Not existing is something you can illustrate. When I say there is nothing existing, my mind interprate this as space. So, spacelessness is a meaningless concept!
Otherwise illustrate for me the meaning!
Space shows the existence of all things united in perfect harmony.
We can and do relate to nothing...
Nothing is like a life that is vain, meaningless...
Like living a life stressing oneself to acquire riches and fame of it merely just to die and leave it for the enjoyment of others while you yourself remain without any of those things
Talk about meaningless....take this thread for instance.
Doing some spacefoolness again ?
What about meaniglessness ? Is it full of spaceness ?
It is not meaningless; when it conveys the meaning that a thing does not exist and the others understand it.
It is meaningful.
I checked with wikipedia; I found no such term. I checked with dictionary. com, it says:
spacelessness- no dictionary results
are you sure about meaningless??? I'd say it's pretty darn important.
the number 0 does not exist as anything and yet is vital to our understanding of the world.
Zero is a usefull concept and can represent space but just what is spacelessness itself. I know too much about zero and I never asked about zero.
well, you said you can imagine "nothing existing" which means you can imagine zero. which is also impossible to illustrate because there is no such thing as zero. there is always something. and when i did a google search for the definition of "spacelessness" (since i don't think i've ever seen the word used in context before) i was informed that the definition of spaceless is something along the lines of having no boundaries, or being without limits; ergo, spacelessness = the limitless quality of something. so it would be used to refer to an idea like god or the universe or imagination. it does not imply nothingness or "lack of space".
The concept of this is not nothingness of any kind - it is absence.
The Chinese nailed this a few thousand years ago in the Tao de Jing:
We put thirty spokes together and call it a wheel;
But it is on the space where there is nothing that the usefulness of the wheel depends.
We turn clay to make a vessel;
But it is on the space where there is nothing that the usefulness of the vessel depends.
We pierce doors and windows to make a house;
And it is on these spaces where there is nothing that the usefulness of the house depends
This says the same thing as the recently 'discovered' concepts of absence illuminatedby Derrida.
My reading of all of it could be summed up as -
nothing exists without the absence of itself that it fills and nothing means anything without the absences that make it what it is.
If you define spacelessnes as having no boundery as you did, I agree with you that it is a meaningfull concept lack of space? No!
I hope you don't mean that everything must have a boundery for it to exist.
I can illustrate 'not existing' as long as there is a specified domain to begine with. I will simply take you to an empty room and tell you; along the bounderies of this room, nothing (at least visible) exists i.e there is an empty space. I now tell you to imagine such a room being so big that its bounderies are infinite. But can somebody illustrate for me a situation where there is no space itself?
Spacelessness is something you have to experience yourself. No one can really explain it to you. I experienced total spacelessness when I went to see Nirvana in 1991 at this little club called The Moon in New Haven. I could smell all thirty of the guys next to me. Talk about spacelessness!!!
of course I can experience spacelessness but I do so in space
Upto to here I can agree with you that spacelessness do have a subjective meaning
what conveys the meaning that a thing does not exist is an empty space. Not spacelessness.
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