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Angels and other strangers

  1. A.Villarasa profile image77
    A.Villarasaposted 7 years ago

    The adage that angels are our guiding light has to me become less tenuous indeed. Angels, being creatures of the ether, could be preceived to affect our lives only in so far as they make themselves manifest in some form or the other that neither surprises nor perplexes. The laws of physics notwithstanding, these heavenly sentries do not seem to mind being pulled this way or that way, in ways less forceful than the slightest tug to their pure-white sleeves. However we might wish that these  "light of our lives" never return to their ethereal moorings, they could not  possibly illuminate all the nooks and crannies of our everyday existence even if they are able to bend with our most thoughtful wishes.

    1. Beelzedad profile image58
      Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Don't you mean, the laws of physics violated? smile

      1. A.Villarasa profile image77
        A.Villarasaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Of course...that is, if you believe in angels and that they could move and be moved in less mysterious ways than Einstein's  relativity conundrum.

    2. Dave Mathews profile image61
      Dave Mathewsposted 7 years ago in reply to this




      Obviously you need to be enlightened. We are all created in a spiritual form first and foremost. We are assigned by God to a human form, in order to blend in with the other humans already on earth. We have all been assigned certain tasks,duties,objectives, that must be carried out, as well we need to learn as much as we possibly can learn about God our creator, and his expectations, prior to returning to Him in Heaven, when he recalls us. Therefore guardian angels are spirits visiting us to pass on to us, information, and keep watch, because satan is also an angel but evil and can if we are not careful corrupt us as he himself is corrupted.

      1. A.Villarasa profile image77
        A.Villarasaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hello Dave:
        Thank you for posting your comments. I must admit that I need some enlightening on some issues (Obama's leftist ideology comes to mind), but on this one I will have to disagree. I do agree with what you are saying about angels, but your statement "We have all been assigned certain tasks, duties, objectives that must be carried out...." riled me no end. You see I believe in free will and your proposal that God created robots and not human beings capable of  unique, specific, and soporific ideas, ideals and ideologies, chilled my bone to the core.

        1. LeslieAdrienne profile image82
          LeslieAdrienneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          A.Villarasa,

          I don't think he meant it that way. What I think he is saying is that, God has a plan for our lives but, we choose to follow His plan or not. There is no coercion but a simple choice....smile

          1. earnestshub profile image89
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Yes, here is the simple choice from the bible.

              If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.   (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)



            Now there is a choice for you! lol lol lol

            1. LeslieAdrienne profile image82
              LeslieAdrienneposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Hi Ernestshub, - God Bless You-

              I don't see where there is a choice when you are being thrust through...especially if you can't run faster than your daddy can thow a spear....

              1. earnestshub profile image89
                earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                God offers his followers many opportunities to kill murder and rape.
                I know hundreds of them in the bible and quoran.

                Many times the mad sky fairy offers to do the smiting himself. smile

                1. hanging out profile image58
                  hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  You've been told all about this many times yet you still persist. Gods people were killing baby killers and child m%Le#@ers and just horrid awful people who ate people and drank their blood. The worst gods people ever did was eat the animal sacrifice they offered to God.

                  now get over this obsession with what you wrongly perceive as bible cruelty to humans.

                  it was over land and land only. God didn't tell his people to loot for money he wanted them to have the land and rightly so, because the other nations who had gods that told them to steal murder r@pe, destroy had no such limitations. The people you say were horrible were actually the meek and peaceful ones.

                  for the last time i hope.
                  yah, hehe.. god can Smart Bomb a good sized piece of hail.. no problem onto a baby killer... okay... B A B Y     K I L L E R... remember that.

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        Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Brother Dave,

        May I ask you to take note of
        Genesis 2: 7

        and 1Corinthians 15: 45-50?

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    klarawieckposted 7 years ago

    I have heard, however, that they are a little short-staffed in the ethereal plane. Hence you pray and they don't always answer. It's the economy... Darned Bush!

    1. Beelzedad profile image58
      Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      What happened to your other avatar? It was much better.

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        klarawieckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Beely, can't post my own picture because I'm a teacher. I don't want to get fired for saying the wrong thing. You get me? I just posted it for a few days to let you know I wasn't holding a crystal ball. big_smile
        But since you stereotype me anyways, I chose this one - holding tarot cards! LOL
        Hope you are doing well.

        1. Beelzedad profile image58
          Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You stereotype yourself with crystal balls and tarot cards, my dear. smile

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            klarawieckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Beely, I never had a crystal ball in any of my avatars. I had a picture of a naked lady holding a light in her hands... that was not a crystal ball! I uploaded the avatar of the tarot reader because of you, because you upset me so much a while back after making mean remarks about me having a crystal ball. I'm trying... very hard... to be good to you. I would never make a stereotype out of you, and I could, trust me. But I'm not like that. You can throw as many rocks as you want at me, I will continue giving you flowers. wink

            1. hanging out profile image58
              hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              her puppy is cute too

              ribbit

    2. A.Villarasa profile image77
      A.Villarasaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm sorry to  shatter your crystal ball Klara, but it's Obama's bad economy now. Bush has long been gone from his  "crime scene", so to speak, and this current  crime scene is replete with Obama's fingerprints.

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        klarawieckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        His name is not Obama anymore. According to the Gypsies of Spain, he is now Mohamma... lol

        1. earnestshub profile image89
          earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I must be outta touch. smile Can you explain please Klara?

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            klarawieckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Michelle went to Granada and the Spanish gypsies greeted the girls and Michelle in a flamenco cave. Gypsies have a tendency of being "out of touch" with world events and news, and they are funny as hell. This gypsy woman, part of the flamenco dance group that performed for the first lady, didn't really know how to pronounce Obama. She kept on calling her Mohamma...

            She said "Mohamma... bring your husband next time, Mohamma!" lol
            It was all over the news! Really really funny!!! Anyways, Michelle stood up and danced flamenco and all. She left with tears in her eyes and promised to come back with Mohamma!

            1. earnestshub profile image89
              earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Wow! I am out of touch. Haven't seen the news while I've had the flu. Too much imput then!

              That is funny alright! Michelle seems nice from where I sit. smile
              I will look for the story.
              Ain't the Internet grand? smile

              My modem threw a curly yesterday and I lost access for 7 hours.
              I couldn't track down a globe for a headlight or find out opening hours. It's scary without it. smile

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                klarawieckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                My husband just told me if I don't cut short my HP time, he'll divorce me! lol Ouch!!! This is truly addicting!

                1. earnestshub profile image89
                  earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Sign him up under yourself Klara! lol lol lol
                  I work online anyway so I have one screen open on hubpages all day sometimes. smile

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                    klarawieckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    He doesn't do chatting. That's how the two of us met, so I think he's a bit worried! lol

                2. Beelzedad profile image58
                  Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  He must have found out about the Everglades thingy. wink

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                    klarawieckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    lol
                    lol
                    lol

                    He's used to my sense of humour! Plus, that's what he gets for telling me everyday he's going to ship me back to Spain!

    3. hanging out profile image58
      hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      There is always an answer to prayer.... yes, no and not yet.

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Not one single solitary proof of one of billions of prayers answered in the last 2,000 years should clear it all up for you. smile

        1. hanging out profile image58
          hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          hahahahaha.  OMG. LOL. hahahahahahahahahaha You can't be serious! LOL

          lol lol
          lol lol

          hahahahahaha lol hahahaha omg lol hahahahahaha thats so funny. U actually believe what you wrote... hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
          It will be difficult to top that for the day
          hahahahahahhaha.
          not to be offensive
          but
          hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
          I suppose there is no bible either lol
          nor anything called a tree hahahahahaha

          and then to say "should clear it all up for me" (consider the above to copied and pasted again smile  thats so arrogant LOL.

          1. earnestshub profile image89
            earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Does the phrase "Thou protesteth too much" ring a bell?

            Self exposing....  My favourite type of response!

            Your reply says more about you than you would like. .............now if you were able to recognise it. smile

            1. hanging out profile image58
              hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Your reply says more about you than you would like. .............now if you were able to recognise it

              hahahahahaha lol hahahaha omg lol hahahahahaha thats so funny. U actually believe what you wrote... hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
              It will be difficult to top that for the day
              hahahahahahhaha.
              not to be offensive
              but
              hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
              you're not flawed
              nothing wrong with you lol
              God needs to change because you say so.... lol hahahahaha
              thats getting old too... hahahahahaha
              read it for what it is instead of trying to turn it around.

              1. earnestshub profile image89
                earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Thanks, you did it again. smile

                Like I have said before, say what you will you can only say what you are! lol

                1. hanging out profile image58
                  hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  your arguments are so old and so unfounded and so ridiculous and so redundant.
                  what do they say in your precious psychology?
                  admittance is 60% of the cure.
                  and that blaming others for your own mistakes only makes the original mistake bigger.

                  I can't believe you think you have the right to speak for everybody for the last 2000yrs. Your ego must be so very very very large that if you were in the garden they would have to move you out for lack of room.
                  WOTALOTOFROT!!
                  If you ever expected god to answer your prayer nowadays, it would have to be a prayer of repentance. Good luck with that.

                  1. hanging out profile image58
                    hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    AND denial is 100% of the problem

  3. alternate poet profile image63
    alternate poetposted 7 years ago

    There was a British king around 4 or 500 ish who 'retired' and spent years working on the serious problem of how big an angels wing span must be.  Just goes to show that anyone can be a drivelling idiot if they try big_smile

    1. Sweetsusieg profile image82
      Sweetsusiegposted 7 years ago

      Come on folks... don't burst my bubble...  I wanna be an Angel when I grow up! 

      Well I do aspire to be the best person I can while in my earthly form, I just want to be able to help more folks when I leave this shell.  If it takes becoming an Angel then that's what I want to do!

      1. hanging out profile image58
        hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        well bible says, repent and be saved and you shall not perish. Since there is only one god and he created the angels, well ya have to go by the rules.
        Being the best person you can be, without the knowledge of God and without a personal relationship with him is called "salvation by works" and it does not measure up to Gods standards. We cannot earn our way in God has to allow us entry, even after salvation we cannot earn or force or work our way in only by obedience to the promptings of his holy spirit, there's that personal relationship aspect again, can we obtain the promises of God.

        Being an angel isn't so great. They only do what they are told to do and since jesus' visitation they have been pretty much on standby as far as helping people.

        1. Sweetsusieg profile image82
          Sweetsusiegposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          John 14:6   Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

          Yes, I realize this.

          As far as angels go, here are a few things I think may be possible.  You ever get a thought to do something wrong then all of a sudden you change your mind?  Is that an Angel guiding you?

          You ever need something really bad?  The next thing you know someone is giving it to you, without you asking for it.  Couldn't we accept the possibility of God working through Angels?

          Just a thought.

          1. hanging out profile image58
            hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Isaiah 45:7   I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

            Ephesians 4:6   One God and Father of all, who is above all, and THROUGH ALL, and IN you all.

            we could but i'd rather stick to scripture.

            1. Sweetsusieg profile image82
              Sweetsusiegposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              So you are saying that God is never changing?  He is resolute?  That once he has said something it can't change?

              1. Beelzedad profile image58
                Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                If it is the exact opposite of what he said before, that isn't really changing, that's contradiction. smile

              2. hanging out profile image58
                hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                God has changed the dispensation. The first dispensation is what the jews lived under, the flesh. This new dispensation is with jesus christ. The next dispensation will be gods wrath poured out.

                http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dispensation
                Theology .
                a.the divine ordering of the affairs of the world.
                b.an appointment, arrangement, or favor, as by god.
                c.a divinely appointed order or age: the old Mosaic, or Jewish, dispensation; the new gospel, or Christian, dispensation.

                God never changes, he is constant.
                His dispensations do change.

                Beelzedad ? what are you talking about.. can you try to add some more information or am i supposed to guess at what you mean. Sometimes i feel like i am dealing with kids.

                1. Beelzedad profile image58
                  Beelzedadposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  So sorry if you are having reading comprehension problems. smile

                  1. hanging out profile image58
                    hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    so sorry if you are having communication problems

                2. Sweetsusieg profile image82
                  Sweetsusiegposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  hanging out - I dispute nothing from the word of God.  Let's get back to the Angels, what you are saying has nothing to do with my comment.

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                    klarawieckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    Hi Susie,
                    Beelzedad is relentless... and impossible! lol

                  2. hanging out profile image58
                    hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    you'll have to think on it a bit longer.. maybe even pray about it but it does connect exactly.

    2. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago

      In the first case, that was spam, in the second case I reported it. smile

      1. hanging out profile image58
        hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        lol
        I don't think anyone knows what you are talking about here either.

        there's a rat in the soup
        looks good on a resume'

        lol

        1. Dave Barnett profile image55
          Dave Barnettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Angels can be manifested as flesh and bone. Those are the true angels. They help, not hinder. You may be entertaining them, unaware.

          1. Sweetsusieg profile image82
            Sweetsusiegposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thank you Dave for clarifying that, this is what I was referring to, to begin with. 

            I want to be an Angel when I grow up.  As a servant of God whatever he has in mind for me, that will be ok.

            1. hanging out profile image58
              hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Hebrews 13:2   Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
              Nice verse, be not forgetful to entertain strangers, (talking to us) for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. (talking about the OT examples of angel visitations) Of course we know that angels can refer to human emissaries as well.

              unawares perhaps, but a full on sign, a glowy angel visitation that interferes with your faith walk, nope. Angel visitations were allowed in the first dispensation but not in the second.

              God has called us to be sons of god and to no angel has he ever called a son.

              angels are not flesh and blood and neither can be. Show me a scripture that says that. They come in the shape of men, but jesus said feel my hands a spirit hath not flesh and blood as ye see. Angels are spiritual beings and can never manifest in the flesh.

              1. Sweetsusieg profile image82
                Sweetsusiegposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                Scripture is all well and good, but didn't Adam and Eve eat from the tree of forbidden fruit?  Giving each individual their own thoughts?  I have my thoughts and you have yours, each of us gets to interpret the Word in their own fashion. 

                I like my way better.

                1. hanging out profile image58
                  hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Your way is not accurate. Accuracy is tantamount. This is why we have scripture and not so everybody can interpret their own way. This is why the holy spirit of god lives inside us and is called the spirit of truth. Your focus needs to be on submission to god, not trying to be something you scripturally cannot be.

                  but whatever.. i have done my job. You may do as you please, my hands are clean. I sense our discussions are over.

          2. hanging out profile image58
            hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            you people are much to quick to jump to writings that (seem to) clarify what you want to believe instead of searching the scriptures to discover truth or having read the scriptures on a daily basis thereby begining to understand more and more.

        2. Dave Barnett profile image55
          Dave Barnettposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          And rat's in the soup never looks good on a resume. Unless you're in S.E. Asia or China

          1. hanging out profile image58
            hanging outposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            hehehe
            oh the pride lol
            nebuchadnezzar, was forced to eat grass how much different are these people?

     
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