Unfortunately for the atheist, God never revealed or proved his creatorhood to Adam or Eve. I looked closely at Genesis and noticed that God created everything away from their sight, bringing the animals TO Adam as it says, even putting him
to sleep when making his wife! O how clever, that omnipotent figure, setting man up for FAITH from the very beginning, intimidating the beasts of the field with authoritative claims towards man, such as sudden death upon eating a tree, the beasts deciding to use man as a guiney pig to test those claims, the serpent being the "most subtil" at figuring out how to do this.
If you doubt the idea that God is ruthlessly clever, consider the unknown fact that God has a host of lying spirits attending him in heaven whom he sends out to spread lies:
 And the LORD said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.
 Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will entice him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?
 And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.
 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.
I will be posting to my hub "God's superior cleverness" countless NDE's (near death experiences) where time and time again dead fools consistently meet robed angelic figures who verbally discourage the idea of a fearful judgmental God. Meet the "lying spirits."
Also consider: "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" 2 Thes. 2:11
And, "he taketh the wise in their own craftiness." Job 5:13
I possess "advanced revelations" from a literal standpoint on scripture you will not believe, from my own personal bible study. I will be bringing you every one of them with time here at this portal of the internet.
Ha - I see your "advanced revelations," and raise you a "spoken unto by the Lord."
I have been "convikted" - which is three stages higher in esoteric knowledge and only one step down from "lying prophet."
Therefore I win.
I like what you have written, it gives a true individual view of spiritual reality but I do have to point out that not all spirits lie and there is a good reason for their lies. I have been angry a few times for being lied to but overall spirits to provide honesty and their lies are only tricks to bring good. Actions speak louder than words anyway. A false prophet could be many people and this notion prevents many from speakng out but being honest with your views and findings is always a good thing, even if it helps others learn from their mistakes. But I see the quotes you have written differently. The last quote, to me, is only what God would do when someone lies against him. The diverse ordinances are his promise of the same and can be viewed in real life everyday. Even film writers use the same theories of karma when they write their stories..
Welcome Fear God,I will be watching for your material.Good luck.
Happy to see another apologist here, Welcome!
O how clever, that man has found ways since the very beginning to tell mythical stories to explain things that had not yet been learned.
Scientific exploration has discovered the physical causes of "divine" biblical stories, but the stories are still defended. What is the purpose?
If god is omnipotent and has superior cleverness, wouldn't it welcome man's advancing knowledge instead of stifling it?
Wouldn't it be sending new puzzles for man to solve? Maybe it's just that we just haven't found any ancient scrolls to pore over in a while. Pray to your god to reveal some more stuff... some of our scientists are getting bored.
WHAT A DELUSIONAL WAY TO PERCEIVE REALITY! UNLESS YOU WERE JOKING. YOU WERE JOKING. RIGHT?
god is m and w female produce offspring with no partner
Its unfortunate for athiests that crazy people like you believe in Adam and Eve, it was just a damn story dude. I dont understand why you lot think that we are misfortunate, if given a clear choice between eternal life and being used as fertiliser and supporting the eco-system upon death, I would choose the latter. I in fact have sympathy for those that genuinely believe their souls will exist for eternity. Not that they will be around to realise that they were wrong, but all of those lost hours that could have been spent doing fun things like gambling, sleeping around, getting pissed, having the odd smoke, punching some bloke over a football game every so often, taking something you shouldnt. You know, the fun things in life.
There are crazier things to believe, ryankett. As one of the world's greatest thinkers, Carl Everett, so astutely observes (ahem):
"God created the sun, the stars, the heavens and the earth, and then made Adam and Eve. The Bible never says anything about dinosaurs. You can't say there were dinosaurs when you never saw them. Somebody actually saw Adam and Eve. No one ever saw a Tyrannosaurus rex."
The guy's definitely on to something - I mean, what evidence do we have that dinosaurs really existed? A few fossils? Posh! I ain't seen nothing.
But of course, we have witnesses to vouch for the existence of Adam and Eve, such as *inaudible grumble*.
People really need to use simple logic and common sense. If you can believe in a mystical place called the Garden of Eden where 2 people who were never born existed, then you can believe in large reptilian animals that lived here way before us.
What seems more logical? Seriously. This "magic" place or large animals?
And who the hell saw Adam & Eve? And if they were the first people on "Earth" why didn't the millions and millions of people who existed before Judaism and Christianity were created, not know who the hell they were? haha
The Bible is made up of a ton of fictional, inspirational stories..not all the stories are fact.
It boggles my mind how truly smart people don't use logic. But, then again, their religion teaches them not to question or use logic. I wonder why
A few fossils? How about thousands of whole skeletons.. pure evidence built into the Earth's crust itself...I'd like to hear you claim those don't exist.
Are you so basic as to believe in 'evil' spirits and 'angels' ?
And you think you will bring the truth of God to us ?
you're delusional, to say the list !
And by the way, to promote yourself in this forum is not allowed.
you should learn from your God's cleverness and know better !
and welcome to hubpages !
Well, I believe in Jack and the Beanstalk. FEAR THE OGRE!
Are you supposed to "feel sorry" for people as a believer? I don't think so. You're supposed to "promote the world of god" not talk down to people and "feel sorry" for them. You have no right to judge according to your own "belief."
Goes to show you don't know your own religion or whatever you believe in.
As a non-believer, I feel sorry for you!
The most basic premise of this thesis is flawed--assuming that any other person on earth is less than your own self. Have you not sinned, fear god? If you have then you are indeed a reprobate to God as is every other human. To extoll such wisdom as you dare impart to everyone uses the premise that you are superior.
I beg to differ. You grovel for your salvation as any other soul.
Shame on you for esteeming athiests or any human as a sad case when you yourself exemplify it with such omnipotent arrogance.
Welcome to the religion forums.
Fear God Wrote :
'I possess "advanced revelations" from a literal standpoint on scripture you will not believe, from my own personal bible study. I will be bringing you every one of them with time here at this portal of the internet.'
You're right ! We will not believe
another case of hornet's nest getting disturbed... religion forum is indeed very amusing...
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