If heaven is up there and hell down below, then how did Lazarus see the rich man

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   Marliza Gunterposted 13 years ago

   If heaven is up there and hell down below, then how did Lazarus see the rich man over a gulf?
   
   Luke 16:26
   26.  And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that [would come] from thence.  (Luke 16:26) ...Some say that hell will surface, any explanation to this question according to the Bible?

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   kewelnessposted 13 years ago

   When Lazarus went to heaven, he actually went to a place known as Paradise, or "Abraham's bosom," where the sould of the righteous dwelt, waiting for the Messiah to free them.  Paradise was kind of a temporary apartment in Sheol, or hell.  God is not mentioned in this parable, so Paradise is not the same as Heaven, God's dwelling place.  That is how Lazarus saw the rich man across a gulf.  My Scripture references are found in Luke 23:43, John 20:17, Mark 11:25-26

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   SirDentposted 13 years ago

   First things first.  No mention of Lazarus seeing the rich man is made in the text of the Bible.  Abraham was the one who could see across the gulf andf the rich man likewise could see across it.
   
   Lazarus was in paradise, "Luk 23:43  And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise."  Paradise used here according to strong's greek dictionary means Eden.  Paradise is not heaven.
   
   The chasm between Paradise and hell, (hades), cannot be crossed by man.  God is able to cross this chasm or gulf.

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   r-o-yposted 13 years ago

   According to scripture, Lazarus did not go directly to heaven when he died, no mortal went to heaven before the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He went into the belly of the earth [in side of the iron core at the center of the earth] both good and bad went to the same place, but they were kept separate from each other. People ask, how in the world can all the billions of people that ever lived up to the time fit into the tiny core at the center of the earth?  The confusion come in when we neglect to take in the fact that the spirit world and the physical world operate by a different set of laws. Jesus asked the demon inside the possessed what’s his name, the demon replied we are legion:
   
   Legion= Ancient Hist Roman army division: in ancient Rome, an army division of 3,000 to 6000 soldiers, including cavalry. 
   
   Think about it, if 6,000 spirits can live inside of that little man, image how many spirits can live inside the iron core in the belly of the earth.
   
   So they were not in heaven, they were in the belly of the earth, it was not until after the death of Christ that Lazarus was released from the belly of the earth. Jesus descended into hell to set the captive free.

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      celafoeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      no one ever goes to heaven and God moves from heaven to the new earth to live among His sons for eternity after the judgment.
      the "church" teachings about the end times are the imaginations of carnal men (without the Spirit),not compatble w/scripture

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   tenordjposted 13 years ago

   This parable was meant to be a glimpse as to what hell will be like. The great gulf will be fixed between heaven and hell on judgement day. I believe this will separate the two and that those in hell will be able to see into heaven but will not be able to cross that void. Those in heaven will not be able to see across the void because in heaven there will be no more sorrow and no more tears those who did not make it will be wiped from our memory. Once you have been judged you will not cross that void again if you have not come to repentance and are not saved by the grace of God  then you will be in torment in hell and if you have repented then you will be in paradise in heaven. I truly believe that is what this verse means and that entire parable is quite strong and there are many more points to be made within that parable that gives us a clear glimpse of what hell will be like.

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   AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 13 years ago

   This parable was given to give human beings a understanding of the reality of heaven and hell. GOD given me a vision of the other side of death on August 1, 1982 A.D. It is the ultimate reality for human beings. I personally know where I will be going to on the other side of death. I am a real person who have been there and will you believe it ? Of course not and that is nothing new under the sun for human beings. I am just a messenger for humanity that I have been there and that it is real. GOD have prepared a special place for every human being in heaven and hell according to that individual life on the earth. GOD have given me a sneak preview for my life on the other side of death for human beings on August 1, 1982 A.D. a Sunday morning. Thank you.

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      celafoeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      did you thank satan for the trip?    No one ever goes to heaven  the righteous inherit the earth.   Hell has noting to do with eternity. Get behind me satan you did not go to heaven but did visit your god satan

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