Right. 'Soon" generation will usher in, the King of kings and the Lord of lords and it will be supernatural act of the Creator.
By reading in the Scriptures, mostly the New Testament.
Yes, that's it, since this is a place where I honor the policies avoiding direct quotation chapter and verse. Many though familiar with the signs of times read the word clearly discerning as the wars a raging - Nations fighting against nation, kingdoms against kingdoms, famines, and pestilence, and earthquakes, in divers places; the believers in Jesus Christ are delivered to sufferings, being killed, hated... many are subverted, hated; 'christians' betraying 'christians',on rise deception by the false prophets as never before and due to the abundance of evil the love of many grows cold... Meanwhile the gospel of the kingdom is being preached in the parts of the world where never before has been preached,and a great number of the followers is rapidly growing to the limit set for...
However, we don't know what "soon" means. It could mean decades or centuries. I myself think I will die of old age before WWIII takes place.
Exactly, "soon" is unknown to us as well as the outcome of the WW3.
I find children to be more aware than ever. I believe they will change the world. They will be able to detect and resist the baloney we adults are presently putting out or putting up with. They will know it when they see it and hear it.
I have noticed that children today are watching very uplifting cartoons/movies and reading cute, beautiful positive books which are suddenly flooding the market. Today's parents love their children and are more sensitive to their needs more than any other generation I have witnessed. Also fathers are pitching in to a huge extent.
( some 50% and greater, if not 100%.)
So, I have hope for the future, if only people would get on board as far as Montessori. I think we need to implement her teachings and methods in public schools. Sigh, I think she was three hundred years ahead of her time. I may have to reincarnate around 4015 to see that ideal realized.
Some are being raised with God and religion, some are not.
I wonder how that will pan out.
Montessori noticed that children have a natural propensity to love God.
"Montessori noticed that children have a natural propensity to love God."
I'm sure they do...after being indoctrinated into believing a myth is true. After being brainwashed into believing that everything good that happens to them is because God did it. After convincing them that they can live forever because of God. After being told 1,000 times that God loves them and will take care of them.
Who wouldn't? Outside, that is, of those people that have learned critical thinking skills, not to believe everything they're told and question everything they ARE told.
No. There is something magical about going into a church and observing the quiet rituals and practices, hearing devotional messages about Jesus and his message of love, forgiveness and salvation in a harsh world.
When religion is not offered with inspiration and good example and is instead promoted as negative indoctrinations leading to guilt and blind obedience, children eventually rebel against it of their own accord. You will see them on the internet responding negatively to God/religion as adults.
However, for children to understand that God is a mystical and miraculous loving force to be amazed by, trust in, and believe in, it is a good thing! Why not? It is reality after all, whether you want to admit it or not, wilderness! (Sorry about the church YOU went to as a child!)
There is indeed, though I'm not sure the correct term is "magical". "Indoctrination" (to be polite) is probably more accurate, and it isn't hard to convince even adults that what they want so badly is actually available whether it is or not. Children are even easier.
No, it's not reality - only imagination at work. Were it to be real and true I kind of think that thousands of years of effort would have produced at least a tiny bit of evidence, but so far it is 100% opinion.
The evidence is your own consciousness. Where did it come from?
Hint: It is not because of/ the result of your body.
According to Merriam-Webster Dictionary, Conscience is the part of the mind that makes you aware of your actions as being either morally right or wrong.
You ask the question "Where did it come from?". To answer, it comes from the way you were raised, and the influences of society around you. It is something that is learned over time. Kids at a young age often times do mischievous things because they do not know any better. Nobody has taught them not to do it. So your conscience is something that you learn over time based on the influences around you. You are not born with a conscience, which means "God" did not put it there.
Not argumentative, yet seeking being informative having been stimulated with curiosity. Seems Christof Koch of Scientific American offers informative information regarding consciousness. An article for that organization written by him states consciousness "begins to be in place between the 24th and 28th week of gestation".
I too have always viewed consciousness to be more so from social influence combined with the maturing of cognitive thought process through neurological / physiological reasoning. I would think his article is worth considering for its science while the jury is more centered individually. It will probably be out for when social influence begins. Of course I am willing to accept my understanding of it may be incorrect.
Here is the link if one is curious of that article:
When Does Consciousness Arise in Human Babies
Oh no! After all the "definitions" and pablum, I find that I have to agree with this almost 100%. I have no problem with children's religious "indoctrination" to the point that they are capable of deciding for themselves. I see nothing wrong with good examples, and parables of good examples as foundation stones for a child's development.
GA
I am glad you are on her side of the bleachers!
Thanks for your input, GA Anderson!
"...Outside, that is, of those people that have learned critical thinking skills, ..."
Do you really put so much stock in "so-called" critical thinking skills? Isn't it possible that after applying their so-called critical thinking skills they could still believe in God?
It may seem like a no-brianer to you, but there are a lot of very intelligent believers out there. I think you do yourself a disservice to dismiss them so readily because [i]you]/i] don't have the faith they do.
How is it you are so comfortable dismissing religious believers when your lack of evidence that they are wrong is as sketchy as their proof that they are right?
GA
Conscience is an adjunct to man created by religions and spirituality without which we wouldn't be quite human. It is a necessary and important part of us. Recent atheist movements and leaders try to pretend it is now redundant. Hence we see such things as Dawkins and Singer discussing the morality of eating "human road kill" as long as they're not direct relatives! A loss of conscience has been responsible for rapid increases in such things as domestic violence and infanticide .
Conscience is not created by religion. If you are religious, then it can have an affect on your conscience, but religion is not the cause of your conscience. Conscience is your judgement on what is right and wrong. This means society around you has an affect on your conscience because your decisions are made based on what is socially acceptable. Religion is not the only thing people base right and wrong on. Religion can influence the decisions of those who are religious. If religion caused conscience then why do people who are not religious have a conscience? The answer is because it is based on how you are raised and the society around you.
As stated there is abundant evidence to show that the conscience of many is now being eroded by atheism. All atheist leaders agree that their view of conscience is something created by religion
" All atheist leaders agree that their view of conscience is something created by religion.
As stated there is abundant evidence to show that the conscience of many is now being eroded by atheism."
Yes, one must instill values and ethics, either common sense or spiritually based, in childhood when the psyche is being built in order for conscience to exist. At the same time, children are naturally very kind, helpful and sensitive to one another and adults. Adults respond to that love whether they are atheists or not. The love adults have for their children helps to keep what is innately within their offspring in tact.
PS Many atheists claim they believe in The Golden Rule and in fact, often demonstrate this precept more than believers.
Hello friendlywebuy, glad to see you in the forums. good point.
I am with Locke on this one - almost. I too agree that conscience is a product of up-bringing. (how's that for old-school terminology).
GA
I have to agree with wilderness that Montessori method is more like an indoctrination. It seems to lean heavily toward a universal one world order.
I disagree.
Lets say a parent is ordered to micro-chip his child by the public school the child is attending. Now, the child would instinctively know this is wrong and would tell the parent so. Would the parent follow his child or the government/state? What would it do to the child's conscience, if the parent ignores his child and listens to the state?
Montessori would say," Follow the child! Keep his conscience in tact!
One must actually read one of Montessori's books to understand her.
I have been reading, "The Montessori Method" lately.
On the back of the book, this quote by her: Any child who is self-sufficient, who can tie his shoes, dress and undress himself; reflects in his joy and sense of achievement the image of human dignity, which is derived from a sense of independence."
Her whole goal was to help children become strong and capable. Yes, they are weak and small now, but destined to become strong and independent.
Her method has resulted in as much criticism as it has acclaim, but based on this fundamental tenet: "...engage in psychological self-construction by means of interaction with their environments.l..." ie. children are shaped by their environment.
I am on her side of the bleachers.
GA
Yes, GA , you explained it well: With Montessori, psychological self-construction occurs as the child interacts with his environment. Liberty within a prepared environment is the key. Discipline allows freedom. Without the discipline of set boundaries, there is no freedom, no interaction, no focus, no concentration, no learning, no growth, no development and limited self-construction. On the other side of the scale, where there is no freedom and only discipline and expectation of blind obedience, there can only be tied knots, anger and resentment, and limited self-construction.
Freedom PLUS Boundaries is the way of the future. This way is not here yet. Sadly.
According to me, myself, I and Montessori.
Don't be unsure, think about it. In most cases the child's perception is uncorrupted... follow the child. It is the adult's day-to-day capitulations that corrupt our perception.
GA
Montessori believed in conferring very closely with the child's parents. She knew a wholistic approach involving school and home was beneficial to both the child and his parents.
You know, it's actually really nice to see a positive thread about "kids these days" as I usually just see grumbling about how today's kids are so spoiled and disrespectful and blah blah. I think it's a good time to be a parent of young children as there is so much information available to us now, and it's a good time to be a young child because parents have more resources and knowledge (obviously assuming they care to look into it) that will hopefully enrich their lives. My daughter gets to grow up in a time when the LGBT community is making huge strides to gain equal rights and feminism is alive and well. We're paving the way (hopefully) for the next generation to be a little less familiar with discrimination and hate, which will pave the way for even more good things...
As for Montessori, I do really like the philosophy for younger children, God stuff aside.
Thanks for your field report! The "God stuff" is fun for children and beneficial. After all, the God stuff is the stuff of Love.
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