[Vote] Why do we discuss religions?

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   Eng.Mposted 16 years ago

   please post your answer:
   
   to..
   1-search for the truth.
   2- check up my understanding.
   3- defend my attitudes.
   4-attack others.
   5-convert people to what I believe.
   6-know how people think.
   7-other reasons.(name it)

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      Inspirepubposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      1. There is no truth
      2. Full understanding is not possible while incarnated
      3. There is no defence for any attitude
      4. Attack others? How bizarre. What a pointless thing to do.
      5. The belief in "conversion" and the power of any individual to "convert" another is pure hubris
      6. Knowing how people think is always interesting and often amusing
      7. Seems we have consensus that "for fun" should be an option
      8. As a form of spiritual practice

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   SparklingJewelposted 16 years ago

   I think all of the possibilities CAN apply at different times. That is how we learn what we really do think and feel, which enables us to change and to become a better person, as well as closer to our sense of God and being "right" with the Universe.

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      Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      you made a wonderful point here.
      I agree.
      
      it is very important to consider ourselves as imperfect.
      we have to doubt in our intentions all the time to get closer to perfection.
      
      it is not a probelm to discuss religions in the seek of fun.
      fun can accompany everything in life but it should be with respect to other views.
      
      I think it is not a crime trying to affect people if it was really for shemitic purposes.
      this could happen when we really look at ourselves as similar equal humans, with tinny differences, who are sharing this earth.
      we will have the same destiny at the end.
      in my opinion,we have to accept people ideas to let them accept ours.
      
      thanx

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         Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         So, you accept that evolution happened and there was no creator?

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            Mishaposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            Only in return for you accepting that there is no such thing as evolution and Earth was created 6K years back

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               mohitmisraposted 16 years agoin reply to this

               ahhahahaah nice one Misha

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            Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            I accept the idea of discussing this matter but not as a reality.
            
            I accept that some people really believe in no creator idea and I have to understand their point of view bias without enforcing them to my believes.
            
            I may understand how evolution could happen but I may not agree it cold happen without a mind.
            
            some theists tried to build a common ground with evolutionist by accepting evolution possibilities.

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         sandra rinckposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         I agree. 

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            Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            Not understanding here. How can you accept both of these statements:
            
            1, The world was created 6,000 years ago by an all powerful being and the dinosaurs were wiped out in noah's flood.
            
            2, Evolution happened over millions of years.
            
            
            
            

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               sandra rinckposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                 Because it doesn't make a difference whether or not someone believes what I believe that why.  But certainly I wouldn't want someone to not like me for me just because I believe there is only one God, that my God is only my God, and I don't dislike anyone for not believing in my God or God.  Plus, I love all the ideas like I love my own because it speaks volumes more than any book or phrase could say about a person or about life. 
               
               I believe everything!

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                  lol
                  
                  So, you are happy to have a teacher in the school that your children go to teach them that Allah will provide them with 72 virgins in heaven if they die killing infidels?
                  
                  Or that the world was created in 6 days 6,000 years ago and that the dinosaurs were small enough to fit on Noah's ark?

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                     sandra rinckposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                     I may not be happy about it, but being my kids momma, I will certainly educate her better than any other about the treasures of humanity, free thought, non conformity, and the hidden jewels of religions, and how I feel about God.  My kid is very intellegent already, I don't worry about those things, she can believe anything she wants to. 
                     
                     

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                        tranndeeposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                        Here, here. I agree with you on every single point and I raise my kids the same.
                        
                        For such an inflammatory topic, this conversation here has been relatively fair. It's good to talk among even, intelligent people.

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                     Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                     the world wa created in 6 days but not like our days because there was no earth then to make days.
                     there is no prooves that the earth was made 6,000 years ago but fossils let us know that the earth was created beforethis.
                     also, the were no dinosaurs during Noah's life as I think.

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               SparklingJewelposted 16 years agoin reply to this

               Mark, you really find some funny pics...I lke the unscientific american!!

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               Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

               we don't know yet if any of these statements is right.
               so you have to think of all posiibilities and get youself a position.
               that's mean , be biased as mush as you can but with having a reasonable position.

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   If by search for the truth you mean trying to understand how world works, then yes, I am for number 1.
   Also, two number 7s - just for fun, and to put my own thoughts in some order

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   sandra rinckposted 16 years ago

   To find a middle ground...
   because I think it is sooooo important to understand the roots of society. 
   because understanding another persons beliefs shows me the beauty they possess.
   and because, well, it's always the most intersting. 
   
     of course many other reasons, but mostly these ones.

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   mohitmisraposted 16 years ago

   To edify the truth.
   Poet Mohit.K.Misra

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      mohitmisraposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      It also because of a quest for knowledge.,to understand the meaning of life.Who am I and why am I here.

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         mohitmisraposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Masters have left their priceless knowledge in holy books.I get access to them by reading them and become a better human with a better understanding of life.Every master is unique,the essence is the same.
         Poet Mohit.K.Misra

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   Mark Knowlesposted 16 years ago

   1. Not sure there is a truth
   2. No. I have a good understanding of what most people think
   3. Maybe. But only in certain circumstances.
   4. Usually in the form of a rebuttal.
   5. No. Waste of time. Most people have already decided and are not open to that (see OP)
   6. No. There only seem to be about 4 options, and I have heard them all.
   7. To sell ebooks. (see 3rd worst poet in the universe)
   7. For fun also. If you are enlightened (as I am) it is actually funny when you listen to many people's versions of the truth
   
   There cannot be a middle ground, sandra.

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      Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      
      even evolution for you isn't the truth.
      then you are just escaping from any God idea to evolution but you don't understand it or think it is the truth.
      
      
      nobody has.
      
      you seem like defending and not debating and so am I may be.
      
      what about OP?tell me about it? looooooooooooooooooooooooooool
      you are doing like George bush (if you are not completely with me , then you are my enemy)
      
      what is the truth? no truth.you are giving a picture of a worthless world Mark.
      I can accept it if it is the only possibility
      
      
      there is always a middle ground if you want it.

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         Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         All your arguments are a repeat of the same thing - "I believe, therefore this is proof. Therefore everyone else is wrong and there is a god. My god."
         
         There is no god.
         
         You are wrong.
         
         Find the middle ground.

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            Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            you are.

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               Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

               No. You are lol

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                  Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                  then you are the old ground.
                  loooooooooooooooool

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                     Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                     lol No you are

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                        Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                        oh man!
                        you are so adamant.
                        peace. looooooooooooooooool

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   VioletSunposted 16 years ago

   I don't really discuss religion, just observe, but I do discuss spirituality. I would go with # 6: know how people think. The choice of religion pretty much let's me know where they are with their concept of God; its very interesting!   

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   Inspirepubposted 16 years ago

   7. For fun, I think.
   
   And because in doing so I get reconnected with the Divine, whatever that is
   
   Jenny

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   Mark Knowlesposted 16 years ago

   7. Fun.   Plus a few other reasons I will probably continue to discuss religion. They say a picture is worth a thousand words and these are some good reasons for me to continue:
   
   Reason:
   
   
   
   A work of fiction:
   
   
   Creation Museum teaching "Science."
   
   
   Deaths in the bible:
   
   
   
   Faith vs Science:
   
   
   Beliefs on the Origins of Life in the USA:
   
   
   
   Stoning a Muslim woman:
   
   

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      Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      you are right.
      people have been using religions in wrong ways throughout history.
      we have to blame ourselves not our God.
      God has showed you the right and the wrong way and given you a free will to choose your path.
      he created evil to test us.

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         Peter M. Lopezposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         I know which side I want to be on!!!

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            Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            lol That's the best argument yet.
            
            Join or die !

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    Mark Knowlesposted 16 years ago

    lol
    
    I never said I would accept any one else's ideas. I will take them on merit, but......

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    knolyourselfposted 16 years ago

    Or maybe because there is no spirituality or philosphy forums.

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    Mark Knowlesposted 16 years ago

    I have a never-ending supply:
    
    
    
    I can offend just about any one with a carefully placed photo

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    knolyourselfposted 16 years ago

    'we have to blame ourselves not our God.'
    'he created evil to test us.'
    Isn't this something of a contradiction

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       Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       no.
       we blame ourselves because he gave us minds to choose good or evil.
       if there is only good in the world. then everyone will be nice and there will be no testing.

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    knolyourselfposted 16 years ago

    testing for what

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       Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       testing for your choices.

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    knolyourselfposted 16 years ago

    'testing for your choices.', for what

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       Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       for justice

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    knolyourselfposted 16 years ago

    'there will be no testing'
    'testing for your choices.'
    'for justice'
    
    testing is necessary for justice,
    where testing creates the need for justice.

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    RFoxposted 16 years ago

    Why do we discuss religions?
    
    Because we can.

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       Mishaposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       I like this answer the most

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          VioletSunposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          Me too!

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             Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

             thank you for passing just for fun
             looooooooooooooooooooooooool

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       Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       yeah , may be this a good one.
       
       we wanna use our rights, that's all.

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