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Do the "Amway" style churches bother you?

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    Baileybearposted 7 years ago

    The mega-churches with 10,000 followers, are all hype, promoting recruitment and fund-raising, with a charismatic leader that convinces the flock to give their life savings to the church?

    Examples:

    Casey & Wendy Treat, CFC, America
    Brian & Hannah Tamaki, Destiny Church, New Zealand
    Brian & Bobby Houston, Hillsong, Australia

    These churches started of as tiny AoG or Apostolic pentecostal churches - which inflated along with the egos and wealth of the leaders.

    1. pisean282311 profile image61
      pisean282311posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      are you surprised...most religions are based on charismatic leader promising something and asking people to contribute in form of time ,money or devotion...infact in Amway chances are earning money are more than falling for religion which promises something which can never be verified...

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      Baileybearposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      here's another one:  Eddie Long from America, with a current sexual scandal. 

      At least with Amway, you get some products to use.

      Eddie is mentor for Brian Tamaki; Casey for Brian Houston.

      Interesting that many of the senior leaders in these churches have had sex scandals

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        Baileybearposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  2. kess profile image62
    kessposted 7 years ago

    there is a system of thought which is very prevalent in this world, this is is described as worldly thinking
    This mindset focuses on riches, glory, and fellowship within a commubity while at the same time instilling fear.
    We see christianity as a part of this mindset. and it is easily seen because they have not deviated from the methods employ by those outside of their circle, even though these are the world in their way of thinking.

    Their error is that they have not understood the root cause of sin which is simply a state of double mindedness. Seeing somethings as good and some as evil..
    Thus by their doctrine they promote sin instead of providing the answer for it.

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      Baileybearposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      yes, fear is a big factor. And everyone pretending to be really happy all the time and pretending to be your best friend.

  3. donotfear profile image88
    donotfearposted 7 years ago

    Here we go again.....on & on.
    http://www.moonbattery.com/church_lady.jpg

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      Baileybearposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      is that a dig at me?

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    exorterposted 7 years ago

    you can not judge all Churches by what you hear in the news, the good ones you do not hear about

  5. CASE1WORKER profile image67
    CASE1WORKERposted 7 years ago

    yes, I agree..... I just assumed that those big churches tossed out pills with the communion wine
    much better our church where the vicar knows you by name and your kids and is part of our community

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      Baileybearposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I think that's what chuches should be about - genuinely caring, and offering support in times of difficulty, not trying to impress with scary freak-shows that depend on huge donations of money to "make god move"

      1. hanging out profile image56
        hanging outposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Too bad the only one who can be different is busy criticizing everything christian that moves. Its very easy to point the finger at others, but there are always 3 fingers pointing back at you.
        The amway churches, hillsong and whatever other churches do not bother me. I have prayed for God to send me to a church of HIS choice and i am fine and content in a place of 35-50 people who never mention tithes, who love and teach from a king james bible...
        God took care of me
        Others haven't asked him to take care of them.
        Oh the simplicity that is in christ jesus (when reversed like this it is referring to the risen savior, jesus christ refers to jesus on the earth   FYI)

  6. Disappearinghead profile image76
    Disappearingheadposted 7 years ago

    Mega churches = inflated entertainment centres that sell you merchandise. Impersonnal, loud, and irritating. Still I'm sure God loves them.

  7. Bill Manning profile image74
    Bill Manningposted 7 years ago

    I avoid all churches equally. smile

  8. Lisa HW profile image72
    Lisa HWposted 7 years ago

    I don't go to any church, but if I were to re-consider for some reason it would have to be one of a very few mainstream, local-community, churches that have been in existence for ages.

    1. Disappearinghead profile image76
      Disappearingheadposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I'd go along to one of those.....one day perhaps.

      1. CASE1WORKER profile image67
        CASE1WORKERposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        you'd be very welcome!

    2. CASE1WORKER profile image67
      CASE1WORKERposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      ours is only seven years old- please dont hold it against us- we live at the top of a steep hill and we started it so that the elderly who dont have cars dont have to walk up a steep hill

 
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