LDS:we need Joseph Smith consent to get into heaven

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   passingthewordposted 12 years ago

   Quotes by the second Prophet Brigham Young:
   No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith… He reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity and calling, as God does in Heaven" - Journal of Discourses, Vol.14, p.203
   
   "The time was when a test of a Christian was his confession of Jesus Christ…This is no test for this generation…This generation, however, is not left without a test. I have taught for thirty years, and still teach, that he that believeth in his heart and confesseth with his mouth that Jesus is the Christ and that Joseph Smith is his Prophet to this generation, is of God; and he that confesseth not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent Joseph Smith with the fulness of the Gospel to this generation, is not of God, but is antichrist." Journal of Discourses, Vol.9, p.312.

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      passingthewordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Joseph Fielding Smith said: [There is] "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190).

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         tussinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         And to think Mormons always accuse Catholics of being polythesitic. Oh well, not my religion, not my problem.

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   Paul Wingertposted 11 years ago

   What a con job!!! LOL Just like Christianity!

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      SummerSizzlerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Or could you be con job in believing what you believe?

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   Mighty Momposted 11 years ago

   And we Christians get judged by Peter at the Pearly Gates.
   Commonality: You gotta pass a test to get into Heaven.
   Difference: Who's grading your test.
   

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      a49eracctposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      ...We don't "pass a test"... Our lives are looked at and accepted/rejected. You could be an atheist who uses their last breath to claim jesus as their savior, and still get through the gate.

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         Paul Wingertposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Judism, Christianity, and Islam judgement is based on the ancient Eqyptian belief that a person has to go through a judgment to prove that the deceased led an honorable life in order to enter the afterlife.

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            a49eracctposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Exactly..not a test there. But of course, this is just my opinion.

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         Billy Hicksposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         "..We don't "pass a test"... Our lives are looked at and accepted/rejected. "
         
         Sorry, but that one made me laugh...

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   psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

   Blah blah blah Mormonism is bad blah blah.

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      Motown2Chitownposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Most intelligent part of the discourse so far.

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   passingthewordposted 11 years ago

   “I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him.
   Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155

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   pisean282311posted 11 years ago

   obvioysly...LDS is perfectly right...without joseph smith non can dream of getting into heaven...

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      passingthewordposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      ? what about Jesus?

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         pisean282311posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         @passing jesus is impt but none can reach heaven without joseph smiths permission....

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            passingthewordposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            1 Timothy 2:5
            
            For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
            
            John 14:6
            
            Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

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               pisean282311posted 11 years agoin reply to this

               @passing doesnot matter...joseph smith came after jesus...old testament prohibits worshipping any1 other than YAHWEH...new testament altered that...in same line this was altered with joseph smith...accept joseph smith to go to heaven...thats mandatory....

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                  passingthewordposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Old testament promised of a saver a new covenant (testament). Jesus is our new covenant (testament.
                  "I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles (Isaiah 42:6; 49:8).
                  This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you (Luke 22:20)."
                  So you think Joseph Smith Is you "new newer covenant?" Do you think Joseph Smith is your saver?

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                     pisean282311posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     @passing wht do u mean by my saver..it is for all human kind...for heaven u need permission of joseph smith...

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                        passingthewordposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Like Jesus died for the world. He saved us from hell. Do u think Joseph smith is your saver?

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                           pisean282311posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           @passing joseph smith is not saver...jesus is saver...joseph smith is incharge of heaven...no heaven without joseph smith...the faster world gets that , more people would get into heaven...or else in name of jesus they would keep wondering why didnt they get ticket of heaven...u cant get ticket for heaven unless u ask right man and that is joseph smith...

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                              passingthewordposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              What do u mean the faster world knows. How is Joseph in charge of heaven. God is the judge he is let people into heaven remember the book of life.
                              Doesn't it say that Gabriel is at the gate?

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                                 pisean282311posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 @passing it got corrected with joseph smith...god is best judge...who are u and me to question god...he made joseph  smith incharge...praise lord and get joseph smith's consent ...that is only way to heaven...

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                                    passingthewordposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    Where is Jesus in all of this. Where does it say that it was corrected?

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                                       pisean282311posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                       @passing jesus never said he had to be corrected..boss of jesus himself corrected...god knows better ...he can correct jospeh smith too...but as of now jospeh smith consent is necessary for getting heaven...

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                                    passingthewordposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    Why do u believe this? Because most Mormon would say that this is not doctrine because this was written in the j of d. R u lds  or rlds? And are u American? You are a little bit hard to understand.

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