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Do you believe Pastors hold the God given authority or carry the ordained right

  1. Sundaymoments profile image77
    Sundaymomentsposted 7 years ago

    Do you believe Pastors hold the God given authority or carry the ordained right to Judge..

    I have seen many church leaders cast judgment upon members of there congregation for backsliding and/or sinning, do these religious leaders hold a higher authority the individual who was judged?


  2. Theology4Reality profile image56
    Theology4Realityposted 7 years ago

    Goodness no! They have - usually - some special training in the areas in which they teach, but they have to be held to the same standard - or perhaps a higher one - than anyone else. Any pastor you are talking about is not meeting this standard.

  3. Claudin_Dayo profile image60
    Claudin_Dayoposted 7 years ago

    They were called to preach, not to judge ! How could do the such when they too were human- imperfect and bound to sin??!!
    They shouldn't take that authority from God the Almighty

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    sunny5555posted 7 years ago

    All pastors I am around do not judge, we know we are all sinners, and no human has any kind of Authority over me when it comes to a judgement, when I sin God is the only one that deals with me.

  5. lostdogrwd profile image61
    lostdogrwdposted 7 years ago

    read Romans 13, 1 to 6  , and Matthew 7, 1 to 5. they to teach the bible and to fellowship but today church are about the money and tell people that they have to not sin and give to he church to be save. that,s crap. Jesus did ALL THE WORK. you just have to know Jesus is there and then everything else will take care of them self. a pastor CAN NOT SAVE YOU FROM GOD WRATH. for that what we trying to get save. our  conscience  flesh with God eternal breath and spirit.

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    reeltaulkposted 7 years ago

    Oh boy......don't believe the hype dear.  They are no more righteous than their congregation

  7. nuclearmom profile image60
    nuclearmomposted 7 years ago

    They should not, nor do they/have they ever held that right.  However, find me a preacher, pastor, father, cardinal, rabbi, minister who DOESN'T judge you or anyone else who sins.  I have never encountered such a person.  Is this a bit of a generalization on my part? Yes, but unfortunately all too often to you get the end result of a little knowledge + a position of authority and it = judge and jury.  You get people quoting scripture at you like it's proof (instead of a story) and the "I have GOD on my side" better-then-thou attitude.  Don't get me wrong, I am a Christian, and I believe in the teachings of the Bible, I just don't believe it's my right or anyone else's right to shove the rulebook in everyone else's face.  God will make his decision on me by how I lived my life and what was in my heart, not by what some wannabe preacher man said I should read or do. Sorry-I'll step off the pulpit now.

  8. womenintouch profile image60
    womenintouchposted 7 years ago

    Pastors are not to judge because they are not perfect, and nor are we. Their job is to save lives and teach the truth about Gods love. Judgement does not allow room for love; only God will judge us at the thrown of his Judgement seat.

    There are many pastors who are backsliders, and have little secrets , some we know about but do we judge/ Some of us do but none of us should. There is no one righteous not one of us. We are all sinners and need the grace of God. That is why we must continually be in prayer and ask for forgiveness, even if we don't know waht we are asking it for. You may think the way you treated the store clerk was okay, or the person at work, or the Nerd at lunch time. We all need to be forgiven  and ask for forgiveness at the end of the day.

    Judgement should be left up to the All Mighty not man :

  9. Thesource profile image78
    Thesourceposted 7 years ago

    How did you arrive at this question?

    Jesus called such religious authorities "hypocrites".
    This was because the majority of them were pretend to be holier then the masses.

    Even today this stands. Have you not heard about the pedophiles in the Church? Have you not heard of Imans who calls of violence against the innocents? These are only tips of the ice-burg.

    Have you heard of rich pastors running Mega-church?
    Many have make good fortunes, having higher net-worths than their average contributor. They have no right to judge others and yet they do.

    God has not given them more authority than you. God prefers that you have a one to one relationship with Him, rather than going through them. This they cannot accept.

    Knowing theology does not mean one is Good.

    None of them are holier than thou. Go in Peace and Seek God yourself. He is patiently waiting deep inside you.

  10. ladyjojo profile image61
    ladyjojoposted 7 years ago

    A true pastor, notice i said true because there are many false ones claiming to be this and that.

    A trues one is ordained of God and has the oversight of the congregation, yes he's in place to correct you in the scriptural way. Yet he is not GOD to condemn and chastise you for every little mistake you make. He ought to have enough understanding etc. Some of them i believe over step their boundaries and take too much authority in their hands.

    We'd get chasten from time to time , the bible says no chastening seems joyous at the present , but the end thereof is joy. Do what's right okay.

  11. Shahid Bukhari profile image59
    Shahid Bukhariposted 7 years ago

    Physical ... Evidence ... is Relied upon, by Secular Judges, in determining,  the "Nature of an "Act" ... and thus, the matters of Reward or Punishment ... in their "Judgments."

    The Priests, however, are, an exception, for they rely purely, on their "own Devised" Divine "Sanction" ... viz. the Oracle of Delphi ... and their advice based Pharaonic Commands ... and so, is the case, of the Pastor/Priests, etc..

    But ... in Islamic Law, the
    First consideration, in Judging, is the considering of the "Intent" behind the Act ... and the Second, is the "Means" to an Act.

    Thus, "The Law" ... Meaning, Islamic Law, Requires, that both Intent and Means, should be Considered, and impartially Evaluated, towards all Fair Judgings.

    And whereas, Evidence, in Secular Law's Practiced, is usually "Tailored" by the Defense attorneys ... It is impossible for them to Define the True Intent involved ... so it is "Construed" with Logics. Hence, such judgings, do not represent True Justice.

    Because ... the human Intent, behind an Act ... is only Known to God. Therefore, we "should" Rely on God's Law ... than the laws made and practised by Priests ... who, have no Right of doling out common sense based Judgments, relating Human Acts.


  12. affishv profile image71
    affishvposted 7 years ago

    1 Peter 5
    To the Elders and the Flock
    1 To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder and a witness of Christ’s sufferings who also will share in the glory to be revealed: 2 Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve; 3 not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock. 4 And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away.

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