Does the Bible offend anyone?
And if you think it does, what is it about the Bible or certain scriptures that makes you think this way?
Sometimes I think the Bible is sexist. It doesn't treat women like people. Women are almost non-existent in the Bible except as prizes of war.
But then, those were the social conventions of the times the Bible was written, and the social conventions of the people doing the recording. God's word or no, it wasn't sent by fax from heaven, it was human beings who made this record.
So, I make allowances. I extract what I find good in there and sort of let the rest go.
I agree. Most people do not take into account that there is wisdom in the bible, but also a lot of politics. The bible has been edited, and translated, hundreds of times. It has been re-created to fit an agenda. I am thankful that many of the beautiful sentiments are still intact.
I am not sure what bible you have been reading but the bible is filled with heroic women; strong women. I use tho think the way you do but then as I began to really pay attention I came to realize that I was wrong.
It's the way the Bible is read; I've shown those passages about the heroic, strong women, and been told things like "Well, it was a one time deal." or "Well, no, that doesn't really count."
I'd be like yeah right pal...and Debora did not count?
How about Ester....she not count either you idiot?
Or how about the one named Mary ? was she strong or what?
And Rahab?
The ones that twist the Scriptures offend me. http://hubpages.com/hub/Homosexuals-In-Heaven
Does the Bible offend me? On the contrary, I see it as a book to live buy. The true nature of God is within it's pages. This world would be a better place if the Bible and prayer were not removed from schools, where is should be taught and followed. Why is the Bible on the Best Sellers List year after year?
m I know what you mean about that. I read about the way Jesus treated women his mother, the woman at the well etc, he treated them how we would love to be treated so i concentrate on those aspects...
I have studied Revelation a lot and still find it hard to understand, it is mostly symbolic
The Bible in no way offends me. I believe it is an inspirational work and not to be confused with be all end all. There are many manuscripts not included and one has to wonder why.
When Emporer Constantine assembled the group who would establish the faith there was much discussion as to what was included and what should be infered. This was centuries after Christs life. Could we have mixed it up?
I have trouble with people who end any discussion with scipture as the inaliable and definitive truth. Yes the Bible speaks to your heart and the stories and parables teach us our nature but it is up to us to transform through our hearts and knowledge what is best for us.
Do you believe Messiah is The Truth ?
I believe in God and what he reveals to me through his prophets and lessons.
So did Messiah not say He is The TRUTH?
Was HE just a prophet?
Do you believe Messiah is God?
To be worshiped as God?
The only mediator between God and mankind?
If you want to quote bible verses to get to the bottom of a judgement as to the validity of my faith you must do it with something more than statements from a source that is in question. If it offends you that I could believe Christ was just a prophet of God rather than his Son, a belief in him is there non the less. But the symantec of having to make him the only valid source of my beliefs would be overlooking a lot of other truths in this world.
OK, so He is just a prophet to you.
Do you believe what He said then?
I agree with you
Although really nothing in the Bible offends me. It's a book and a tool filled with advice. It's a guide and a collection of writings of a people and their struggles as such made to unify that people and give them a common source of wisdom to refer to in times of doubt and fear. It was also written to the best of their knowledge.
What offends me are those who quote it out of context to justify the rather human emotion of hate, fear, and discrimination.I believe you get out of it what you put into it.
I think that if one reads the Proverbs first, then they get all the wisdom they need for living. This offends many as the proverbs have so much truth in them people cannot deal with it.
Thousands of 2 or 3 line scriptures that baffle and boggle the mind of man.
None of them are considered stories and they cannot be discounted.
Trying to live by them is a monumental task to say the least, impossible to say the most.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cf … q=proverbs
It has a nice passage about the virtuous woman too.
Pro 31:10
Who can find a virtuous and capable wife? She is worth more than precious rubies.
Her husband can trust her, and she will greatly enrich his life.
She will not hinder him but help him all her life.
She finds wool and flax and busily spins it.
She is like a merchant's ship; she brings her food from afar.
She gets up before dawn to prepare breakfast for her household and plan the day's work for her servant girls.
She goes out to inspect a field and buys it; with her earnings she plants a vineyard.
She is energetic and strong, a hard worker.
She watches for bargains; her lights burn late into the night.
Her hands are busy spinning thread, her fingers twisting fiber.
She extends a helping hand to the poor and opens her arms to the needy.
She has no fear of winter for her household because all of them have warm clothes.
She quilts her own bedspreads. She dresses like royalty in gowns of finest cloth.
Her husband is well known, for he sits in the council meeting with the other civic leaders.
She makes belted linen garments and sashes to sell to the merchants.
She is clothed with strength and dignity, and she laughs with no fear of the future.
When she speaks, her words are wise, and kindness is the rule when she gives instructions.
She carefully watches all that goes on in her household and does not have to bear the consequences of laziness.
Her children stand and bless her. Her husband praises her:
"There are many virtuous and capable women in the world, but you surpass them all!"
Charm is deceptive, and beauty does not last; but a woman who fears the Lord will be greatly praised.
Reward her for all she has done. Let her deeds publicly declare her praise.
I don't think it's the Bible itself, but I hate how certain people ("Christian" men especially) love to use certain parts of the Bible to condone beating their wives.
I'm also not much of a fan of the whole "Women be submissive to men," but, maybe that's because in today's society.
SUBMISSIVE = YOU ARE A WEAK INFERIOR PIECE OF SCUM!
I never heard that before. The thought of beating a woman to get her to submit makes me cringe. Is there any particular sect or have you seen this in general.
I also believe that the males of the time the bible was compiled included this submission clause based on their cultural beliefs. Paul who is famous for much of the New Testament was purported to have been quite a chauvinist.
I believe we get out of it, what the holy spirit puts into it.
If you go into it with an attitude of hate and anger you're going to find passages that support that, does that mean that the Holy spirit put hate and anger in to it or that you carried it with you and thus interpreted it to reflect that. You think there is a world filled with enemies and people trying to persecute you, you will see and find them.
Even evil spirits can read the Bible to us. I can't recount the number of times I thought I was going to Hell, because I made mistakes.
The holy spirit does not twist the scripture to make it something other than the truth it is.
I never said that, please read what I write before you type something.
The bible says ... Wife's submit to your husbands
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husbands submit to your wife's
two becomes one to submit to self
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