Humans, Apes and Swine.

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    sandra rinckposted 15 years ago

    I had a thought while pouring over my thoughts in a science thread the theory of devolution page 4 being the reason I am on the religion forum.  http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/13135

    So I wanted to discuss something with my Muslim and Christian friends about something I read in the Qu'ran and the things being discussed on the science forum.

    In the Qu'ran I have read a couple times that God changed some humans into Apes and Swines.  We know that Apes and Pigs are two animals with brain functions remarkably close to humans.

    Now from the discussion there we were talking about the hobbit woman (18,000 years old), who is an new species who is or was a modern human living along side the homosapein. 

    The homosapein of course being descendant of the great apes...

    While my thoughts aren't so clear something about it seems astonishing to me in that the Qu'ran was written 1400 years ago and it does talk about God's people having evolved but also about God changing degraded humans into apes and swines.

    And from the Bible it talks about two different types of humans, the spiritual from God and the animal ones.

    However bizarre my thoughts might be at the moment and however controversial they may be when I was going over my thoughts on why humans could not have evolved from one common ancestor



    However, is it possible that there are two types of human-ish species that did not evolve from one common ancestor?  I mean... from what I understand in the Bible there are God's people and there are people of this world. 

    And in the Qu'ran there is a God's people and a animal like human. 

    Sorry if this is too overly controversial and I am hoping that we can have a peaceful conversation here while I am trying to sort out my thoughts. 

    I am trying to make order of them but I am not certain what I am trying to say yet. big_smile

    Thanks.

    1. Fishin' Cricket profile image70
      Fishin' Cricketposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      During all this evolving that has been going on over the past so many thousands of years you would think that we humans had evolved past the point where we need our science to justify our myths and fables.  There you go, thought complete!

      Now on to tackling the tough stuff, like ending world hunger or stabilizing the rain forests or saving the ailing Madagascar evolutionary chain...  But that's just my two cents..  I'll probably go to hell for it..  LOL

  2. Raven King profile image60
    Raven Kingposted 15 years ago

    Are you thinking about the H1N1 virus?

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      sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      no.

  3. Raven King profile image60
    Raven Kingposted 15 years ago

    Good. I am a Catholic and eating bacon is not a taboo.
    I never heard this story about people being turned to pigs and apes. Are you a vegetarian?

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      sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      LOL, no I love bacon and pork chops! big_smile

      1. Raven King profile image60
        Raven Kingposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Oooh, I almost forgot about pork chops. Mmmmm, yummy.  big_smile

    2. Elynjo profile image59
      Elynjoposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Scary thought, I am shaking here :-)

      1. Raven King profile image60
        Raven Kingposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        hehe.

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          fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          There they go with bacon.

          1. Paraglider profile image88
            Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Where, and who?

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    fierycjposted 15 years ago

    You know, Sandra. This isn't as controversial as you think it is. I happened to believe that the US government are biologically developing an army of deformed creatures, somewhere either in the deserts of Utah,Arizona or Nevada. These beast-like creatures are critical to the army formation of the New Age of Aquarius. Now thats controversial. I've gathered facts on this, but I would rather not discuss it now. Maybe I'll write a hub on it later. Its part of a novel I'm writing though. THE REMNANT.

    1. Raven King profile image60
      Raven Kingposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      This reminds me of the tv series Dark Angel.
      A show about transgenic human/ animal hybrids.

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    fierycjposted 15 years ago

    You ladies kill me. Its amazing how you can talk about mutated humans and bacon at the same time. LOL.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image58
      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      They call us the "long pig."

      You never smelled burned human?

      1. Raven King profile image60
        Raven Kingposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        EWE!

        1. Mark Knowles profile image58
          Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Smells awfully like roast pork. wink

          Not lamb.......

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        sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        smelled burnt skin... smells nothing like bacon...mmmm bacon. smile

        1. Mark Knowles profile image58
          Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          You didn't let it burn for long enough big_smile

          hmmmmm Bacon, drool.....

    2. Raven King profile image60
      Raven Kingposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I don't believe it myself but when I was watching Alien Resurection  the movie was disgusting but I had the craving for meat, steak you name it.

  6. David Bowman profile image60
    David Bowmanposted 15 years ago


    And just when I was about to throw my tinfoil hat that I have stashed under my bed. They can read our thoughts you know!

  7. Paraglider profile image88
    Paragliderposted 15 years ago

    Will you guys stop talking about bacon? I'm living in Qatar, a pork-free country, and it's breakfast time...

    1. Mark Knowles profile image58
      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      They don't do bacon sandwiches in Qatar? big_smile

      http://markpknowles.com/wp-content/uploads/baconsandwich.jpg

      1. Paraglider profile image88
        Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Sadist!  They do turkey 'bacon' and beef 'bacon' but neither is remotely bacon-like.

        1. Mark Knowles profile image58
          Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          LOL

          I have tried those. Nothing vaguely bacon like about them.

          You should try those American dog treats. "Bacon strips," or something like that. They look like bacon, to a dog they supposedly taste like bacon - but they are something else. Not sure what but might be worth a try? Perhaps one of our American friends will send you a packet? lol

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            lol  lol  lol  your making my day. smile

      2. Raven King profile image60
        Raven Kingposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Darn this picture sent me over the edge! I am hungry again. Now I have to raid the fridge.  big_smile

  8. Paraglider profile image88
    Paragliderposted 15 years ago

    Nahh, I think I'll just wait till my next trip to Dubai or Bahrain!

  9. Mark Knowles profile image58
    Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

    That is a fine looking bacon sandwich though. Bacon sandwiches are not a big thing in the US.

    Always said there was something wrong with American culture........... big_smile

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      sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, we like to dress our bacon sandwiches up with some tomato and lettuce. yummy!  smile

      1. Mark Knowles profile image58
        Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Like I said....... lol

      2. Paraglider profile image88
        Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Bacon in US isn't the same as in UK.
        I had bacon coated in icing sugar in Oregon. Sacrilege sad

        1. Make  Money profile image67
          Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Canadian peameal bacon sandwich.  mmm

          http://gordsbacon.com/img/bacon%20pic.jpg

          Bacon coated in icing sugar, never heard of that one before.

          Was this thread suppose to be about back bacon? big_smile

        2. Raven King profile image60
          Raven Kingposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Never had that icing on bacon.
          But maple sugar cured bacon is delicious! Sweet, sweet meat.
          Mmmmmm.  big_smile

          1. Everyday Miracles profile image83
            Everyday Miraclesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I don't actually like it like that sad Hubby cooks ham with maple syrup and I feel like he's ruining the meat!

    2. Elynjo profile image59
      Elynjoposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Love BLT sandwich, I don't feel guilty eating the grease and all dripping from the bacon because of the lettuce and tomato on it.  :-)

    3. Everyday Miracles profile image83
      Everyday Miraclesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I know! Isn't that true! I had never heard of them until I moved to England and when I got back I was questioning the logic behind not having bacon sandwiches! Now *I'm* hungry too!

  10. Paraglider profile image88
    Paragliderposted 15 years ago

    You can find a novel use for bacon here
    http://hubpages.com/hub/This-Site-Has-B … Censorship
    If you don't want to read the hub, just scroll through it for the bacon!

  11. Make  Money profile image67
    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    Quite the use for bacon.  She should try it under a tanning booth. lol

 
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