How can anyone read Mt 24: 37-44 and Lk 17: 26-36 and believe in a rapture of th

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   celafoeposted 9 years ago

   How can anyone read Mt 24: 37-44 and Lk 17: 26-36 and believe in a rapture of the saints.
   
   Both of these scriptures CLEARLY say as in the days of Noah and Lk even adds Lot.   BOTH of these situations it was the UNRIGHTEOUS that were removed from the earth and the Righteous were kept safe ON THE EARTH as will be done after the judgement.       Yet people believe THE LIE THAT APOSTATE CHURCH TELLS THEM THAT is directly opposite of what it says.   WHY?

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   chevyssbowtieposted 9 years ago

   Noah was removed FROM the earth while judgement was ON the earth. The water lifted them up away from the earth.
   The type is God removing the saints from the earth while judgement is on the earth, then we will return to the earth with Him.
   
   Lot went out of the city before judgement fell, in fact the Lord wouldn't send the judgement until Lot got out of the city, since Lot lingered Gods Angels had  to take him out of the city.
   Bottom line is, God removed His people from the area of judgement.

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      celafoeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely not he was on the water on the earth.    He never left the earth and he inherited the earth when he returned          Lot was walking on the land.   You have bought the lie.      Look at Goshen, God protected them , no move

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      chevyssbowtieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It is a type, not literal. The point was God had His people removed out of the way of His wrath, When the wrath of God falls there will be no place on earth for His saints to be so He is going to take us out first!
      And no the rapture is not a lie.

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      celafoeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Wow   apparently your god is much weaker than my God who protects His people in the midst of the trouble.   Neither the isrealites in Goshen,  lot in the very midst ,his wife being killed near him have meaning?  Noah inherited the earth as shall we

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      chevyssbowtieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Actually my God is more merciful than your god He will take us out of the way before He pours out His wrath on the earth. In fact "He hath delivered us from the wrath to come" 1 Thes.1:10 how by 1 Thes. 4:16-18. Enjoy your stay in the tribulation.

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      Rich kelleyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Everyone forgets Egypt, I wouldn't, the blood on the door of our heart will save us from anything that is to come just like those in Egypt.  Follow the instructions and "fear not". Afraid of God's wrath, better apply the blood of Jesus to your life.

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      chevyssbowtieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The catching away of the Bride of Christ is the Churches final and ultimate deliverance where we shall ever be with the Lord. And the wrath that will be on earth during the trib will be far worse than at any other time in the history of the world.

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      celafoeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Chevy - apostate church doctrine.  NOT WHAT SCRIPTURE REALLY SAYS.   RAPTURE DOCTRINE IS NE 1700'S

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      chevyssbowtieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Really?, what does 1 Thes. 4:16-18 mean then? Are we the Church not going to go out to meet Jesus in the clouds in the air?

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      celafoeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Chevy - ve 17 is talking about the end for judgemment and says we who remain (onthe earth) , if God's people were removed when do they return, only the dead and those remaing are covered here ,  see ge n 1:8  heaven is between earth surface & wat

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       chevyssbowtieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       We return in Rev.19 with Jesus at the 2nd coming.
       The dead IN Christ and we which are alive and remain in Christ on earth are caught up together in the clouds in the air.

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       celafoeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Chevy - Rev 20:5 says these were some of the dead in Christ, the fathful.

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       chevyssbowtieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Rev. 20:5 says nothing at all about the dead in Christ.

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       celafoeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Chevy -   try readi g it in the interlinear.  And read all of ch 29 and 30 for context  context context    it does say that

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       chevyssbowtieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Why is the comments so limited I can only squeeze so much in here

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       celafoeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       chevy    i know it bugs me too

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   graceinusposted 9 years ago

   celafoe- Another great question and here's my answer.
   
   Mt 24.37-44 and Lk 17.26-36 has nothing to do with the so called "rapture" of the saints. This is false teaching of the churches.
   
   . These two books and verses you mention explains when the end come is dependent on man, not God. God will destroy the earth. But when He does it depends on the completion of a task God has given to man. And I will explain. God could not destroy the earth with water until Noah completed the ark, filled it and sealed him and has family inside. In other words God was waiting on Noah to finish the task that He had given to Noah.This same situation applied to Lot and his family. God could not destroy the cities until the task of Lot and his family being removed or moved out of the city was completed. So the task for Lot and his family was to leave the city. The same rule applies to the end time event of Christ secound coming. Before the end of this age man has a task from God which needs to be completed before God will end this world as we know it. The task given to us to be competed is described in Matthew 24:14 (NKJV) which states: "And this gospel of the KINGDOM will BE PREACHED in all the world as a witness to ALL the nations, and THEN THE END WILL COME."
   
   Just like Noah and Lot had tasks , we have a task that needs to be completed. Once "GOD" has determined that our task of spreading the gospel of the Kingdom to all nations is complete (which means God is waiting on us) then we can count on Christ's secound coming, but only God knows WHEN that will be.
   
   Just as we must understand verses in it's context, the same rule applies to entire chapters.
   
   Great question and God bless

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