Did Jesus say to love apart from not sharing the truth?

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  1. atomswifey profile image57
    atomswifeyposted 15 years ago

    This is not so simple to answer is it?

    How are we showing His love, demonstrating His love to people if we do not share His word to them?

    1. chukra G profile image59
      chukra Gposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      LOVE no need WORDS

    2. Sanctus Vesania profile image60
      Sanctus Vesaniaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Let me give you a situation, with three characters.  Two of them are 'christian', but one is not.   After this story, the one who showed loved should be obvious.

      There's a woman who's down on her luck.  She's lost her job a couple of months ago, was unable to pay rent, and has now been thrown out.  She has no place to go, because either her family is dead, or estranged from her.  She's been homeless for only three days, but it's enough.

      On this day a young neatly dressed man walks up to her, and asks, "May I share the good news of Jesus Christ with you?"

      The woman says, "Yeah, sure," she has nowhere to be.

      The young man then tells her how God loves her so much that if she just calls on Him for help, Jesus will save her from Hell.  Otherwise she'll be damned.

      The woman's stomach growls, and being brave she asks, "I haven't ate in at least two days, would you spare me a few dollars for some food?"

      the young man says, "I'm sorry, I have no money."  Then his phone rings, and he answers it, "Hello?"  long pause, "Yes, I have the fifty dollars that I owe you!  Hey, how about also getting some lunch right now?  My treat!"

      He turns to the lady, and says, "Now, I hope you accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior!  God bless!"  and he leaves.

      A few feet away, an older gentleman has been watching the whole thing.  He walks up to the woman, and says, "I couldn't help, but to here about your situation; would you like to join me for lunch?  I also have a colleague of mine who's looking for some employs, let's talk about this, and we'll see what we can do."

      The woman accepts, during the lunch the man shares his testimony with the woman.

      NOW, who was closer to showing the love of Christ?  The first one or second one?

      1. atomswifey profile image57
        atomswifeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        The second.

        Now having answered that, you show me where I have not shown love. Show me, prove to me that you are correct in your judgements of me!
        People start threads, they start topics for discussion.

        I answer very honestly, not alone from my own opinions to but with scripture to back my words with Gods. Now you tell me please how that is not showing love on here.

        As I am not in the position of sharing the message any other way while online. In that scenario you gave you are refering to people who are greeting eachother in a face to face and physical way. Which is for sure not the way we greet and are in meeting in the forum.

      2. Davinagirl3 profile image60
        Davinagirl3posted 15 years agoin reply to this

        I like this story.  It illustrates the question of whether it is better to speak of God's word, or to be a walking, talking, member of God's people here on earth.

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    Lady_Eposted 15 years ago

    Hi Atomswifey

    (waving at yah)

    In my opinion, people need to use wisdom. You can demonstrate the love of God without talking about the Bible. Honestly.
    I've shared this before - a muslim friend of mine decided to be a Christian because of me and I never, ever once preached the Bible to her. (I was just always there for her (vice versa) amongst other things - not one for blowing trumpets).

    If the opportunity presents itself, then yes, share the Word. E.g if people genuinely are interested and ask you or maybe someone is feeling suicidal....or some other reasons.

    I'm sorry to say that I know christians who share the word etc but if someone was going through a hard time and they were in a very good position to help - they wouldn't lift a finger.(Hence - sharing the Word but not showing love).

    In conclusion, I don't think we should necessarily share the Word or force people to listen. You can still show "His" love without all that. smile

    1. atomswifey profile image57
      atomswifeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      So very true my friend smile (and a wave back at ya lol)
      And so I have tried to do in this forum; answered questions, responded to people through His word. My point is exactly that. I don't believe I ever "forced" anyone to read it or believe it, on here it just stated it.

      I know there those who disagree with me about that but it is the truth. I may have quoted a lot of scripture but I have discussed a lot of my own perspectives as well.

      I think it is important on a forum like this to offer varying degrees of ideas, beliefs, thoughts and the like without resorting to insults.

      I also believe it is essential to share Gods Word with everyone regardless of how some might "take it".
      I feel that in sharing His Word we are demonstrating not only our faith, but love itself.

      I think to show Gods love, to show His love we are required to share His Word at times, which is love. And as you said if one is genuinely interested in having their questions answered etc. Like in the forums where we discuss and offer our responses. Which is much different than a face to face or one on one discussion.

      Just my thoughts on it smile

      But too I get what you said about only citing scripture and not giving anything else. I know quite a few believers who do that very thing, and yes not very loving at all!
      It's like,
      "Nice scripture there, but uhm, how is it going to feed my kids tonight"? right?
      lol

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    Scott.Lifeposted 15 years ago

    Here's a simple question how many times are you going to reword the same topic and try to get a different answer? If you want to know what love is direct yourself to 1 Corinthians 13, is that your question how do know what love is towards another? Here's an idea love does not offend or stir up strife.

    How are we demonstrating our love without sharing his word are you serious? Are you actually saying that the only way to demonstrate love is to share the word? That this is the truest expression of love to share the Gospel?

    Here's a question did Jesus say the only way to show my Love is to share the Gospel?

    1. Misha profile image65
      Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      That's exactly the message I heard from this lady so far smile

    2. atomswifey profile image57
      atomswifeyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus is the gospel my friend!
      And to show His love He shared the gospel! To show the truth that lies in salvation we are to share the gospel!
      Is that the only way we show towards eachother? No. I was not saying that at all!

      You are slamming me for something you have no clue about as you were not involved in any of the discussions I have had on here!
      You do not know in what context I have used in quoting scripture now do you??
      No you don't because if you did you would know that I have not judged, but only have loved in sharing the gospel in a way as to reflect what I believe is right about any particualr subject!

      Now with that said, I know what 1 corinthians says about love. In pointing that out to me you have done exactly what I have done on here. Now are you now going to admit to same thing I have done and accuse yourself of being a pharisee over it?

      Look at my posts before you respond to me on this

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        Scott.Lifeposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Thats my point I'm doing exactly what you are but you take offense. Wow that's a double standard. I read all your post once again you assume I don't I've yet to read where you've answered anyone's questions without simply rewording your own original beliefs and sidestepping the point.

        If I'm doing exactly what you are as you stated and it offends you then this is the point where a reasoning person might reevaluate their own offensive actions.HMMMM....

        Just a thought, when have I ever told anyone that what they believed was wrong and against God's word. I've never told you your beliefs were wrong but have repeatedly cautioned you to watch the way you present them as to not be offensive, rude, or derogatory. Whose the one not reading posts now AW, You have yet to answer any of my questions on your other threads, in fact every time I use your own tactic against you to refute your line of justification you ignore it all together, and go start another thread. we can play this game all day.

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      \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      NO HE DID NOT.... he wanted us to show love in every aspect of our life..... hi Scott. Life how are ya

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        Scott.Lifeposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        I'm great Brenda having a fantastic day, just dancing around the forums.

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          \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          dance on to the one about the weekend bad co is on there messing around

  4. Sanctus Vesania profile image60
    Sanctus Vesaniaposted 15 years ago

    Do I smell a martyr complex here?  All I did was give a scenario about what true love is, and is not, and suddenly you turned it into a "Oh woe is me!  You are judging me, I am such a martyr!"

    You really want to show love?  Really?  Stop posting topic after topic asking questions for discussions, and then misreading everything that anyone writes (unless it agrees with you.)  Stop reading everything as "we all hate you and condemn you."

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    lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago

    Can we not just drop it all? AW you have a child, you need to be with that child instead of on here spouting all of this. No one is attacking you they are simply trying to state their own side to the coin.

    The internet is a great place to meet people in a lonely world but you have a family. Why do you feel the need to be here amidst all this negativity when there are those that love you right there at your fingertips?

    I'm sorry if this is harsh or gets me banned or whatever but I had my time, it was taken away from me almost permanently. You are wasting the precious gift of life given to you by sitting in these forums all day long with this drivle.

    1. Davinagirl3 profile image60
      Davinagirl3posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      This is pretty harsh.  I don't agree with AW, in most cases, but I would not assume that she is neglecting her family.  Let's put things into perspective.  If you do not agree with AW, just ignore her.  It is not right to bring her family into it.

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        lynnechandlerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        You're right Davina and I am sorry. I retract it. I apologize to AW and everyone else. Moving on now.

        1. Davinagirl3 profile image60
          Davinagirl3posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Let's move on to a completely different thread.  These angry threads bring the worst out in all of us.

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            sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Well here is what we should do Davina.  We should then in turn show more love... "kill'um with kindness". big_smile  When one post something negative, we should then post something more positive.

            We will just have to prove to AW that love doesn't have boundaries, love is not an obligation and love isn't purchased.

            Love is given full and free.  It is without the expectations for rewards.  Love gives love out of love because in love all things blossom.  It's burgeons and the seed of love takes root in all hearts and grows like wild fire. 

            Maybe instead of ignoring the post we should just sprinkle so much love on it that it because so nauseatingly (lol) lovely that "hate" is forced to leave. big_smile

  6. profile image0
    \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago

    come on to ours about having a laugh at the weeken... tell a joke or two

    1. Davinagirl3 profile image60
      Davinagirl3posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      All the jokes I know are not appropriate for this forum... or any forum.

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        BadCoposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Sounds good to me Davina smile

  7. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
    My Friend Shiylohposted 15 years ago

    Love is edifying towards something greater.
    Love teaches those who can receive.
    Love gives light.
    If one can no longer be taught, they chose to stop receiving love.
    Love allows others to choose life and love or something else.
    Love honors the choice of another to choose.
    Love does not seek it's own way.
    Love needs no defense and nothing can defend against love.

    ~Shiyloh~  big_smile

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      \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      love is the best medicine

    2. profile image0
      \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      love is the best medicine

  8. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
    My Friend Shiylohposted 15 years ago

    I felt strongly this needs to be in both topics, not spamming. big_smile


    I beileve we need less of this.   

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    And more of this.

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    Credits ~Misty Horizon~

 
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