How long could you live without your grocery stores?

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   sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

   when the next global catastrophe occurs we will encounter mass starvation. While you sit and eat dinner consider this, America has become so dependent upon fuel and towns no longer make their own food.
   
   How long could your town survive without crocery stores? Mine would make it less than 2 weeks.
   
   I don't want to get all "conspiracy like" on the possibilities here, but some major things have happened to our ability to survive in the last 100 years.
   
   heck I don't even know how to field dress a deer.
   
   where do you stand.

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      Army Infantry Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      At our house we have about 4 weeks of supplies put up just for an emergency like that.

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   I have a gun and the people behind me have a whole bunch of cows.

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      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      haha!!!
      
      how long could we survive? especially those of us in urban areas?
      
      not too long, i fear...

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         LEFT HAND OF GODposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Love has no fear.

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            cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            hmm.
            
            i'll study on that for a while.
            
            
            
            i'm not worried either...not even concerned, really. but this does make me reflect on how quickly the social veneer crumbles. then again, maybe most people would rise up and help their fellow man. this all reminds me of a book i read once:
            
            From "Farnham's Freehold":
            
            "They had lived through the missles, they lived through the bombs, they lived through the fires, they lived through the epidemics - which were not extreme and may not have been weapons; both sides disclaimed them - and they lived through the long period of disorders while civil government writhed like a snake with a broken back. They lived. They went on.
            
            Their sign reads:
            
            FARNHAM'S FREEHOLD
            TRADING POST & RESTAURANT BAR
            
            American Vodka
            Corn liquor
            Applejack
            Pure Spring Water
            Grade "A" Milk
            Corned Beef & Potatoes
            Steak & Fried Potatoes
            Butter & some days Bread
            Smoked Bear Meat
            Crepes Suzettes to order.
            !!!Any BOOK Accepted as Cash!!!
            DAY NURSERY
            !!!FREE KITTENS!!!
            Blacksmithing, Machine Shop, Sheet Metal Work-You Supply The Metal
            FARNHAM SCHOOL OF CONTRACT BRIDGE
            Lessons by Arrangement
            Social Evening Every Wednesday
            WARNING!!!
            Ring Bell. Wait. Advance with your Hands Up. Stay on path, avoid mines. We lost three customers last week. We can't afford to lose YOU. No sales tax.
                Hugh and Barbara Farnham & Family
                         Freeholders
            
            
            High above their sign their homemade starry flag is flying high - and they are *still* going on.

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   Deers are rampant here

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   Jane@CMposted 14 years ago

   If I look out my back window, there are more than enough geese for our entire town, enough deer, and soon the turkeys should arrive.

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   sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

   now lets suppose the other 60+ thousand(my towns size) are hunting the animals you see?

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Nah, half of them are vegans, another half are green

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         Jane@CMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Misha - LOL!

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   sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

   Really, how dependant are we on fuel and crocery stores? Its amazing. I could see my super walmart cleared in one day.

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      lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I actually have seen stores cleared in a day. In 1998 I was moved to Miami (corporate relocation). Hurricane season was soon upon us, and very quickly, a massive hurricane was building and heading towards the south Florida coast. The news said it would bring "catastrophic devastation" and would be worse than Hurricane Andrew (which it turned out not to be).
      
      Miami went nuts. There were 3+ hour waits at the gas stations to get gas, and the Miami-Dade police were at all of them. Complete aisles of canned goods, bottled water/drinks were GONE at the local Winn Dixies and Publix! I made my way to BJ's (or CostCo or Sam's) in northern Miami and found what turned out to be their last case of bottled water. I literally had people trying to grab it out of my cart as I headed for the checkout.
      
      So in all of the blizzards, earthquakes, hurricanes and wars I've lived through, I've only seen that stuff happen once. So am I too worried about things? No.

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         sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I am more interested in the dependency upon fuel. A disruption of that would cause chaos.

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            lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Nuh uh. I have friends who were in the middle of Katrina. Fuel meant nothing. There was no space on the roads! They happened to be visitors sending their son off to Tulane. There were no rental cars, cabs, nothing to get them out of town. I told them to get onto the roadside and put their thumbs up. They did and they got a ride. Fuel wasn't the biggest issue.

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   LEFT HAND OF GODposted 14 years ago

   I know Someone who can provide for me endlessly, so I do not concern myself with it.
   
   I have always had stock on hand for a month and when it runs out, I will be provided for, no big deal.
   
   The multiplication of physical things is not hard.

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      sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      ahh, thats how I would survive as well. In fact- let me ask you, do you feel storing massive amounts of food is lack of faith?
      
      I do.

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         LEFT HAND OF GODposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Get what you can and can what you get.
         If you have room for it, go ahead. If you are forced out of your house though, it matters not. It is wise to be like the ant says proverbs.

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            sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Those that gathered manna for the next day, found that it was taken by worms. God was looking for discipline when he told them to only gather bread for that day.
            
            next- Matthew 14:30 But when he [Peter] saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
            Matthew 14:31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?
            
            Jesus also explained that our life is worth more than that of a bird and he feeds the birds.

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               LEFT HAND OF GODposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               You have to remember who led them into the place where they could not provide food for themselves or farm.
               So if we find ourselves in that place I know what will happen too.
               You have to be wise and then if GOD wants you to leave it all behind, then go on!!!

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   We have a water and food storage system and we have guns.

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   LEFT HAND OF GODposted 14 years ago

   Jesus fed all of those people with the fish and bread because they were away from home.

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    LEFT HAND OF GODposted 14 years ago

    He is what I stand on:
    
    Psa 91:1        Those who live in the shelter of the Most High will find rest in the shadow of the Almighty.
    Psa 91:2       This I declare of the Lord: He alone is my refuge, my place of safety; he is my God, and I am trusting him.
    Psa 91:3       For he will rescue you from every trap and protect you from the fatal plague.
    Psa 91:4       He will shield you with his wings. He will shelter you with his feathers. His faithful promises are your armor and protection.
    Psa 91:5       Do not be afraid of the terrors of the night, nor fear the dangers of the day,
    Psa 91:6       nor dread the plague that stalks in darkness, nor the disaster that strikes at midday.
    Psa 91:7       Though a thousand fall at your side, though ten thousand are dying around you, these evils will not touch you.
    Psa 91:8       But you will see it with your eyes; you will see how the wicked are punished.
    Psa 91:9       If you make the Lord your refuge, if you make the Most High your shelter,
    Psa 91:10       no evil will conquer you; no plague will come near your dwelling.
    Psa 91:11       For he orders his angels to protect you wherever you go.
    Psa 91:12       They will hold you with their hands to keep you from striking your foot on a stone.
    Psa 91:13       You will trample down lions and poisonous snakes; you will crush fierce lions and serpents under your feet!
    Psa 91:14       The Lord says, "I will rescue those who love me. I will protect those who trust in my name.
    Psa 91:15       When they call on me, I will answer; I will be with them in trouble. I will rescue them and honor them.
    Psa 91:16       I will satisfy them with a long life and give them my salvation."

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       lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You are kidding, right? It's late here and I'm tired, so excuse me if I'm missing some irony. And if not, then WTF is your problem? Don't you belong in some fanatic....er....I mean 'religion' forum somewhere?

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    dohn121posted 14 years ago

    Hey guys!  Don't fret!  Watch and learn!
    
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6kv_eGSGZ4
    
    

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       cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       and on that note i will say goodnight.
       
       p.s. love those Soggy Bottom Boys!

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          dohn121posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Me too!  Oh Brother, Where Art Thou is a classic!

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    cosetteposted 14 years ago

    someone push me out the door. every time i get set to leave something else catches my eye

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    atomswifeyposted 14 years ago

    growing up in Michigan and back and forth from southern california I had the best of both worlds. Living the casual life in CA and the hunting,(though I flunked the first hunters exam on purpose in protest for Bambi!) lol seriously I did that. Then I was told if I did that again I'd fail the whole class it was being taught in so I passed it. but I digress... fishing, boating, farming, gardening life in the other. Plus, My hubby's nickname is "Mcgyver" so I think we'd be ok.

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