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What is the source of Buddha making prophecy of MAITREYA?

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    paarsurreyposted 7 years ago

    http://hubpages.com/forum/post/reply/941680



    Hi friends

    As our friend Enlydia Listener has mentioned; what is the source of Buddha making prophecy of MAITREYA?
    Anybody may please make us wise with explaining it.

    Thanks

    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      This claim is false, nowhere in the Tipitaka (in its original Pali) is the passage that was claimed to prophesize the coming of Jesus mentioned.  Any Buddhist scholar will agree.  The claim was made of an English translation of the Tipitaka, which was obviously tampered with for the following reasons:

      1. The style in the claimed passage is different of the style of the entire Tipitaka

      2. Nowhere in the Tipitaka is Buddha referred to as "the Buddha," but in this Jesus prophesying passage, it was mentioned more than once

      3. There are no equivalent words in Pali for words such as sin or burnt offering as these were not practice in India during the Buddha's time yet these words exist in the claimed Jesus prophesying passage

      4. The claimed passage makes mention of prayer which is not practiced in Buddhism

      The conclusion drawn by every Pali and Buddhist scholar I've ever read agrees that this false

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        paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hi friend crmhaske

        I did not have the opportunity to read Tipitaka. My interest in a book is only:

        1.    If it is authored by the Creator- God Allah YHWH (of course any good name of the Creator in any human language) or

        2.    Written by a truthful Messenger Prophet of the Creator; belonging to any nation of the world.

        3.    Dictated to an authorized person by the Prophet Messenger himself.

        4.    Written by any person authorized explicitly by a Prophet Messenger.

        How would you describe “Tipitaka” to which category of the above it pertains?

        Thanks

        I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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          crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Then you must not read very much.

          I'm sorry, but I'm not going to explain a book to you that you refuse to read.

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            paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Hi friend crmhaske

            I don't refuse to read a book; please don't get me wrong; I have expressed my priority of interest only. When somebody presented me a Catholic Bible; I thanked him and started reading it with great interest and I was almost reading it whenver I found some time; my famil thought perhaps I have become a Christian; I finished reading it in almost three years.

            I just want to know as to what kind of book it is. If it is only a book of wisdom?

            Thanks

            I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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              crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              The Tipitaka is more popularly known as the Pali Canon.  It is in the Pali language (though there are English translated), and is the oldest surviving Buddhist Canon.  It is widely accepted by Theravada Buddhists to be the truest to Buddha's teachings.  As Buddha is not a divine being, nor do Theravada Buddhists believe him to be one, it is a book of wisdom.

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                paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Hi friend crmhaske

                So what was the source of Buddha's wisdom?

                Are the words of the book; exactly spoken by Buddha?

                If yes; how it has come down to us secured from the interference of people other than Buddha?

                Sorry for the questions; I have found a first Buddhist who is so expressive; others don't reply or very slow to respond. I once wanted to become member of a Buddhist discussion forum situated in Africa maybe in Kenya belonging to a very learned  Buddhist scholar there, I forget his name. They refused to register me as a member.

                Thanks

                I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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                  crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  I'll be honest paarsurrey, you don't always appear to be so willing to learn, but instead are most interested in touting what you demand is true.  If you are honestly will to learn, I am happy to enlighten you about Buddhism.

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                    paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    I am already learning; not Buddhism; but truth in things with reason; not blindly. If you or anybody else have got the truth; you are welcome to present. I am a good listener.

                    Thanks

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                    paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Hi friend crmhaske

                    I am interested in Buddha; not so in Buddhism. Please enlighten me with the Revelation Buddha got or what he wrote himself. If Buddha knew reading and writing; why the Buddhists could not preserve or secure his writings? I think it is certainly failing of the Buddhists; and not of the Buddha.

                    Thanks

                    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      The Buddha is considered as a Vishnu AVatar like Rama, Krishna ,Jesus and now he will appear again as Maetriya.
      He will be born into a Brahmin family will write and unite the religions.

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        crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        The Buddha is many different things to many different people depending on where you are coming from with your views.  Many Hindu's do indeed believe that he was a Vishnu avatar.

        As a Buddhist that does not believe in personal Gods, Buddha was a person and nothing more.  Today he, and his teachings, act as a spiritual guide.  This view is shared by all Theravada Buddhists.

        I'd like to make a note that Buddha believed that once a Arhat achieved enlightenment, they no longer continued to exist as a separate entity, and he denied the Indian caste system and the Brahmin authority.  In that sense, it is impossible for Buddha to be born again as anything, he no longer is.

        "But what about the Arhat, the holy one who has extinguished all such desire; does such a one continue to exist?  When a wandering ascetic put this question, the Buddha siad:

        "The word reborn does not apply to him"
        "Then is he not reborn?"
        "The term not-reborn doe not apply to him"
        "To each and all of my questions, Gotama, you ahve replied in the negative.  I am at a loss and bewildered."
        "You ought to be at a loss and bewildered, Vaccha.  For this doctrine is profound, recondite, hard to comprehend, rare, excellent, beyond dialectic, subtle, only to be understood by the wise.  Let me therefore question you.  If there were a fire blazing in front of you, would you know it?"
        "Yes, Gotama."
        "If the fire went out, would you know it had gone out?"
        "Yes."
        "If now you were asked in what direction the fire had gone, whether to east, west, north, or south, could you give me an answer?"
        "The question is not rightly put, Gotama."

        Whereupon the Buddha brought the discussion to a close by pointing out that "in just the same way" the ascetic had not rightly put his questions.  "Feelings, perceptions, forces, consciousness - everything by which the Arhat might be denoted has passed away for him.  Profound, measureless, unfathomable, is the Arhat even as the mighty ocean; reborn does not apploy to him nor not-reborn, nor any combination of such terms"

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          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Buddha stands both for the person as well as the supreme state of oneness with god.

          True that an enlightened one breaks the cycle of birth and death  but the avatar of Vishnu keeps appearing when the world is in a mess to correct the situation.This is when the Buddha will volantarily return.

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            crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            This is where we are at an impasse, I respect your belief, but do not share it.

            For me Buddha is not, and never was a God, nor is he returning.  As a separate entity he no longer exists, there is nothing of Buddha to return.

            However, I just had a thought.  If you use Buddha as a metaphor, and do not insist the same Buddha that existed before is returning then I might possibly offer a parallel.  Perhaps, some day in the future, when we are once again on the brink of destroying entirely our own kind, another equally intelligent and empathic person will realize truths about human nature, and once again save us from ourselves.  I will give you that this future person could be said to be Buddha-like, but that is where my concurrence ends.  That future person is not Gotama Buddha himself, for Gotama is gone forever - though the essence of who he was can live on in the people he inspired.

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              mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I like the way you write. According to Hindu philosophy Vishnu manifests in various forms from time to time to correct the situation.
              The essence being the same the form varies.
              Buddha, Rama, Jesus ,Krishna were all condidered as Vishnu Avatars.

              Buddha gained enlightenment or merged with the Light the source and understood his essence to be god the Light.

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                crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Thank you smile, I like that we've been able to have this conversation without getting angry at each other lol

                Ok, now we are on the same page!  It would not be Buddha that would be returning, it would be Vishnu as man!  I can't argue with that.  As I don't believe in gods or Gods I don't see it as such, but I understand what you are staying now smile

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                  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Thank you ,its been a pleasure  smile

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            paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Hi friends

            Buddha in fact has returned in the symbolic form of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908- the Promised Messiah Imam Mahdi.

            Thanks

            I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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              andromidaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Perhaps, and only a single person of the world knows about it-paarsurrey smile

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                paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Hi friend andromida

                First it always a single man. When the Creator- God Allah YHWH told Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908; then he was alone; and he needed noone else axcept the Creator who told him. Now in millions.

                Thanks

                I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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        paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hi friend mohitmisra

        Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 has written more than eighty books; regarding uniting the religions please read his book "Message of Peace": http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Me … -Peace.pdf

        Thanks

        I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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          mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          A messenger no doubt but the prophet is expected now in the beginning of the age of Aquarius. smile

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            paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Please elaborat it further for me.

            Thanks

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              mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              This is supposedly the end of Kali Yuga and the prophet will appear now and herald in the New Age of truth .

              Then again the number of books one writes is not very important.

              Muhammad was instrumental in putting one book the Holy Quran together.

              Sage Vyasa the Holy Bhagwat Gita

              Valmiki the Holy Ramayana.

              A quality like the above masterpieces takes more energy than many other books put together.

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                paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Hi friend mohitmisra

                I agree with you. I read Gita; I was overwhelmed by it. I love Krishna as I love Zoroaster, Buddha and Socrates.

                Thanks

                I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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                  mohitmisraposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Nice approach towards truth. smile

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                    paarsurreyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Thanks and regards

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      Hokeyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It never happened.

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    Greek Oneposted 7 years ago

    Dearest Paarsurrey

    The other day you shared with us a link concerning the supposed life of Jesus in India.

    I invite you to return to that link.  Go in particular to the Buddhist section of that SAME exact site: http://www.harisingh.com/newsBuddhism.htm

    There you will find an embedded link on the "Siddhartha Gautama".  When you click that link, you will find it is written that "at the age of twenty-nine, he left his kingdom and newborn son to lead an ascetic life and determine a way to relieve universal suffering."

    This is from a website source given to us by none other than yourself, just the other day, so I am sure it is credible in your eyes.

    Glad I could share this knowledge with you!

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      crmhaskeposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you!  It didn't occur to me to bounce his own link back at him.

 
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