LDS Cut your own throats for speaking out

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    passingthewordposted 4 years ago

    Blood oaths

    Original oaths[edit]On May 4, 1842, Joseph Smith, Jr. instituted the Endowment ritual in Nauvoo, Illinois. At three different stages of the Endowment, participants were asked to take an oath of secrecy regarding the gestures of the ceremony.[citation needed] The participants promised that if they were ever to reveal the gestures of the ceremony, would be subject to the following:

    Stage 1 : "my throat ... be cut from ear to ear, and my tongue torn out by its roots;"
    Stage 2 : "our breasts ... be torn open, our hearts and vitals torn out and given to the birds of the air and the beasts of the field;"
    Stage 3 : "our body ... be cut asunder and all your bowels gush out."
    Each of the penalties was accompanied by gestures known as the "execution of the penalty" which simulated the actions described in the oath.[citation needed]

    Stage 1: The participant placed his or her right hand palm-down with the thumb extended and the tip of the thumb just under the left ear. The execution of the gesture was made by drawing the tip of the thumb swiftly across the throat until the thumb was just under the right ear, then dropping the hand and arm quickly to the side of the participant's body.
    Stage 2: The participant placed his or her hand in a cup form over the left breast. The execution of the gesture was made by pulling the hand-cup swiftly across the breast, then quickly dropping the hand and arm to the side of the participant's body.
    Stage 3: The participant placed his or her right hand palm-down with the thumb extended and the tip of the thumb on the left of the torso, just above the left hip. The execution of the gesture was made by drawing the thumb swiftly across the stomach until the thumb was just above the right hip, and the hand and arm were quickly dropped to the side of the participant's body.
    The oaths and their accompanying gestures resembled certain oaths performed in a particular Freemasonry tradition in Western New York at the time, in which participants promised:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKG5kMnZZcM

    1. wilderness profile image98
      wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Umm.  You must really hate the Mormons; is there some great perceived wrong you think they have done you?  Stolen your first born or something?

      1. psycheskinner profile image82
        psycheskinnerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        I never knew hatred could be so boring.  To our Mormon members: lack of response is lack of interest, not agreement.

        1. wilderness profile image98
          wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Well put.  This kind of nonsense isn't very interesting, is it?  I didn't manage to get through the entire OP before losing all interest, in fact.

        2. Shanna11 profile image91
          Shanna11posted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks. smile I do appreciate that. I try to avoid these threads and not let it get to me. Nothing I can do or say to change this person's mind and I'm sorry they feel this way.

          1. profile image54
            passingthewordposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            When was the last time that you baptized for the dead. Its been about five years for me.

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        passingthewordposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Do you think a waffle make is very interesting? Not alot of interest there. Your a little to old to be take shots. If you don't like it move on.

        1. wilderness profile image98
          wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Waffle makers?  Interesting? 

          Well I wrote on that very subject and have sold a few through Amazon.  So yes, I suppose they are interesting to some people.

          What's that got to do with hating Mormons?  Do they all cook waffles each morning and you hate waffles?  Are you out of syrup and think they've cornered the market?

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            passingthewordposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            well i was a mormon and i know they tried to brain wash me.... long story. hate them? no.. but I do hate the LDS doctrine. And this thread my be interesting to some.
            Waffles... is that what is keeping you busy in your retirement? I keep my aunt jemima waffles well stocked.

 
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