i heard that earth is created by god to test human beings to decide who should be sent to heaven. is that right?
if god is omniscient why he needs to test, doesn't he know it already?
again if it is a test then shouldn't everybody get a fare chance?
a child dead in the womb and and a man who lived to 100 years, a man bought up well educated and a man brought up in criminal society with no education- are all these people taking the same test?
(education and environment affects people and there thinking and their perception of right and wrong)
a man with genetic abnormality(like XYY)predisposing him to less intelligence and more crime, is getting any fare chance than a man with all his intellectual faculties?
In my opinion there is no test, everything lived on this earth is experience whether good or bad as most of us label them. We just learn from all these experiences and at the end we all transition back where we came from, simple I think but of course mankind makes things complicated by bringing the religion factor, good, evil, judgment, and I think all this was done just to control the masses. Of course it's only my opinion.
does that empower you...if yes nothing wrong in thinking that way...if not leave that way of thinking...no one knows for sure...god created earth is one of the theories and accepted by majority ...but there is not proof about it...we have been believing that way for long
According to every one Actions ( Karmas) of past and peresent they are getting brith, just do your best in every steps of life. God not testing to human beings,it is just a part of life or we can say it is one type of drama that all has to play on this world stage. Rest God comes to earth when there is not a single pure soul on earth and gives knowledge so that again new Golden world will come.
No the test is not tor humans....
The test is one of integrity for the sons of God...
That they may know exactly who they are that they mat walk in the fullness of that knowledge...
If a human cannot see himself as nothing more than a human then that is exactly what he is.....
If a human cannot see himself as nothing more than a human then that is exactly what he is.....
then what do you see yourself as? an angel walking on two legs?
dear god!!! you are a know it all. are you the alpha and omega??
but the wisdom you got, why are you not sharing?
What!!!! have you seenthe light?
knowing who I am means nothing unless you know who U are.
when you know who u are then will also know who I am.
but how can you know who you are, when all you do is hide yourself from Truth?
In plain straight forward wording you mean - if you don't believe in my BS you will not be able to see me because I am covered in BS ?
A man can only speak the thngs that are within Himself....
Ah this will be the reason you can only speak in riddles ?
A riddles must first comes from understanding....
or equally - because talking in riddles like a snake oil salesman avoids the need to actually admit there is nothing in the bottled medicine except tea.
That is the purpose for a riddle....
To whosoever have the understanding its no longer a riddle...
To whom its still a riddle they only accept the understanding that is already within themselves...
Now "whats within you" is the first and last question.
I would ask any believer exactly the same question.
A person should not be able to hide from a truth if the truth is obvious to anyone who observes it as it will present itself clearly and consistently to all observers and cannot be disputed or avoided.
You cannot hide from these truths. But, are they the truths you're looking for or are you seeking truths from which one is in fact able to hide? Those would be truths that are empty words accepted as a truth, and can only be accepted on faith alone.
I am as much a believer in the truths that are obvious, consistent and clear as much as anyone else, truths that none of us could avoid or deny, given all things equal.
I rarely if ever accept a truth based on empty words in which only my faith is required.
In that respect, I can begin to know myself as I begin to know the world around me.
But, if I cling to only the truths of faith, I can hide myself from the real world and never have the opportunity to know me.
If gods gave us brains, they surely wanted us to use them to know ourselves in order to prepare for an afterlife of our choosing and theirs.
I think this is where believers have it all wrong when they defend the contradictions of their gods properties and characteristics.
Gods are most likely very much like us and live their lives very much like any other sentient or intelligent being would; filled with curiosity.
Gods aren't all knowing and all powerful. We can clearly see that from observing nature. What gods really are is all learning, just like us. They love to create things, sit back and observe the results. They often don't know how one of their creations will turn out, but they learn as the creation evolves.
In essence, we are but a divine experiment running the course.
For believers, this perception of their god would answer a lot of questions and solve a lot of contradictions in their favor.
YES - some of the test dummies are called creationists, but their god forgot to put the batteries in the control box.
Anytime that we ask a question, IF we reject the truth, confusion follows.
The truth was rejected long, long ago.
From the Christian bible....
Our names have been written in the book of life sinse the the foundation of the earth.
God knew us before we were in the womb.
God created the earth for HIS pleasure.
To me this, seems to be the foundational reason for why we are here.
Sounds to me that this life on earth can be compared to a vacation at an amusement park ... and we choose which ride to ride.
When this life is over, we return to where we came from.
I don't think that we are being tested.
Maybe obstacles get in our way that prompt us to return to our intended path that we had previously chose for ourselves.
That is about as good as I can explane what I'm thinking.
God created the earth for HIS pleasure
do you know book, chapter, verse?
I do think we're tested, although not on a constant basis. Each and every one of us is tested according to our individuality.
Rev. 4:11 "... and for thy pleasure they are and were created."
That is intresting, I wonder if anything was meant by
"Are and Were?"
hmm, interesting. my Bible shows Rev. 5:12 and Col. 1:16 to be related somehow. They share the glory, honor, power lines.
Are & Were - I'm pretty sure must refer to the fact that Revelations is supposed to be prophetic. (John? had a dream of Heaven & such, and recorded it in Revelations, right?)
Sorry for the pause ........... I fell down and a sleep covered my eyes.
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That is intresting, I wonder if anything was meant by
"Are and Were?"
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I now think that this verse implies that all things "were" and still "are" being created for his pleasure. Maybe ?
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Rev. 5:12 and Col. 1:16 are talking about the same thing but phrased differently.
aah, interesting! all things were and stilla re being created...very interesting!!
So, when this world/galaxy/universe ends, another can take over? lol
Well, that would agree with the evolutionists. lol
I really hadn't given this much thought.
Kinda a thinking out loud kind of thing.
But that is what it seems to be implying though this could be one of thoe typographical glitches.
Wish I understood the origional language that this was translated from.
I have never known a child that did not test the limits upon which they were willing to attempt to exceed.
Maybe some of these tests that you speak of are
self imposed??
I don't believe we're being tested. We have choices to make, but I don't see it as a test, where everyone has to come to the same answers. And I believe you are right. People's circumstances are so varied it would be ridiculous to think we would all end up making the exact same decisions. It's just your individual journey. You take it as best you can. The right or wrong answer at any stage is unique to you.
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