Muslim states put off UN drive on defaming religion

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   pisean282311posted 14 years ago

   Muslim countries set aside their 12-year campaign to have religions protected from defamation, allowing the UN Human Rights Council to approve a plan to promote religious tolerance on Thursday.
   
   Western countries and their Latin American allies, strong opponents of the defamation concept, joined Muslim and African states in backing without vote the new approach that switches focus from protecting beliefs to protecting believers.
   
   Since 1998, the 57-nation Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) had won majority approval in the council and at the United Nations General Assembly for a series of resolutions on combating defamation of religion.
   
   Critics said the concept ran against international law and free speech, and left the way open for tough “blasphemy” laws like those in Pakistan which have been invoked this year by the killers of two moderate politicians in Pakistan.
   
   They argued that it also allowed states where one religion predominates to keep religious minorities under tight control or even leave them open to oppression.
   
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      Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'm all for that. We should be protecting people from the acts of others who would cause harm to them because of their religious affiliations and beliefs.
      
      We should not be protecting the beliefs themselves, but instead criticizing and questioning them, making sure we all understand that it is the beliefs that are the cause of the conflicts and the atrocities.
      
      

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   thirdmilleniumposted 14 years ago

   Muslim countries, except perhaps Indonesia where sadly, the seeds of hatred for other religions seem to have been sown, one and all, are peopled by a large number of people who are averse to have social interaction with people of other religions. The official position in many of these countries is blatantly against the others. Irrespective of what the Quran says, in everyday life, Muslims have only disdain for other faiths. They try to act friendly but scratch a Muslim a wee bit hard  and you have a fanatic on your hand. Moderation is no doubt practiced but even the moderation is only skin deep.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Christian countries, except perhaps Indonesia where sadly, the seeds of hatred for other religions seem to have been sown, one and all, are peopled by a large number of people who are averse to have social interaction with people of other religions.
      
      The official position in many of these countries is blatantly against the others. For example - it is illegal for an atheist to hold public office in the United States and the money says "In god we trust" on the side of the coins.
      
      Irrespective of what the Bible says, in everyday life, Christians have only disdain for other faiths, and especially for unbelievers, whom they consider fools.
      
      They try to act friendly but scratch a Christian a wee bit hard and you have a fanatic on your hand as demonstrated by numerous abortion clinic bombings and forced legislation against gay marriage. Moderation is no doubt practiced but even the moderation is only skin deep.
      
      The Muslims are just a few years behind you guys - eventually you will both be eductaed enough to drop the religious stuff - then we will have one less thing to fight over.
      
      Are we getting it yet?

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         just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hey Mark. I just got a new puppy. Reminds me a lot of you. No one can walk across the room without  dragging the little bugger along behind them. It won't let go of your pant leg. No matter what. Think you'll ever grow out of this?

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            Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            No _ I will continue to try to make the world a better place - regardless of how much that offends your Invisible Super Being. Sorry.
            
            Tell you what - you stop saying there is something called god that you can fathom and I cannot - and I stop telling you why this causes conflicts - deal?

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               just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I don't believe in an invisible super being mark. And I admit I'm clueless, but even before I accepted that I never thought I could fathom more. I only said I was trying to fathom more.

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  No - you did not. Glad you no longer think there is something called god. This makes you an atheist you realize.

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                     just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     I don't think so. I hate labels. They tend to cause unrealistic reactions in others. I prefer the term clueless. It seems more appropriate.

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                        Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        As you wish.

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                           just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Always.

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            aka-djposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Hahahaha. I love it!
            Just "shake a leg" and he's there!
            
            
            PS, he's so cute! (The puppy, I mean)!!

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               just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               That's not my puppy. I just love the picture. He looks so mad about life.

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            skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Oh irony.

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               just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               How so?

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                  skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  That coming from kristian who pretends to have tolerance and then makes sarcastic remarks on non-believers talks about "grow out of this" ? sounds ironic, isn't it ?

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                     just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     No. I would say that, since you don't know me, that would make your post intolerant. but that is simply an opinion.

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                        skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Intolerant ? Nah.

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                           just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Well, perhaps you are like me. Simply clueless.

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                              skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              XD

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                                 just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 I have no idea what that means.

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                                    skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                    That's emoticon or Smiley.

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                                       just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                       Woohoo. That means I learned my something new today. I guess the rest of the day can be a party.

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                                          aka-djposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                          Where at?

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                                             just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                             My house. Big barbecue. I always celebrate when I find out something new. Hop a plane and come on over.

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                                                aka-djposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                I'll call the flying kangaroo to hold the plane till I get there. lol.
                                                Please enjoy without me, this time!

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                                                   just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                   Ok. I'll tell everyone the last piece of pie is yours, and you said I could eat it.

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                                                      aka-djposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                      I will make it official.
                                                      You can have my piece of pie!
                                                      
                                                      Now there's an unselfish act, if I ever had one!

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                                                         just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                         Wow. Where's cagsil? He'll be so happy to see that. But no. You're a christian. I guess it won't count as selfless. He'd say your selfishness in your belief structure is deluding you into thinking it's selfless. You probably don't like pie anyway.

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            thirdmilleniumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Pray why? Mark livens up things. Interludes are desirable, don't you think?

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               aka-djposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Yeah. But you get tired of eating the same dry toast every meal!
               

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               just_curiousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Definitely, although it is nice when they settle down too. Variety is always good.

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   skyfireposted 14 years ago

   Let's bring medieval age back, any kristian wants to help ?

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   thirdmilleniumposted 14 years ago

   Trust Mark to leave his mark here, there, everywhere. Hello Mark

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hello Jerry.

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