted as my savior. All who do this will have a place in heaven.
Based on John 3:16. Yes. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son so that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. Thank you to God. All glory belongs to him.
I'm not Christian and I choose not to get into a religious debate most of the time. I believe "heaven" is what you make of it. I know I will return to my first goddess and the creature, a cat, that means the most to me in this life despite her dead. Artemis made a promise to me when I was younger that I would see her again. I'm holding her to it.
I know for sure that I will get a place in 'heaven' (I call it spirit home) as my spirit guides have told me this. The part I am not sure of though is if I'll get the straight route there. I like so many have made errors in judgement in my lifetime. I wonder if I have to 'do time' for that. I know I don't have to go to hell or anything like that.
But I had a dear friend that died. In the decade before his death he had become a gentleman and a scholar; this after a lifetime of alcohol addiction. Still he had to go to the 'learning place'. I once asked a psychic (a very skilled one at that) how this friend was doing over there, this was years after his death. He was still in the 'learning place', earning his 'wings' to go to heaven. I use the term wings lightly, I am well aware that humans never become angels under any circumstances.
I found the psychic's comment interesting.
Later on I learnt how to communicate with this friend through Tarot cards. He was enjoying life in the learning place as he was becoming the man he had always wanted to be, but just couldn't make it happen in life. He did things to help others from the other side.
Until that time of communicating with him I didn't realize that spirits were offered such assignments - to help others yet living I mean. That said, his assignments involved the family members he left behind and helping them through their travails.
He knew that he would get to heaven.
In life he had told me that the Devil claimed his soul. I am glad he found his peace.
In life, about a decade before he passed he had quit drinking. He began the AA program. He made a vow to give it all up. He broke that vow. The very first night after he made the vow he went out and really tied one on.
He was woken up in the middle of the night by a dastardly looking figure with trident, horns and all. He said - you know what you have done. You are mine now! And then he left.
But in the end, my friend let the light prevail.
Anyway, that's the story you provoked me to tell with your question.
I am seeing that some stand against the beliefs of others, albeit very few. I find this a source of curiosity. I believe that the afterlife is exactly the way it would be given each individual's beliefs regarding it. The same theory goes in life.
I'm glad to hear your friend found eternal peace.
I doubt it very much LensMan, but if I do get there, I'll let you know.
I believe, in one way, we are already there, and just don't know it, and, in another way, we'll all get there in the end.
But I think we are better off not caring about it. After all, isn't the question, Will *I* get a place in heaven? a bit selfish. If we love others as ourselves and love our enemies (the guidelines Jesus taught for entry into Heaven), then isn't the question, "How can I help you be in heaven?" But even then, not in an arrogant, judgmental, or teaching way.
How can I help? Do I visit the poor, the widows, the orphans? Do I help the wounded stranger, at an inconvenience to myself, like the Good Samaritan?
If I deserve a place in Heaven, it's because I don't ask about it or think about it. I work to bring Heaven to Earth through God's generosity.
1. There is no "Heaven," so it is impossible no matter how angelic a person I may be. No matter how subservient to a master I may be. No matter how judgmental of others I may be. No matter how afraid of a creator who can hurt me by just a thought I may be. I cannot go somewhere that does not exist.
2. For argument sake, let's say there is a "Heaven." I suppose we mean a "Christian Heaven." Because there are thousands of "Heavens" depending on what religious beliefs one has, so we must pick one. If there is a "Heaven," I will not be given a ticket to go there. Why? I am grateful beyond measure for my creation, but I will not lick boots as a sign of thankfulness. I do not believe I should be treated like a slave or a pet. I can think and therefore I feel I should be treated better than as a slave or a pet. Even if granted a seat in "Heaven," I would give it up for someone not allowed a place in "Heaven." Why? I do not believe anyone should be sent to "Hell," which I assume is the alternative to not obtaining a seat in "Heaven" and in "Hell" a person would be subjected to eternal torture as the story goes. Any god/creator who would create flawed creatures (the god's mistake, not the creature's mistake) and then allow them to be tortured mercilessly for not measuring up to his standards is a cruel - spoiled child with an ego problem who abuses his power. I would not want to live with such an evil being. I would rather cease to exist if possible and if life is no longer a viable option. Non-existence is preferable to an eternity of servitude or and eternity of torture.
Who says that you have to lick boots or be treated like a slave or pet? I do like your selfless action of giving up your place there for somebody else. I prayed to God to do the same for me so my husband gets a chance-he is not a Christian.
I really don't know. I hope so. To live in the cradle of creation. To know firsthand and to be with God is a dream come true. All I can hope is that I am a good enough person that God feels me worthy to join him in his kingdom, to share eternal existence with him in Heaven.
When I best live my life today, I'm in heaven already. And that's all the heaven I really expect.
Whenever I do such a work without any interest, which is helpful to others, I think that I will get a place in heaven but when a person has grief due to my act, I think that I am not able to get it. This is life and these acts are to be continued because each and every thing is not in my own capacity.
I don't think that matters. Heaven is just a projection of order in civilization to the after life, with a king bestowing fortune if you lived by his command on Earth.
More and more, I'm realizing we have to make our own Heaven right here on Earth. Those who have are in the best position to share it with others. I am very impressed with Pastor Howard Storm's near death experience; here it is.
As far as the afterlife is concerned, I used to have the rigid belief of Heaven and Hell, but now I'm not sure. What if I live a pure life, only to have God pull a fast one on me when it's too late for me to do anything about it? That doesn't sound like something a loving parent would do, right? In fact, that's how cruel earthly dictators act. So rather than allow myself to be frightened any further, I'll just go with Pastor Howard Storm's experience.
Doesn't it tell us in the bible that God is going to create a new Heaven and a new earth, which will be Paradise? Most of us will be in Paradise. The ones in Heaven will be 144,000 from the Tribes of Israel. Except for the Tribe of Dan.
Those will be the ones (who, during the 1,000 years when Satan and the False Prophet are cast into the lake of fire) who are going to be able to teach people about Jesus. People who had not been able to know enough about Jesus to accept Him. During the 1,000 years so many people will be given the opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior. Those who do accept him will be given a place in Paradise.
I don't mean to upset your beliefs or your dreams, but the bible is a book of fables. Ask any honest man of the cloth and he will tell you so. It is a collection of stories handed down. It is not written by the hand of god.
No, you do not upset me. The one thing I will not do is try to force my religious belief upon someone else. That is very wrong. No one should do that.
Hell no! I don't want to go to heaven, especially if my former husband and his second wife, the "soul-mate of his life" who used to be my friend, and he, the person who kicked us to the curb, are there. And by all unspoken accounts from my Catholic father-in-law, God rest his soul, they are just lovely stellar human beings now. Why? because after the divorce the friend who took my husband from our family and the man who left us took the father-in-law I loved to Mass every morning when he visited them. All of it, religion, the origins of the universe, the speculation of what will happen afterwards makes absolutely no sense to me.
I know, I know, it will be all beatific and none of our negative emotions will be felt in the presence of God, but without my mind as it exists now, I don't have feelings that exist now. And the mind that exists now cannot imagine what that new mind would be, nor do I want to waste my time pondering that.
I really don't want any part of an after-life. This one has been a struggle, but I LOVE it, and appreciate it, and it's quite good enough for me.
Billie, I couldn't help but lol at your opening statements. But those aside, I hope things are better for you now. I wish you the very best life you can have & want. You sound like a grounded person - life is tough, but u love it. All the best
RealityTalk, you're very sweet. I do joke around a lot about the whole ridiculousness of everything that happened at life in general. But I DO love it all - the agony and the ecstasy. My 2nd hubby n I just had lunch by the Ocean so I'm happy!
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