jump to last post 1-5 of 5 discussions (10 posts)

The Creator-God Allah 'Yahweh' is involved in human affairs

  1. profile image69
    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    Don W wrote @Rishy Rich:

    1. Doesn't matter who's assumption it is. If you use it as the base of a hypothetical argument, your argument needs to be consistent with it.
    2. same as above

    3. The 'Yahweh' of Abrahamic religions is also described as a personal god, i.e. involved in human affairs. That's one of the attributes that distinguishes the Yahweh of Abrahamic religion. Indeed you've adopted that assumption yourself for the sake of your argument. If you want to say no such being exists, fair enough. If you want to say a deity exists but does not have the attributes of the Abrahamic 'Yahweh', fair enough. But you can't hypothesize that Yahweh exists and is not involved in human affairs without changing the definition of 'Yahweh', 'involved', 'human' or 'affairs'. If you do, then by definition, you are not referring to Yahweh of the Abrahamic religions.

    4. Exactly. As such you are hypothesizing that those assumptions are true for the sake of argument. So your argument needs to be consistent with them. If it isn't all you've done is create an inconsistent argument, which demonstrates nothing relevant. 

    5. By that logic people should not discuss anything they consider fallacious, and if they do their motivation must be to hijack the topic. That's self defeating. Clearly you find the concept of god fallacious, yet you are discussing the subject. Therefore (by your own reasoning) you are wasting your time and your motivation is to hijack the subject. If that's the case, then you have relegated your question to nothing more than a trolling exercise. If on the other hand your question has a serious intent, then what you've said is false and you and I are neither wasting our time nor hijacking anything.

    I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with what you are trying to conclude, i.e. a deity doesn't exist. I'm merely pointing out that the argument you are employing does not conform to a basic evaluation of logic. If your argument is that god-belief is inconsistent, fair enough. But presenting that in an argument which is itself logically inconsistent is probably not the best way to go about it.

  2. profile image69
    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    The way the human beings have mishandled the affairs of the world despite their intelligence; the world would have finished long ago; but for the mercy of the Creator-God Allah YHWH it survives.

  3. profile image69
    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    The lives of the Prophets prove that the Creator-God Allah YHWH makes them sucessful against all odds.

    One such example is the life of Muhammad.

  4. profile image69
    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    The Creator-God Allah YHWH has created human beings an intelligent species with a purpose; when people drift away from that purpose and fail to fulfill it, there remains no point for their existence and they deserve to be destroyed.

    In such a situation the Creator-God Allah YHWH out of his mercy sends his Messengers Prophets to bring them back on to the right path to save those who are aligned with the purpose of life.

    Those very natural factors which have been created for the benefit and service of human beings like air, water, fire and earth under commandments of the Creator- God Allah YHWH become violent and destroy those who are deadly against the believers who serve the purpose of life but the righteous are saved.

    [17:16] He who follows the right way follows it only for the good of his own soul: and he who goes astray, goes astray only to his own loss. And no bearer of burden shall bear the burden of another. We never punish until We have sent a Messenger.
    [17:17] And when We intend to destroy a township, We address Our commandment to its rebellious people, but they transgress therein; so the sentence of punishment becomes due against it, and We destroy it with utter destruction.
    [17:18] How many generations have We destroyed after Noah! And thy Lord suffices as the Knower and Seer of the sins of His servants.
    [17:19] Whoso desires the present life, We hasten for him therein what We will — for such of them as We please; then have We appointed Hell for him; he shall burn therein, condemned and rejected.
    [17:20] And whoso desires the Hereafter and strives for it as it should be striven for, and he is a believer — these are the ones whose striving shall find favour with God.

    http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … p;verse=15

    1. skipper112 profile image58
      skipper112posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      God ( CHRISTIAN) Allah ( MUSLIM) YHWH ( jewish) do you follow all 3 Gods Paar???

      Why cannot you answer any questions Paar??

      If asked a question you run away and start a new HUB , why do you do that?

      Answer this Question!!!!
      If the Quran says you can only have 1 to 4 wives, how can Mohammed have over 14 wives ???????DO NOT RUN AND HIDE just answer a SIMPLE question????

      If you cannot answer how can I belive ANYTHING YOU SAY!!!!!!

      After reading your statements please explain how your Allah is PEACEFULL???????

      1. profile image69
        paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        In ancient times when the means of communication were not so developed; peoples of the world in different regions due to the language difference could not communicate with one another. The Creator did communicate with all of them in their own languages for good understanding, guidance and convenience.

        ·         People therefore had different names in their own languages depicting the same Creator with almost the same attributes and the same message. I believe all such names as one person i.e., the Creator- God Allah YHWH Permatema Permeshar Bhagwan Ahura Mazda etc.

        ·         All the Revealed Religions are, therefore, truthful in their origin; all the Revealed Books are truthful in their origin; all the divine guides called Messengers Prophets are truthful in their origin.

        1. skipper112 profile image58
          skipper112posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          NO ANSWER PAAR
          How can Mohammed have over 14 wives and the Quran says 1 to 4 only????

          do you follow 3 Gods paar?

          can you answer any questions paar?

          why are you scared of questions paar?

          I have always belived Allah was a midle easten God NOT INDIAN.  EXPLAIN PAAR????

          can you answer PAAR???????

          rubish YHWH is JEWISH

          Mazda is a  CAR made in Japan

          Allah is Islam

          you can not answer how many Gods you follow. do you follow a Jewish God too as well as Christian God as well as Islamic God or do you worship a Mazda motor car from Japan!!!!!!

          paar I want a answer and will follow you around untill you have the 'GUTS' to answer ok

    2. skipper112 profile image58
      skipper112posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      you just babble usless words just answer question paar?

  5. Jerami profile image73
    Jeramiposted 6 years ago

    Is God a denominational God?

       Does God respect one person over another because of which of "MANS" traditions that they follow?

    1. skipper112 profile image58
      skipper112posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      never said that Jerami but good point.................
      God bless