questions about Cain... after he killed his brother?

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   crystoliteposted 12 years ago

   I was wondering where Cain went to after killing Abel. Did he meet other human beings? Does that mean that Adam and Eve weren't the first people on earth?

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      Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      He became a Republican congressman from Virginia

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      Twenty One Daysposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Emmanuel,
      First, there are many 'maybes' regarding Cain.
      Take the information at hand. He went to dwell in the 'Land Of Nod' (the outer lands, wilderness --some historians suggest the North Africa, others West Asia). There is no specific record of the time frame from when he went, to the time he arrived --nor how the population had grown while they were a united family. So people saying 'well there were other folks on the planet',  disputing Adam/Eve as the first people makes no logical sense. According to some Hebrew historians, Adam/Eve lived in 'The Garden' a-thousand years, before 'The Fall'. Some say more.
      
      Now, I would wager, they had relations often, prior to the 'Fall' and after. Upon expulsion from the stasis of Heaven-Earth, Adam lived an additional 1,000 years. How many children could be produced in a mere 100 years? A thousand? Ten thousand?
      
      What many seem to forget, is the events mentioned did not happen one after another in a short span of time, they happened over years and in some cases decades or more.
      
      Why were the 'others' not mentioned? Perhaps the story that was meant to be illustrated as just that -a story of selfish murder- between two brothers that resulted in the division of family.
      
      The text is a literal-expressive, not an absolute end-all be-all.
      
      James.

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         crystoliteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         James, what you said made a lot of sense and i have never thought of it like that. My question has really been answered and i like how you explained it. Thanks

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            Twenty One Daysposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            My pleasure.
            A key to note in that paragraph is directly after the Cain event, is mentioned Cain's wife has a son named Enoch, who he named his first city after. We must ask: How long and how many people would it take to build even a small city.
            
            The following line mentions Lamech and his two wives. This is very interesting as one son is the founder of musicians, the other, the founder of technology. And Especially the mention of Naamah --who is called the mother of divination.
            
            After a short chronology, the story switches back to Adam/Eve and a new son Seth (also called anointed seed). Seth is historically important, as he was born when Adam was around 135 years old. Chronicles tells of this and that Adam fathered many sons & daughters up until he died, 930 years after Seth was born.
            
            Adam lived until just before or just after Noah was born.
            So, putting it in perspective, was nearly 1,000 years from Adam to Noah --and the Flood event. Counting population, we can say each man had one or two wives and at least 50-100 years worth of child bearing -- some more, some less. Perhaps as many as 2-4  Million people on the planet, just as Adam died. That fits the mold for the Flood scenario quite well...
            
            ...and more on that later today.
            James.

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      zampanoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      He went straight to see his lawyer
      

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   Beelzedadposted 12 years ago

   Cain dwelled in the Land of Nod after murdering Abel. He married and had descendants known as the Kenites.

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      crystoliteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Since he married, that basically means that his parents weren't the first people on earth.

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         Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Exactly, and it is one of the many contradictions that believers in the bible have yet to solve.

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            Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            that is just unfilled in information, not a contradiction...
            
            just like if you were to ask me in what round will Vancouver be eliminated from the playoffs.
            
            I don't know the answer, but it will happen

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               Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Ah, I get it now, that would be similar to the question of whether or not the Leafs will ever actually make the playoffs, again. Although the answer is unknown, so are their chances.

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                  Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  and that is where faith, backed by historical evidence, becomes important...
                  
                  

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                     Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     The Romans had their time ruling the world, as well. Where is that empire now?
                     
                     44 years ago, the Leaf empire began to crumble. And, now it's gone forever.

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                        Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        since you asked...
                        
                        

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                           Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Ah yes, I see it now. It looks like a little star accessory on a boot.
                           
                           A fitting end.

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                        zampanoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        The empire now is at the tips of Messi's feet.

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            Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You two clearly didn't read TOD's response above. There is no contradiction.

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               Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Sorry, but how does that response explain the contradiction?

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                  Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  there is no contradiction.

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                     Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     
                     
                     Okay, we'll just take your word for it.

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            IntimatEvolutionposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            As you might know- I'm not a NKJV bible thumper- with that said, there is a version of the Adam and Eve story that addresses many of the Genesis contradictions.  It is said to be a couple of thousand years older than the biblical version that we now have, and is believed to have been the real version of the Genesis story, and not the chopped up mainstream version.  It is the lost book titled,The Life of Adam and Eve also known as the, Apocalypse of Moses.
            
            The NKJV bible, too me at least, is the idiots version to Christianity.  Some might even say that you might be a redneck......

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               Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Who, me?

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         ngurecoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         He could as well have married his 'real' sister.

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            crystoliteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Honestly, i wonder......

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      Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly... and they settled down in Richmond

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         Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Richmond, BC?

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            crystoliteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Richmond? lol

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            Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Virgina...Cain became an American

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               Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Now, that's 'wandering'!

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   Onusonusposted 12 years ago

   He married his sister.

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      Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Or a cousin or distant niece perhaps.

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   habeeposted 12 years ago

   Adam and Eve could have been tribes or groups. If they truly were 2 individual humans, the Bible doesn't say that more weren't created. It just says they were the first. Personally, I think A and E are symbols for early man.

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      Uirikposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Then why were we all condemed because of their sins or do you want to tell me all coinsidently sinned?

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         Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         The Church says we are all condemed because of Adam and Eve's sin, but this is  Catholic tradition which is contrary to scripture.
         
         Each man is responsible for his own sin and only his own. If God created each one of us in our mother's womb, how can that created by God be anything other than pure and holy at birth?
         
         Before Cain killed his brother he had a conversation with God. God told him sin was crouching at the door but Cain must have mastery over that sin. Therefore if it is possible to have mastery over sin, then man is capable to choose to sin or not to sin. So original sin is a myth.,

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            paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Original sin is a myth; I agree with your above points.

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   Uirikposted 12 years ago

   I think atheists should also explain for us the origins of sexes.  What if a cow mutate into another species called a male kow. Coinsidently, another cow must also give birth to a female kow. It does this way for all species and the coinsidences are simply unbearable it looks like greatly far fetched!

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      sunchild28posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      um..........

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