Ghost or Spirit
More imaginary concepts, Kimberly. You can't define what doesn't exist.
Exactly, but the problem arises when the gullible begin attaching fairy tale conclusions to the unexplained. This is the essence of the closed mind.
It has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with being gullible pretending those things exist.
No, there are no documented cases, there are thousands of empty claims. Do you believe because you want to be popular?
Uh, my aunt would be dead, so it would have to be a dream. Again, this has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with the gullible believing in these things.
And there we have it, the need to believe in those things as opposed to what is real and what isn't. You want to believe in them and that is the bottom line.
Yeah, sure you have.
I wouldn't call it a joke. It isn't funny when the gullible are so entrenched in their fantasies that they are unable to think.
Uh no, it's all hogwash.
There is no fear attached to this, no matter how much you want to come with excuses and strawmen arguments that do not support your argument.
I seriously doubt I'm going to waste my time looking into that nonsense at any great length. I understand they violate physical laws and haven't a shred of evidence for support. They are just empty claims of the gullible.
Of course not, no one does. What the gullible refuse to acknowledge or even realize is that there are hits and misses to "predicting" the future. They focus entirely on the hits and ignore the misses.
Sorry, but the reality of the world with it's mountains of sustainable and consistent evidence of the physical laws supersedes anything I want to believe and what you want to believe. That kind of faith is blind to reality.
Thank you. I believe so, but that they are only different by means one has set self limitations by remaining earth bound. The other is able to go to the spirit world. Some spirit beings are able to come back and forth from the earth plane level to the spirit world freely. Ghosts don't do that.
That is true that the gullible consider any rational discussion, blather. That's one of the reasons they believe what they believe.
I understand anything that violates physical laws without a shred of evidence is bunkum.
Yes, I understand that you are prepared to believe in one thing and not another, despite the fact that both violate physical laws.
No, you have no proof. No one does.
That isn't true and you know it.
Who knows? Here maybe?
I'm sorry that you feel the need to fabricate those things in an attempt to support your argument. And, if you can't point out exactly where I've personally attacked someone, I think you should provide an apology.I'm not angry at all.
But, it does seem like Nick B is upset about something, is trying to censor me and claims I'm personally attacking others.
Did I call someone fat, or stupid or some other personal insult? Show me where I did that and I'd be happy to retract it and apologize. No problem.
Sorry, but that is not "scientifically speaking" considering scientists have never found evidence for "emotional energy long since passed"
Ahh, you fail.
It's okay, it'll be explained to you in the future. Look around, my friend.
It has been scientifically explained.No, I'm not going off without explanation.
Here's a question: Why do police sometimes hire psychics?
Why did/do military around the world train psychic spies?
And since this is obviously successful in certain situations, more than just a matter of coincidence, what is it if it's not scientifically proven, then?
Unfortunately, science is still a product of man. So some men have imagination that leads them to understand the whole nature of the omniverse better.
Others are stuck down in three dimensions.That's not an explanation, that's a strawman argument. Military training psychic spies? LOL! Good one.
Sorry, it has not been shown to be successful. You'll find ample statistics and studies revealing psychics were either useless, a detriment or not used at all.
"The purpose of this study was to examine the use of psychics by criminal justice agencies in the state of Oklahoma. Not surprisingly, responses from 49 agencies suggest that vast majority of respondents had never used a psychic in any investigation. Among those agencies that HAD used a psychic, most had found the information unhelpful and less accurate than other sources. "
http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_a … index.html
Will those be your closing statements to your argument? I still see no explanation.No problem.
"Professor Richard Wiseman, a psychologist at the University of Hertfordshire and a fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry (CSI) has said that he agrees remote viewing has been proven using the normal standards of science, but that the bar of evidence needs to be much higher for outlandish claims that will revolutionize the world, and thus he remains unconvinced:[30]
"I agree that by the standards of any other area of science that remote viewing is proven, but begs the question: do we need higher standards of evidence when we study the paranormal? I think we do. (...) if I said that a UFO had just landed, you'd probably want a lot more evidence. Because remote viewing is such an outlandish claim that will revolutionize [sic] the world, we need overwhelming evidence before we draw any conclusions. Right now we don't have that evidence." Richard Wiseman Daily Mail, January 28, 2008, pp 28–29 [30]"
(Wikipedia)
See, we're going to run into a loop here. And this is okay.
Thank you for polite discourse.
While many refer to these subjects as psuedoscience, the research has been carried throughout the years by Germans, Soviets, Americans, and beyond. It's also doing well being trained to others in a private-ran business sort-of-way.
While you state psychics are often fraudulent or of no use, the fact remains psychics have been used numerous times by police and the information contained therein did indeed help the case, often in a profound way.
In relation to the CRV manual, and the military debunking the practice as piffle.....think of it this way: if you were China and knew that we could walk through your walls with pretty decent accuracy over time, what would you think?
While I can't say I've positive proof, there are some Drug War arrests, for example, I need to find again....they have been cited as being the product of remote viewed intelligence.
At any rate, I s'pose this is a topic that you and I are going to have to agree to disagree on; I'm a bit biased for I dabble in this sort of stuff as a hobby.
So I guess I'll save my best evidence for the day when I e-mail and ask permission to remote view a location of your choosing.
Everything in this world is collapsible waves of probability.
The cat is neither dead nor alive, until you decide how you wish to understand reality.
But enough of my psuedophilosophical mutterings.
I'm working on a rather large YT upload, so I need to conserve bandwidth. Hopefully we'll discuss this in depth more later.
Namaste.I don't agree that remote viewing has been proven at all, by him or anyone else. In fact, his Twitter remote viewing experiment was not an experiment conducted using the scientific method and led to erroneous conclusions. He claimed his experiment harnessed "the wisdom of crowds" when there wasn't any information to process and aggregate. I think this guy is somewhat of a fraud based on this rather clueless experiment.
Research that has led to nothing. Whatever training is being provided in private run businesses is pure bunkum, fleecing the gullible.
Yet, the statistics and reports from police departments say otherwise. Those are the facts.
Walking through walls? You can't be serious.
Not likely. But, you're free to produce them here.
Sure, have a look in my house and tell me what you see? If I've already posted something here, that wouldn't count. Feel free to remote view.
I'm not sure what that has to do with the claims of the paranormal, but perhaps you'll help me understand.
I couldn't agree with you more, that everyone is entitled to their opinions, despite the fact their opinions may very well change the universe from what it is to what they want it to be.
- DoorMattnomoreposted 14 years ago
0The same goes with any media, my dear.
Pictures, video, news, radio...in this day and age, where all it takes is a few mouse clicks to dramatically alter any captured reality, the truth is getting grayer everyday.
you forgot crazy.
You know what you have lived, and its frustrating to have people who haven't seen anything unexplainable, say that since they didn't see it..it isn't real.
Remember how the world used to be flat?Ohh! I remember when the earth was flat. Damn, I lost so many balls....they rolled off into oblivion.
Anyway, I did get a bit curt with Beelzedad, but it's best to deflect an onslaught of accusation.
Or try to prove your point.
He may be back, or maybe he gave up.
And besides, what do I know anyway?
I'm just a time traveling alien.
Gullible is not a personal insult. It means easily deceived or tricked which is the correct term used for those who believe in such things.
No, I didn't, that is what I asked of Kimberley for clarification when she mentioned it. Please read the posts above to see that.
Some do use their irrational beliefs for seeking attention, I have no idea if you do or not. It is irrelevant to this argument. Your personal experiences could be explained with any one of many alternative terrestrial explanations that you don't seem to have included but instead jumped to conclusion of the paranormal, just like a gullible person would do.
- Surabhi Kauraposted 14 years ago0
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