What's The Harm?

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   David Bowmanposted 14 years ago

   I came across this website and thought I should share it with everyone here in the forum. When people ask me "what's the harm" regarding faith beliefs, this is usually one of the things I point out. Faith healing is dangerous.
   http://whatstheharm.net/christianscience.html

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      MangoGirlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting stories, David. Yes, we should be somewhat reasonable people.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Deary me. That is some scary information. Although, I have to say - this is just more proof of evolution in action.
      
      Definitely some nominees for the Darwin awards:
      
      http://www.darwinawards.com/

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   Paragliderposted 14 years ago

   Good find, that site. Critical thinking is not just rare; often it is made fun of by people too attached to their preferred brand of nonsense.

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      MangoGirlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Couldn't agree more.

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   David Bowmanposted 14 years ago

   That's another thing; why is believing something without evidence somehow a character trait to be admired? I get tired of hearing people saying things like "I wish I had as much faith as him" or "He was a man of faith." I wish more people respected and admired people for being critical thinkers and for NOT taking things at face value. To me, someone who thinks critically and is not afraid to question the prevailing notions is someone to be admired.

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   Sufidreamerposted 14 years ago

   
   
   I have a half-written hub on the Darwin awards - I must finish it off sometime. The Ig Nobel awards are a laugh, too:
   
   http://improbable.com/ig/ig-pastwinners.html

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   DennisBarkerposted 14 years ago

   I could walk down any street in london, stop a few people at random and give you a list of people who have been into hospital for treatment for one illness and come out with something else that they caught in hospital.
   
   Modern medicine is not all its cracked up to be, and neither is faith healing. both should be taken with a healthy pinch of salt.
   (as long as you havn't exceeded your recommended daily allowance , of course).

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   fierycjposted 14 years ago

   This reminds me of that movie, The ballad of Ricky Bobby, where Will Ferrell has an accident during a Nascar race and thinks that his on fire, and begins running around all over the place, all the while screaming, "save me, jesus...Save me Tom Cruise, use your witchcraft and heal me." i've always wondered what Tom Cruise would feel about that, being a Scientologist and all. But Will Ferell cracks me up, though.

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   Make Moneyposted 14 years ago

   Are Christian Science and Scientology the same?

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      Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No. Scientology is a business venture founded by L Ron Hubbard in the 20th century. The Church of Christ, Scientist (aka Christian Science) is a lot older.

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         fierycjposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         gee, you learn a new thing every day. So which does Tom Cruise belong to? Any idea?

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            Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Scientologists, I think.

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         Make Moneyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Oh right, I see Christian Science was started by Mary Baker Eddy in 1866.
         
         See one of the commenters on the video that Mark posted about Scientology says this "Funny, L.Ron Hubbard was a friend of Aleister Crowley, and both started a religion. Crowley started Thelema, which evolved into Wicca(with some Theosophy). L. Ron started Scientology."

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   Mark Knowlesposted 14 years ago

   He is a scientologist:
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0
   
   Watch it quick because it is sure to be removed soon lol

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      Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Watching France24, about the Scientology fraud court case in France - looks like the French are fed up with them.

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      MangoGirlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I watched it, Mark. This guy should be in jail for life!

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   Mark Knowlesposted 14 years ago

   Oh yes. The Catholic church has been bringing pressure to bear to get rid of all "cults" in France My definition of a cult is usually a religion with no money, but I think the scientologists are well funded.
   
   This is a private case though ?

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      MangoGirlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      In my country there is a scientologist millionaire who got his money by virtually killing people. He had a nutriment product that contained so high dozes of certain elements that people got sick beyond cure. He had a shop even in my town which is a small one. And then one day it closed and he was in the news.

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      Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I believe so - I have only seen one news report, but it seems that there is a little more to it than a simple fraud case- the state is now involved. It seems like there are a lot of people out to get them - Maybe the Catholics are funding it?
      
      The Greeks are out to get them, too. I will try to find something in English about that.
      
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8066743.stm

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         Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, that is a private one. I have no idea if the Catholics are funding it, but they have been aggressively trying to get the French government to ban "sects" and introduce more legislation to prevent "faith healers"
         
         Got to say - the last thing we need is more friggin' legislation - I can barely understand the system at the moment as it is. I am still fighting over my 2006 taxes.

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            Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I found out that they are officially banned in Greece - the Greek Orthodox church was largely behind it. Not a big fan of the church getting involved in politics, but I find it hard to shed a tear - I hate Pseudo-Scientology
            
            Sounds like the French legal system is as tortuous as the Greek - Good luck with the taxes - they are probably waiting for the hyperinflation to strike before they pay you back. You might have enough left for a loaf of bread.

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    Kudlitposted 14 years ago

    Oh my god!
    
    Tom Cruise has gone crazy!

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    Mark Knowlesposted 14 years ago

    The church of scientology has had that video removed dozens of times but people keep reposting it

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