Why do Mormon say that the Journal of Discourses (Brigham Young's sermons) is no

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    passingthewordposted 7 years ago

    Why do Mormon say that the Journal of Discourses (Brigham Young's sermons) is not LDS Doctrine

    Brigham Young said, "I have never yet preached a sermon and sent it out to the children of men, that they may not call scripture." (Journal of Discourses 13:95).
    so the false prophecies he made, he says came from God.
    the AFRICAN NEGROES, the idolatrous Hindoos, or any other of the fallen nations that dwell upon the face of the earth. They are not kept in reserve in order to come forth to receive such a DEGRADED PARENTAGE upon the earth;...” (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, p. 63)
    Brigham young calls this doctrine. so if you call your self a mormon this is what you should believe

  2. Monty_D_RM profile image59
    Monty_D_RMposted 7 years ago

    First, I would like to point out that it is more than just Brigham Young's sermons in the Journal of Discourses.

    That being said, even though the vast majority of the JoD is clearly aligned with LDS doctrine, it is not a definitive, authorized source for us. I can disregard the whole multi-volume set because we are not accountable for what's in there, no more than we are for the personal speculations of any other Church leader.

    But I still don't think that answers your question. If you read the whole sermon in context, you would find that Brigham Young made it clear that his statement should not mean that anything he said was scripture, but only that which he had the opportunity to correct and send to the Saints as scripture. Further, President George Q. Cannon explained that the scriptures (Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price) are the only source of official doctrine, coupled with later revelation to the prophets that has been presented to the Church and sustained.

  3. TimRBerman profile image89
    TimRBermanposted 2 years ago

    Regarding the doctrine of "Ham's Curse" or the "Curse of Cain": A very methodic and thorough research into this understanding will reveal that many of its teaching derives from Judeo-Christian sermons and thoughts. Much of it long before the foundation of the Mormon Church. Many of the early Church leaders brought with them some of these teachings because that is what they heard growing up and understood. Today, we judge such teachings as racist. While it is racist in our social standards today - we neglect the social standards and beliefs of the historical context therein. It was early Protestant Christians and Jewish people that promoted and taught this doctrine as being "scripture" and "of God".

    As for the Journal of Discourse, we have to take the teachings in their historical context. Much like the Old Testament, there are some good principles that we can draw from and apply in our lives. However, we no longer operate under the Hebrew theocratic law of Moses and the Levitical laws. This means, God, at some point between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant changed his mind in the way people lived their lives.