Pro 18:7 A fool's mouth is his destruction, And his lips are the snare of his soul.
I hardly agree with you on anything, but this time I think your words are WISE!
But they are not my words but the words of King Solomon.
The passage calls the person who doesn't believe in god a fool.
No!
It talks about people that open their mouth too much, and.....
Proverbs talk about what is wise or foolish to do.
What's wrong and what's right.
and those words are from sir Dent to you.
so speak to him, not me.
i'm done with you as you don't understand a thing and don't care to learn either.
Christian priests use my words in their sermons, my work is ranked with the Bible and not Sir Dents.
He is a beginner in spirituality and needs to meditate and see the light for himself.
Pro 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, Lest thou also be like unto him.
Last one this morning.
Pro 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes; But he that is wise hearkeneth unto counsel.
Mohitmisra, I've already explained this to you once.
Rational people don't care how "highly ranked," you are, they understand that ideas will stand or fall on their own merit. If you are deserving of your rank you will be able to present your ideas in such a way that they are easy to understand and present no obvious inconsistencies.
If you can't do that, then all the "rank" in the world is meaningless.
Rational people dont care if someone is ranked with the Bibles, what crap.Irratioanal and egoist people dont.
Excuse me I am sharing my philosophy and many do appreciate its , its just some jerks and fanatics who dont.
It a very good spiritual book, god works through me I am an enlightened spiritual poet,read it before making such comments please.There is one person here who has said my words are better than Jesus more down to earth,and many do relate with what I say.
Deserve my rank ? nonsense.
When I say all is god some understand and some say I am a fool but when Jesus says it is fine.This is also Hindu philosophy as well, some dont understand doesn't make me or my books ranking bad.Get ranked over my book and I will listen to you till then please dont try to teach me, its just ego.
Sir dent calls me a fool that makes all the Christian saints as well as Jesus a fool as my work is ranked alongside them ,something he doesnt have the intelligence to comprehend,foolish ego nothing else.
Ask him what is god and he replies Jesus so what does Jesus mean by my father?
He has no idea what god is simple.
I asked him if all the people which go to his church write their philosophy together can they get ranked with the Bible which is a collection of many saints writings?
He was silent as he knows it is not possible .
So give me a break please.
Is this an example of what is ranked above the Bible?
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/33289#post730989
Interesting
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/33289#post730989
This is one of your poems.
Do you really think that it can be above the Bible & Qu'ran?
And why if it's so wonderful, nobody paid attention to it on this thread ?
Get real!
Nobody's buying what you sell. And I'm not talking about the book.(explaining,just in case you didn't understand what I imply)
Show me a better poem on that topic.
some commnets from hubbers here
ady Guinevere says:
15 months ago
Yes!!
Status: Approved
ip: 72.207.120.120
Writer Rider says:
8 months ago
Very nice political poem.
Status: Approved
ip: 84.82.151.107
spirituality says:
7 months ago
inspiring
Status: Approved
ip: 24.140.118.93
ralwus says:
7 months ago
But there is also a time for war it is written. Now is time for peace, enough war has been too much! Peace is fleeting, war is repeating as long as prejudice abounds.
Status: Approved
ip: 115.133.253.25
vinay says:
7 months ago
its realy true and i hope my mother land will rich 4rever thank u.....
Status: Approved
ip: 206.188.56.74
JonTutor says:
6 months ago
Nice message in simple words... Good poem.
Status: Approved
ip: 75.47.181.194
Crazdwriter says:
4 months ago
Nice poem
Status: Approved
ip: 154.5.176.163
Carmen Borthwick says:
3 months ago
Great poem, we should all heed the warnings from mother natur
All this comments are more than 3 months old.
When everybody believed in you.
Now ????
There are people appreciating my poem correct?
Show me a better poem on this topic.
We Are Made One with What We Touch and See
We are resolved into the supreme air,
We are made one with what we touch and see,
With our heart's blood each crimson sun is fair,
With our young lives each springimpassioned tree
Flames into green, the wildest beasts that range
The moor our kinsmen are, all life is one, and all is change.
With beat of systole and of diastole
One grand great life throbs through earth's giant heart,
And mighty waves of single Being roll
From nerveless germ to man, for we are part
Of every rock and bird and beast and hill,
One with the things that prey on us, and one with what we kill
One sacrament are consecrate, the earth
Not we alone hath passions hymeneal,
The yellow buttercups that shake for mirth
At daybreak know a pleasure not less real
Than we do, when in some freshblossoming wood
We draw the spring into our hearts, and feel that life is good
Is the light vanished from our golden sun,
Or is this daedalfashioned earth less fair,
That we are nature's heritors, and one
With every pulse of life that beats the air?
Rather new suns across the sky shall pass,
New splendour come unto the flower, new glory to the grass.
And we two lovers shall not sit afar,
Critics of nature, but the joyous sea
Shall be our raiment, and the bearded star
Shoot arrows at our pleasure! We shall be
Part of the mighty universal whole,
And through all Aeons mix and mingle with the Kosmic Soul!.
We shall be notes in that great Symphony
Whose cadence circles through the rhythmic spheres,
And all the live World's throbbing heart shall be
One with our heart, the stealthy creeping years
Have lost their terrors now, we shall not die,
The Universe itself shall be our Immortality!.
Oscar Wilde
Here you have an example.
and now tell me you're better than O.Wilde!
this is your poem
MOTHER EARTH
Mother Earth actually looks after me,
She neither expects nor charges a fee.
Every year fresh fruits she provides to eat,
For those fruits, one another man will beat.
So much water is there for us all,
For water it often becomes an ugly brawl.
A tiny insect on her I am,
Feeding me with her assorted jam.
Man keeps beating her with his big bombs,
When will he realize that she is alive
and that it is wrong?
Her we must begin to appreciate,
Immediately before it gets too late.
From our puny race she will defend herself,
You are just Begging her to annihilate yourself. "
I'll explain it again. The great people you like to compare yourself to didn't earn their reputation by telling other people about how great they are. They explained powerful ideas in a way others could understand and were consequently considered great by the people they spoke to. It's something you earn, not something you get by simply laying claim to it.
All you're doing is boasting and never backing yourself up. Contrary to what you might think, that sort of behavior diminishes you in the eyes of others, not the other way around.
I have put down my philosophy in a book and got ranked by libraries,by other humans I am not ranking myself.
Hehe...aliens.
I love how people turn to something that has absolutely no evidence of even existing.
Is my name being slandered? I have called no one a fool. I did not quote anyone when I posted the above comments. Of course those verses are from the Bible also.
Let's get our stories straight, shall we?
So who were you implying and why did you call me a son of a devil earlier on? Have I ever said anything like that to you?
Jesus says I tell you you are all gods but when I say it is incorrect?
Try to understand I am a knower of god like Jesus and I can teach you, I am not trying to harm you but I will defend myself.
Oh jeez. Again with the stupid ranking argument? A supposedly enlightened poet and he believes a ranking on a random crappy website actually endows him with some authority...*rolls eyes*
Look: Mein Kampf sold almost 100,000 copies. That doesn't mean it was any good; that just means almost 100,000 idiots paid money for swill.
What has Mein Kampf got to do with the Bible? what sort of stupid comparison is this?
You're the only one comparing you the Bible.
I was comparing your silly belief that your ridiculous ranking has anything to do with your enlightenment to the sales of Mein Kampf...which although it had decent sales was a terrible book both technically and philosophically.
Its a library ranking, meaning other readers or humans are comparing it simple.Dont understand why you are so confused.
You are the extremely silly one.
The only one confused about what that means is you. *shrugs*
In fact...of all the things that people on Hubpages cannot agree about, this is not one of them. Atheists and Religionists, Liberals and Conservatives all know exactly how little your ranking means in the real world and in your level of authority on a subject. You are the only one who does not.
When you make it onto the New York Times Bestseller's list, then maybe (MAYBE) you'd have something to brag about.
Ladies and gentlemen, the words of the great poet!
You make it too easy, man.
The worst part of it is that I think you're really a nice guy for the most part, and I even think some of your ideas have spiritual merit. But your ridiculous arrogance about a meaningless ranking is just so unbecoming of a person with any dignity or intelligence, I can't help but get tickled every time you say it...
I have been telling him for 3 months now. But, he just doesn't want to listen. The greater shame that he himself doesn't see is that he claims to pass the message of "GOD" along thru his poems, then comes here and expects people to listen?
There is a definition for people who do things like this and it is NOT foolishness, stupidity, arrogance(even though he is), narrow-minded or even pathetic?
People who push through claims of being enlightened or to "KNOW" the word of "GOD" are put into two separate categories - (1) Those who really don't accept their own existence, because they don't understand their life and (2) Those who understand life, but manipulate others, so as to gain personal self-worth(not derived from self-growth), but through perpetuating misconceptions, so as to again keep others from realizing the truth of life, while they gain yet again(these types of people are called master cheaters).
Anyone taking offense to what I just said, it is for you to deal with. I have not directly attacked anyone or called any one particular person a name or insult. It's a proven fact, deduced by realizing true morality.
psychology is really very simple...it could be something as basic as someone not getting the love and attention one needed growing up, and so they spend their life giving to others to somehow receive that love and attention their soul did not receive when a child...and that can be ok, and one day that soul will mature and be comfortable with their self...or it could get ugly and that soul will harbor anger or pain and commit destruction on other souls to somehow "feel better about ones self"
who knows, the side roads a soul can take are infinite in their manifestations...a soul could even be both, terribly "evil" and wonderfully good.
Here we go again and this person claims to be spiritual ,Who are you to tell me sparkling jewel? what are your credentials ?
She has a ego problem because someone much more qualified than her is here , foolish ego problem and nothing else.
She isnt enlightened yet she will teach the person ranked next to the Bible, supreme master ,stupidity, nonsense ,nothing else.
getting caught up in someone else's "stuff" is only making more karma for you by the way you respond to it...is it not?
bow out and be confident in your self...pass your test of being the healthy mature ego.
So why keep trying to ridicule me when I answering someones questions, I mean no harm, its jus gets annoying,its not an intelligent debate.Why is my books rankings meaningless.?
I have feelings I don't like it when someone keeps butting in and calling me names.I have made peace with many atheist here even though we dont agree on certain things, we are not rude to each other and don't keep stepping on each other toes.
Someone abuse me I tell them look my work is ranked very highly meaning i do have credentials in this subject , simple.
There are many here who have a good understanding but no one who does have my credentials ,so why mock me on a religious forum?
You ask me a question I give a truthful answer and I get abused for it, what the hell is this about?
Even your words in every statement you make is all about you and nothing more.
It's NOT about god. It's not about anything except YOU? EGO!
This pass statement proves you are just a manipulator, who only looks out for his own interest and not that of others.
So, to simply put- your actions are morally wrong.
Either way, Have a great day. Yet, again, parting is such sweet sorrow? Please take your so-called philosophy and spread it among the animals(true animals, not humans). They will be glad to listen.
Mohit, how's it going? haven't talked to you in a long time. I have been very busy, as i am sure you have.
I want you to know that I think very highly of your accomplishments as a poet, you have attained something in the world that can be looked upon with goodness.
What you appear to still be working on is your acceptance of your self as someone that is worthy. Others will never fully know you, nor can anyone ever fully believe in your worthiness, that is all up to you and God.
Regardless of what others say or think, each of us has to be confident in our self, and not rely on others to hold us up. Yes, it would be nice to have others do so, but that is not always a reality in the world. so, we just have to believe in our self, be confident and mature in our own healthy ego....end of point.
Just shut up I have had enough of you okay? You are a disgrace calling your self aspiritual person and abusing someone ranked in top 10 spiritual and religious books .
Physiological problems, thank you for being so kind.
This is a library ranking.
First off, I don't ridicule you, I say exactly what I see from you. You are the one who calls what I say ridicule, so as to deflect the truth of my words, so you can justify your individual personal ego.
I told you before, it is nice that you have something to support your work, but your own ego has put too much value on it. Hence, you perpetuate the hoax of religion, even though you do not practice a religion. Your words themselves are insulting.
I told you before, if you continued with this B.S. banter, I would dismiss you as the manipulator that you are. It is now become SO OBVIOUS to others that that is exactly what you are. You don't believe the words you claim, but you claim it "GOD" is more than it's actual meaning, so you can gain whatever you want from them, either satisfaction or book sales?
Either way, you've been exposed as manipulator, yet you cannot even see that either, because of your ego.
Btw- I don't claim to know or have all the answers for people, but I do have all the answers of MY LIFE answered and the answers I have, fit into other people's life, if they simply take a look and understand the meaning, instead of reading something into what I say or trying to interpret it for something it is not.
My life's question are answered. Hence, your words of GOD are useless, because of things I've already mentioned in this thread and I am not continue to repeat myself, just because you want to debate.
My knowledge and wisdom isn't debateable information. You might think so, so you can continue manipulating people into doing what you want, but won't work on me.
My clarity about my own existence is higher than your level of consciousness, and NO I don't need to go mediate looking for answer. What takes you mediation, I don't when I wake up.
I know and understand my consciousness. This makes me completely self-aware of my actions and thoughts, and I'm out to pass it along to others. You step up on me and get into what I'm saying to others- OF COURSE - I am going to put you in your place.
We had this conversation once before and you asked me to back off. I did and later you ask to debate? There is nothing to debate, because the knowledge I have on religion isn't false.
It's actual truth.
Cagsil the last time you asked me a question I gave you an honest answer and you just abused me for doing so.
Tell me why is my books ranking meaningless?
Because you dont believe in god?
Atheist here on this forum have congratulated me for these rankings.
Exposed by who, what is that persons credentials in spirituality, may he wrote the Bible incognito and is still around?
Again abuse and nothing else.
My words of gods are useless a person ranked next to the Bible , what are you saying abuse again thats it.
So you dont believe in religions and god and so I am stupid ,my books is stupid, rankings are stupid, the people who ranked me are stupid, sages from all communities who have acknowledged and commended my work are stupid, all those ho believe in god are stupid wow.
I'm done with you. You've been a exposed as just another ego-filled individual. That's all and if you cannot see it. Too bad.
And, you really think what others think of your ranking, congratulating you about it? It's their musing of you, yet you don't see it.
Seems like you walk around blind, yet to claim enlightenment to GOD's will and word? This is what give NO credit to your words.
And, then when you get anger....you strike back. Isn't that against GOD's will? Isn't that against the very nature of what YOU CLAIM?
Again, you open your mouth and insert your foot, without realization? This gives you NO value of credit.
Go away.
Didnt you abuse me when I answered your question ?
There is no intelligent debating with you ,the moment you dont know what to say you answer by abusing.
See, now you can't even form coherent sentences you are so filled with rage.
You answered what question? I asked many question in this thread and with you spouting off about your ranking and how sad we are as people, because we don't match up to your supposed stature?(self-appointed, usurped)
What is religion hiding is the original question? You told me nothing was being hidden. And, I know it's the wrong answer, because I've learned better than to know that.
I've walked the path, I learned religion was a hoax and you want to debate about the knowledge I've come to understand.
You spin everything so it goes your way. You seem to have any answer for everything, making you a know-it-all, and no one knows everything there is to know.
Otherwise, there wouldn't be things we call unknown. Your attempt to gain something personal? What, who cares? Your ego itself has blinded, from seeing your actions as morally wrong.
You don't even read half the posts people make, but the simple fact that you respond to quickly and only pick out what you like, is a direct moral wrong. It's a chosen action that is harmful to others.
Now, that is what is called "blinded by faith". Again, have a great day, I am ALL done with you, yet again.
Okay...Try to calm down. You seem genuinely confused and hurt here. So. I will apologize if I've hurt your feelings. You are correct, that is uncalled for, and I am sorry.
HOWEVER. I will also attempt to tell you why people believe you are being arrogant and why they dislike it when you comment that your work ranks among Bibles, specifically. I want you to know that everything I'm getting ready to say is coming to you in a genuine manner. I am not trying to belittle you, offend you, or insult you. Try to imagine that I'm your friend and we're sitting on a couch, and I'm being as honest as I can, as gently as I can, about this subject. Okay? Okay.
Once upon a time there was a very wise, peaceful, worldly, and successful man. He'd traveled all over the world, met many people, studied with sages, and all kinds of wonderful things. He and his friends wrote poetry and music, and this man made quite a substantial living doing so, and many people all over the world believed he was spreading a good, maybe even divine, message. One day this special man said something about how his little band of friends who wrote poetry and music was more popular than Jesus (which, statistically speaking was actually true, apparently). Riots ensued. The man's books and albums were burned, and for time the man and his band were scorned all over the world for what was conceived of as their arrogance and blasphemy. It was ultimately discovered that the man's words had been taken out of context, but that is neither here nor there--the world's reaction to what it thought was the statement itself ("We are more popular than Jesus") gives us our first clue as to what's happening here in the present.
By the way, that man's name was John Lennon. I highly recommend you research that event and read about it. If John Lennon couldn't get away with it...well...you know.
But that's kind of a vague explanation, so I will be more specific.
First, whatever this franklin e-books place is that you've got listed on your profile...it's nothing but an e-book seller. It's not a highly respected or very well known seller of books. If you had some kind of ranking on Amazon.com that would at least mean that you had made decent sales through a reputable seller (but it still would not confer upon you any particular credentials in any subject--that depends on the quality of the book and your ideas).
2. "1,000,000 people bought my book" does not equal "I am an expert; I ought to be respected; or my work is good." Just look at horrible (and even dangerous) books like the ones about the Atkins diet, any of V.C. Andrews' books written from the grave, or any pompous, jargon-filled, too-often-updated and overly expensive textbook forced on students by a university. I'm sure we could think of many more in this category; indeed an atheist might argue that the Bible is the worst offender on this list (another reason in and of itself that your argument for authority is meaningless, at least to one specific portion of this community).
3. A good writer can take genuine criticism, mohit, so I'm going to offer you some right now. The poem you offered here is quite simplistic: there is one single message, clearly stated. The rhyme scheme is, again, simplistic; the rhythm is kind of sing-songy when it's not a little clunky. It doesn't really scan well. You make little use of metaphor or imagery. Instead of showing us what we're destroying, or describing the horrible consequences of our actions...you just tell us: the earth feeds you and waters you; stop messing it up. That doesn't really have much impact.
The good news is you have a clear message and, I assume, a genuine passion for your subject matter. Even Shakespeare had room for improvement.
Finally, and most importantly: Those who are truly enlightened do not feel the need to say it. Their actions speak far louder than their words. Their ideas and teacings stand the test of time and onslaughts of puerile arguments without ever having to say, "But those people like me!" They do not require book sales or library rankings to express their enlightenment, and if they have those things, they do not feel the need to brag about them or assume that such a thing gives them any authority. If you truly believe in a Higher Power, my friend, then you know *that* is the source from whence authority springs.
I hope you can accept this message as it is intended. From one intelligent person to another; from one professional to another. Perhaps even from one friend to another.
From this post forward I will desist from further comments on this situation that might be construed as insulting or negative.
Mo. that's the best advice you have had in a long while, listen to it.
The bible sells 40,000 copies PER DAY, so making yourself a comparison to that particular book is a foolish thing to do.
Learn from Lennon!
How many copies of your eBook have you sold?
1000
5000
10000
20000?
Give us a ballpark figure to assess your claims upon.
Tantrum has posted nearly 12,000 posts on the forums (in seven months) does that make her the best forum poster?
John
No! It doesn't
good point there!
I'm sure he can't disagree on this one !
Hey aqua, she would be in second place, considering I'm over 13,000 in the forums in 3+ months.
Aqua I have repeatedly said it is not a sales ranking if it was I would be the richest man on this planet.
Thank you for being polite.I keep telling everyone god is within them and not only me.I try to inspire man to find god within themselves.
Glass spider I am not here to hurt anyone , I have gained enlightenment and now I share the gods knowledge I have gained in order to help humanity.
All humans who gained enlightenment have said it , I am not the only one to do so.
Even if my work is not ranked by anyone I am still a spiritual poet/philosopher by profession and this is a religious forum.Why should anyone abuse me , if you don't agree fine but why abuse?
It just gets too much when I am honestly trying to answer someones question and get interrupted by someone who doesn't believe in god and religion and get called names.
I know the effort I have taken to put my work together
years of full time meditation and contemplation.
The poets job is to think highly and express himself for the common man, that is difficult to put something complex into simplicity.
Sages from all religions have acknowledged and complimented my work , I dont need to lie to you or anyone.
I show the similarity is the message of the prophets in order to unite all the religions.
even saints have psychological issues...most of them in Christian history suffered with some form of human malaise...that is what the path of enlightenment is all about...overcoming the human to allow the divine to be manifest through us...
oh, the loves and the egos of humanity...that's the rub
Anything of Tennyson, William Blake, Shelley and other great poets, would be 10000000 times better than your poem
How can you be so arrogant ?
With your words you're ranking yourself above great poets.
Can't you see that ?
are you so blind???
Much better than them.Why are you mentioning their names they are spiritual poets and you don't believe in god.
Please show me where they are ranked with the Bible.
Why are you always so abusive?
As long as you have faith in some sort of thread of energy that unifies everything then it shouldn’t matter what you call it. God, aliens, Shiva, Buddha or whatever! But with all religions, you really need to have an open mind to explore all options of creation…
What religion is hiding from people is that, true power, love, and knowledge, comes from within..Not from an idol.
Having faith, and certainty within your own heart, soul, and mind, that's true power.
This is exactly what religions teach.
"the kingdom of god is within" "I tell you yo are all god " Jesus
"Be still and know you are god" "God exists within every human" Hindu philosopy
The sufi mystics can merge with god
The idol is a representation of what is possible for every human.That human has achieved god hood and so can you.
I watched Survivor last night. The challenge was that they had to pull out these ropes from underneath a big pile of coconuts, which were held up in a basket type way by the ropes. They had to pull out the ropes and try drop the least amount of coconuts as possible. The team that dropped the least amount of coconuts wins.
One team were highly religious, and were praying. They were doing really well at the start, and they claimed that god was looking after them, and helping them win. They lost in the end, and the other team got a feast and pillows, and the religious team got nothing..
I thought it was really funny that the religious team had faith that god was going to help them win the coconut challenge. I'm not saying i do or don't believe in god..But i certainly think that if he does exist, he's got better things to worry about than falling coconuts!! LOL
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