I am actually like Graceful Guardian. I honestly believe that we are made up of the same things made out in space.
I picture the telescopes that take pictures in space, more like microscopes. Everything about us seems to be the make up of everything we can see in space.
A microscopic picture of an atom in our body or else where really looks and acts no different from space particles, dust or elements etc. soo.....whatever exist out there exist completely in us as well.
and as tarded as it sounds, I really think that whatever we do whether in our minds, souls, hearts or see with our eyes is being painted, so to speak, in the Heavens.
Well here is what I think.
It is said that we are made in Gods image,and we are filled with tiny little structures ,that look like solar systems.Take our Galaxy for instance,everything rotates around the sun like particles around an atom.When you place them together with other structures they kind of form shapes,like the eagle galaxy as an example.
Well I know that the dna structure is on the tablets of creation,they had probably used it in some way,they obviously thought it important enough to put it on their tablets.Sorry about leaving after posting,my youngest is only one and doesn't give me much time to do other stuff.
Sorry back to just write this,they said we will be judged and everyone found in the book of life.If we are judged by this it will have some tremendous effects.Here is a news article.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/sci_t … 946419.stm
And if it can save it can also kill.
As scientists continue to unravel the marvels of God's creation, like DNA strands, genomes, etc., we learn more and more about how amazing God's vision for human beings really was/is. I remember when our daughters were newborns and how we were amazed that at just about the right time, they developed the ability to roll over, self-comfort, sit up, walk, etc. Each perfect little toenail, tiny yawns and tiny steps in their growth and development reminded us of the miracle of creation they represented. The intricacies of DNA are even more amazing.
It has been scientifically established that human beings share approximately 98% of their DNA with chimpanzees.
How do you reconcile this with the belief that man is made in God's image?
Or, more pessimistic view, those 2% constitute Gods image. You don't need more to show off the image
Did he, perhaps, just "run out" of DNA when it came to humans?
maybe we are only 2% god. lol. 98% chimp.
I wonder which 2% it is ....
how dare I go here, but the "genitals" and the nose. OMG, stop me or I will go to Hell. muaahhahahahha.
It's all the more remarkable that God can take an animal and craft it into a human made in His image.
And only utilising 2% more DNA, too .....
A true miracle!
How are you, Thom?
I am fine, thank you.
How are you and your lovely wife?
Are you parents yet?
In a manner of speaking we are...we have 2 pets, but our daughter is due in July.
We are getting excited.
LOL Sandy, you definitely got a whole lot more saucy lately
Or should it be saucier?
OK, here is what I believe at this point in time.
Every atom (and whatever the smallest element of matter is) has at its "spiritual" core a spark of Energy of God (also called prana, chi, etc...) If you can see God as a giant flame of which all that is made is made of, then each atom is endowed with that spark of God/ Energy.
So DNA is God, of God, as are all things of matter elements and more we cannot see or know about. Hence, the "image" of God.
Hey Jewel! Have you ever studied the Diamond Sutra? I think you would really love it.
I have down loaded a couple of versions of it...and will check it out. thanks
wouldn't it be great if all we had to do was OMMM all day long and beg for food one meal a day!?
I don't think too many people would appreciate us...let alone understand.
actually I would rather apply my energy to helping people in practical ways now that I don't have children around that I have to care for day to day. so I am trying to do that in new and differnt ways.
oops are we on topic...maddie might come and shut us down !
How about this?:
God is a three letter word we made up to soothe ourselves and project our problems onto others.
Why worship God when you can create God?
With quantum computers there is an estimate that by the year 2013 we will have a computer with more computational power than the human brain and also by the year 2053 we will have a computer with more computational power than the entire human race combined.
Computers are tools, quantum computers are no exception to this rule.
I find it to be intersting to think of what we will use them for, and hopefully we will use them for peaceful agendas that do not implement them for violence or the self fulfilling prophecy of religious psychological dualism which ultimately (in my opnion) leads to violence due to cognitive dissonance.
I seriously think at this point in history we need quantum telportation so that we can start colonizing other planets by punting ourselves around the known galaxy.
Unfortunately what Voltaire said:
If there were no God, it would have been necessary to invent him.
Reflects a real psychological reality, which in my opinion we as humans would be wise to steer clear of when it comes to quantum computers which perhaps might be used to map our DNA in order for a teleportation sequence to be successfully completed (given an energy source that would make such a thing viable).
In my opinion that which comprises the basic energy mechanisms of Calabri Yau space (according to String Theory), might be far less complex than we imagine it to be in the form of our "god(s)".
OK Zarm, now you have to tell me what in the world quantum computers are?
Hypothetical at the moment:
Umm, looks like my brains are too old for this Thanks Mark anyway...
You just need to convert to sci-fi, the only TRUE religion, then you would know all about quantum computers and parallel universes. it's all there if you just open your heart to the truth
This is not sci fi:
"In quantum cryptography, Zeilinger’s group is developing a prototype in collaboration with industry. While most of the community was working on the much easier scheme of using weak laser pulses, Zeilinger based his approach exclusively on the more demanding scheme using entangled photons. A recent proof that entanglement is a necessary condition for the security of the quantum channel confirms that this choice is correct.
Zeilinger’s experiments on the distribution of entanglement over large distances began with both free-space and fiber-based quantum communication and teleportation between laboratories located on the different sides of the river Danube. This was then extended to larger distances across the city of Vienna and most recently over 144 km between two Canary Islands, resulting in a successful demonstration that quantum communication with satellites is feasible. His dream was to bounce entangled light off of satellites in orbit. This was achieved during an experiment at the Italian Matera Laser Ranging Observatory."
Eventually I hope to work with people such as this man and in a field such as his.
Nothing science fiction about what he does, even if I am optimistically speculating about some of it.
btw lol @ picture
This guy might have a sci fi feel to him but he is a very accomplished theoretical physicist who envisions a future of bold possibilities:
"Kaku is the author of several scholarly Ph.D. level textbooks on string theory and quantum field theory and has had more than 70 articles published in journals covering topics superstring theory, supergravity supersymmetry, and hadronic physics. He is also author of the popular science books, Visions, Hyperspace, and Parallel Worlds, and co-authored Beyond Einstein with Jennifer Thompson. Hyperspace was a best-seller and was voted one of the best science books of the year by both the New York Times and the Washington Post. Parallel Worlds was a finalist for the Samuel Johnson Prize for non-fiction in the UK.
His latest book, Physics of the Impossible, examines the technologies of invisibility, teleportation, telepathy, star ships, anti-matter engines, time travel, all regarded as things that are not possible today but that might be possible in the future. In this book, he ranks these subjects according to when, if ever, these technologies might become reality. In March, Physics of the Impossible hit the New York Times Best-seller list."
He is 99% speculation and 1% legit (I like to say that just for effect ).
Btw Leonardo DaVinci conceived of a helicopter to the tune of some 400+ odd years before its existance
"As an engineer, Leonardo conceived ideas vastly ahead of his own time, conceptualising a helicopter, a tank, concentrated solar power, a calculator, and the double hull, and outlining a rudimentary theory of plate tectonics. Relatively few of his designs were constructed or even feasible during his lifetime,[c] but some of his smaller inventions, such as an automated bobbin winder and a machine for testing the tensile strength of wire, entered the world of manufacturing unheralded.[d] As a scientist, he greatly advanced the state of knowledge in the fields of anatomy, civil engineering, optics, and hydrodynamics"
These are all people from whom I draw inspiration and whose life inspires me in my own humble endeavor to understand things and be creative.
LOL all that does not explain a bit about what quantum computers are.
You know, I deal with computers for more than 20 years, and pretty much understand how bits work and how they are implemented.
For the life of me, I can't understand this about those qua-qua bites reading this wikipedia article... And Leonardo da Vinci's helicopter is not of a big help here either
excerpt from page 2:
A read-write device reads these symbols and blanks, which gives the machine its instructions to perform a certain program. Does this sound familiar? Well, in a quantum Turing machine, the difference is that the tape exists in a quantum state, as does the read-write head. This means that the symbols on the tape can be either 0 or 1 or a superposition of 0 and 1; in other words the symbols are both 0 and 1 (and all points in between) at the same time. While a normal Turing machine can only perform one calculation at a time, a
quantum Turing machine can perform many calculations at once.
"Today's computers, like a Turing machine, work by manipulating bits that exist in one of two states: a 0 or a 1. Quantum computers aren't limited to two states; they encode information as quantum bits, or qubits, which can exist in superposition. Qubits represent atoms, ions, photons or electrons and their respective control devices that are working together to act as computer memory and a processor. Because a quantum computer can contain these multiple states simultaneously, it has the potential to be millions of times more powerful than today's most powerful supercomputers."
From page 2 and also:
"This superposition of qubits is what gives quantum computers their inherent parallelism. According to physicist David Deutsch, this parallelism allows a quantum computer to work on a million computations at once, while your desktop PC works on one. A 30-qubit quantum computer would equal the processing power of a conventional computer that could run at 10 teraflops (trillions of floating-point operations per second). Today's typical desktop computers run at speeds measured in gigaflops (billions of floating-point operations per second)."
From page 2.
Hope that explains
Oh, yeh oops!
I will oneday be studying and learning Quantum Mechanics in college and either end up in cosmology or working directly on quantum teleportation projects.
Hence the interest
Not enough reason to convert I think
If they could explain steelhead trout mystery, then I would have thought about converting
Some mysteries are only available to the initiated
Nope, not really. Both wiki and your link leave out the part of how to match a particular thread or task or whatever you call it to the particular value out of eternity of qubit values. This is the part I think I can't really grasp. Of course it is possible I did not grasp something else and the problem I am thinking about does not exist at all
And all this relates to DNA and God...how??!!
Theoretically, a quantum computer will give us all the names of god. In which case, we have served out purpose and will all move on.
I can't say I fully understand the concept either, but I definitely put it in the realms of science fiction at the moment.
Zarm - Or at least science maybe?
Your right Mark, my take on what is happening concretely in the here and now is more science fiction than science reality at the moment, although it is not theoretically impossible at this point given the current understanding of the laws of quantum mechanics, which by implication <<currently>>makes it theoretically possible. I suppose the reason I romance with such ideas is because I am a theoretical physicist at heart, and if there is anyway to extrapolate given certain data then the harder it is to extrapolate the bigger the challenge involved and the more happiness I get from it. Perhaps I am just a visionary inventor who would like to create a device that made teleportation possible, safe, and effective, as well as energy efficient. I would like to see such a project through to completion even if it is damn near impossible. If after years of college and subsequent conversations, experiments and projects such a thing was found by me to be something that was only conceptually possible then I would have to give up, but our current understanding of quantum mechanics (as I understand the current understanding of quantum mechanics) makes entertaining the idea of a teleportation device and it's construction theoretically feasible albeit very difficult to grasp. Essentially we already have teleportation devices, but they teleport things on a sub atomic level. While it does not follow (necessarily) that such a thing could operate successfully in such a manner as to say 'revolutionize the shipping and recieving industry' or 'revolutionize the transportation industry' it certainly seems like the stars are worth shooting for so to speak. Here are some quotes from one of several articles I have read:
Here is an article by him (and btw he is being seriously considered for a nobel prize atm):
Here are quotes from that article (quotes an in Q and A format):
What are you doing?
Transferring the properties of light particles over certain distances onto other light particles, with no time delay. The procedure is based on phenomena which exist only in the quantum world, and is known as "quantum teleportation.""
It sounds almost as exciting as "beaming".
Yes, but there are two major differences. Firstly, we transfer properties, not matter. And secondly, until now we have had more success with light particles and occasionally with atoms, not with larger objects
Some teams of physicists are already teleporting single atoms. So what really stands in the way of beaming humans?
We are talking about quantum phenomena here – we have no idea how we could produce these with larger objects. And even if it was possible, the problems involved would be huge. Firstly: for physical reasons, the original has to be completely isolated from its environment for the transfer to work. There has to be a total vacuum for it to work. And it is a well-known fact that this is not particularly healthy for human beings. Secondly, you would take all the properties from a person and transfer them onto another. This means producing a being who no longer has any hair colour, no eye colour, nix. A man without qualities! This is not only unethical – it's so crazy that it's impossible to imagine.
"What do think are the limits of teleportation?
Who knows, perhaps in a thousand years we really will be able to teleport a coffee cup. But beware: even the tiniest interference can mean that the cup arrives without its handle. This method of transport would be far too dangerous for humans.
Why is the procedure so sensitive to disturbance?
Because any disturbance – and this goes for a measurement or observation – alters the state of the particles which are involved in the teleportation. The rules of quantum physics are completely different from those of the world we live in. For quantum teleportation we use methods of entanglement. This is a particular state which can connect two or more particles, but which disappears as soon as it is observed from outside.
Entanglement – we should imagine this as...
...there is no way of imagining it. The Austrian physicist Erwin Schrödinger coined the term in 1935 and also said that the twist in the phenomenon of quantum physics is that it forces us to bid farewell to all our dearly held ideas about the world."
The entire article is fascinating and if you are interested (Mark) and have a bit of time, I think you might enjoy the read of it. Zeilinger is a very bright individual and in the interview Zeilinger goes on to describe the philosophical implications of quantum physics.
Zeilinger talks about what einstein called 'spooky action in effect' and it is thoroughly fascinating to me!
Who knows maybe I just find those things amazing and most other people do not, I don't know. I certainly have not met even so much as a physics student yet let alone a professor. I would like to eventually get in this field, and hopefully someday will have the connections to do so, I sure as hell am gunna work hard at getting into the right school when I do study this stuff.
So a quantum computer can use the number 1 as 1 and calculate a letter such as A without having to first do the calculations such as 1111 for a letter, right?
Binary code? Quantum binary codes...
so it is like reading 10 as a single number instead of 1 + 0 + triangle etc. right?
Please tell me I am close.
I don't know simply put.
I was self schooled after the age of 13 and am now 26 just getting into the world again for the first time in 13 years so I am learning new things, and this is one topic I want to get a degree in if I can.
I do not talk out of thin air, it's just I do not have a college education yet.
I am enrolling in an online only computer course from a local community college. Hopefully then, after a while of learning about computers from a programming standpoint (computer programming associates) will I have the knowledge to answer the question in the way you are seeking an answer for it.
Autodidactism is a rather poor substitute for the social sphere imo, yet I do it anyway. lol
Simply put, I do not know the answer to your question.
I do have a conceptual understanding of the topic, but because I lack the college education of most if I tried to explain myself I would only make a fool of myself more than likely, or perhaps I am only afraid that might happen.
Take it easy Zarm, ok?
You are NOT required to have answers to all the questions. You will tell me when you learn it yourself. Or, I tell you, if I learn it before you
And yes, you are only afraid
I would say that unlocking the entire human genome would probabaly aid in the frontier of teleportation. I mean, it would probabaly be a tremedous help to know that after you get zapped from one place to the other that all your molocules are back in the right order so you don't come out looking like a flying speghitti moster. LOL.
I pesonally feel that all the hidden things that science discovers is understanding God to me, though many greatly disagree, but hey just cause I can't see it, doesn't mean it is not there.
Well, I believe that a spiritual path can lead to bi-location. It is a well believed fact that adepts such as Babaji bi-locates in working with his disciples. Also, I believe Jesus was after his crucifixion. In my mind and from my studies, the symbology of Jesus life, death, resurrection and eventual ascension and stories of the "passing" of other adepts of various mystical religions are ways of talking about the phenomonon of bi-location/teleportation.
There is a parallel to every aspect of a spiritual/mystical path with science discoveries. There is a combination of them that is more real than we accept as real now, in our matter/earth bound human mind. We need to develop our higher consciousness/spiritual mind, or the result will not be a whole and balanced manifestation.
That is because science is based on actualities and religion is based on attitudes to those actualities, thus science (imo) is superior because it aims to primarily manipulate obejcts in it's quest for knowledge rather than people.
Of the several points you could have responded to in my above statements, why did you choose that one? I am not stuck in defining spirituality as the dogmas of religion. But your answer seems to be...is that what you mean?
objects are a manifestation of the consciousness of the human mind. consciousness is a manifestation of Spirit/Soul of ultimate Reality...the real Source Energy of all. Until human mind finds/allows that full flow of ultimate consciousness connection with Source...learning to bi-locate in a balanced way of natural occurrence will not be found. But a disconnected imbalanced form of teleportation may.
I think our definitions of reality defer.
I was watching this episode of UFO finders, I think, and these two men who said they had both seen a UFO and were abducted, had thier blood chemistry anylized and low and behold, both of them had an increased amount of (I foget what it was) in thier bodies.
Whatever happened to them changed thier body chemisty. Very intersting. So I do wonder if there really is a God gene, that maybe instead of their chemistry changing they had the gene that somehow connected them to the higher (haha) life form.
Or maybe they were always part of the Alien project and they came back to check on them?
Were all dust, dust, dust!
All the universe can be reduced to dust particles. So its dust thats the key here in its many complex forms.
I'm not a god believer, were all organically formed from the planet.
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