Grabbed While Sleeping

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   ronb2ndposted 10 years ago

   Ok being the logical person I am. Always looking at the logical reason something happens I am so confused with what I am hearing from my wife I have signed up with this forum to ask your opinion about a so called paranormal situation that my wife says  occurred this evening. She was lying in bed and she said something grabbed her while she was laying in bed. I was in the living room to hear her say ouch in the bedroom I ran in there to her saying while still laying there oh it's nothing nothing which indicated she had dozed off and it was a bad dream. Then she came out to say that something grabbed her while in bed and she was scared. I immediately looked at her chest and there was a small bruise. I was very understanding and I went into the bedroom and got chills from head to toe. But I believe it was because of the thought in my head of what just happened. Anyway about twenty minutes goes by and I ask to see her chest again and there is these bleeding scratches on her chest that looks like someone scratched her chest badly. She never complained about any pain from them occurring. I think she was doing it to get attention and maybe doing it so when we did go to bed she could say it happened again then show me the scratches so I would believe it. Please give me your opinion on this situation. Thank you

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      janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I think she's faking it. Attention seeking.

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      kessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I think her reaction is more consistent with having a real but difficult to explain situation.
      
      There is a common experience called sleep paralysis, it is consistent with this.
      
      Take her seriously, while at the same time do not encourage hyper reaction.
      For this situation has more of a bark than a bite.

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   ronb2ndposted 10 years ago

   I believe so also. Thanks for the opinion. But if this is the case what can I do to stop this type of behavior and why do people go to these lengths to do these things? Is it me? Should I be more attentive to her? She does drink a lot and has been very very mean to me lately. Like super mean. Is this her way of feeling bad about being such a mean person? Help me here please this cannot continue!

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      janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Well, she probably needs to talk to someone about it (a professional.) This is really odd behavior. It probably is just attention seeking, but she might have mental issues as well.
      
      It's not YOU. She's just going through a rough time, and needs help. At least try to talk her into couples counciling,or even just her regular medical doctor, if you don't want to say "honey, you need to see a psychiatrist".

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   Beth37posted 10 years ago

   I just can't imagine taking this post seriously. I mean why would anyone experience something like this and go directly to an online writer's forum and open an account in order to ask a bunch of strangers, with no expertise in the area of anything relating to his story, for advise?
   
   The only thing that rings true is that in the midst of fear, confusion and reported pain he, "looked immediately at her chest."

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      janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      That is kind of weird when you think about it that way.

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         Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I think Psycheskinner was the one who said someone will post an extremist type story on a forum, and then a few months later a cohort or the same poster with a duplicate acct, will make another post and then begin spamming. I believe we are not really supposed to respond, but I made the assumption that once a response has been made, it doesn't matter if continuing posts are made. I'm really not sure. She could probably tell you. The part that's sad is that when someone really does reach out, no one feels safe to trust. It's the boy who cries wolf type situation.

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            janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Now that I reread it, it does seem kind of "fake" to me. But I am easily manipulated, because I can't "read" people very well. If true, this is totally annoying.

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               Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Easily manipulated is also another term for trusting. When ppl burn you, the shame's on them. Don't feel bad because you're not cynical. lol

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   psycheskinnerposted 10 years ago

   No need to assume she was lying.  A pre-existing injury combined with a hypnogogic hallucination (which is quite common) could cause the same effect.

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      janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      That could be true too. I've had hypnogogic hallucinations myself before, along with sleep paralysis. I should have recognized that, but I was focusing on the actual injury.

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         psycheskinnerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I was thinking that the injury was there unnoticed ( I get "mystery" bruises all the time) and her unconscious mind connected it to the hallucination.  I had that happen once when I had sore leg muscles and I had a very lucid dream that something was sitting on my legs.

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            Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            When it occurred, was an internet forum the first place you landed? IDK, seems odd to me.

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               psycheskinnerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               I think the whole question is probably spam.  But I still didn't want to be too hard on spam man's spam wife. She has enough problems.

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                  Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  lol. I like that. "Assume the best", or "the best you can", in this case.

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   ronb2ndposted 10 years ago

   Ok beth37 your immediate conclusion to this being fake is very upsetting to me. In an attempt to get her to stop I had to post here to show her I was going to find out the truth and call her bluff. She needs help yes. Where else do you turn when you have no one else to talk to. Spam my ass. This is true 100% sad but very true. It's funny how you jump to conclusions a little counseling would not hurt

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      Dave36posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      As far as feels of being held down if she was laid on her back, it could very well be sleep paralysis....Iv'e had it many times over the years, & even at 41 years old would still terrify me today (if i had one).....As far as drinking excessively & being mean to you, two very big signs that things aren't going right, but you are asking the right questions.....However your asking the wrong people buddy, tell your wife you love her & ask her/talk to her.....Think back to when it was good & see what's changed since, something in the relationship has changed maybe even you.....Posting on here is probably the worse thing you could have done, you should be discussing it with her only.....Anyway if i we're you i'd apologize to her for posting, & think back to when you met her.....Think what you used to do for her when you was trying to get her, & see how many of those things you do for her now.....I could be totally wrong as i don't know you or your Mrs, but your in the best place to work it out.

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      psycheskinnerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      You post looks fake because it resembles many other confirmed fake postings from the past.  So such a suspicion is quite reasonable.  Specifically:
      Person with no hubs
      Person with few posts
      Sudden sharing of very personal problem on first post
      The kind of problem 'psychic' or 'alternative' healers might help with.
      
      If you problem is real you need to discuss it with your wife and an expert medical and/or spiritual counselor (so your recommendation along these lines is ironic). Attempting to manipulate or shame your wife by posting her personal problems in public is passive aggressive and destructive to your relationship.

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